Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[ExLight]

UP came in and proceeded to vomit non-content posts into the thread. And not in a pretty way.

he's not even halfway with the thread yet though?

 

[ExLight]

I just wanna let him play more than anything lol

 

[osieorb18]

uwu

If you continue to be cutesy about this stuff, I'mma seriously reconsider my long-abandoned policy of shadow-executing people who throw tantrums in the thread.

 

[osieorb18]

he's not even halfway with the thread yet though?

Not relevant to the point; he posted a bunch of spam.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

#HBC | Gorf #HBC | Gorf Can you summarise or quote your ExLight points to me again? What do you think of my points above? ^

pre claim, i had him as noobnull until mao came in and cased him, then i saw his readslist after that and, in short it felt kinda lazy and i didnt understand his progression of reads from what he had said prior. he needed to be guided into being active, and his reactions to votes a couple times were really odd, considering he didnt have the content to back up the bravado. hes very selective in what he chooses to answer when confronted about scummy things. if you want a more eloquent explanation i swear theyre in my posts before the claim (so probably around pg 8 - pg 14)

just before the claim, he postured onto swiss heavy. i thought that was a pretty bad look and he did help cause a situation where it was swiss v wiisp, but then wiisp claimed cop and broke that. it was something like 3 votes swiss 3 votes wiisp. i dont remember why off the top of my head but that pinged me when i saw him do that

then after the game, hes spent his time doing ****ing what? not scumhunting, just kinda spending his timelambasting anybody who isnt just up and accepting wiisp’s cop claim. ****in bet hes happy nobody brought up the fact that he threw s scumread onto me cuz i saw swiss’ point about how he reacted to the claim. he doesnt seem like he gives much of a **** about that anymore. and now hes probably gonna ride this train either till he replaces out or as long as he can, i dont even ****in know if hes replacing out anymore. betchu hell say he is even though hes been ****in posting up a storm

 

[Rhand]

Rhand please describe your incorrect understanding of the setup in full. like what all the open roles were. its hard to believe that you were wrong about the setup like this

Cop learns it target is town or not as Night action
Seer learns if a post contains a lie or not as day action

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

UP came in and proceeded to vomit non-content posts into the thread. And not in a pretty way.

i also get the feeling that a town!up wouldnt take the time to do this when replaced in without some sort of warning about when hell be able to catch up for real at least?

 

[ExLight]

If you continue to be cutesy about this stuff, I'mma seriously reconsider my long-abandoned policy of shadow-executing people who throw tantrums in the thread.

Sorry?? ùmú
I threw a tantrum because he was an asshole to player me whenever I tried to use anything to support my reasoning (which not only included anecdotal experience but of course he'd ignore it and dismiss it as if twas only that ùmú), I think it's fair to be frustrated when someone starts treating me like that when I was already fed up with being ignored throughout the game.
But if you mean me defending that a cop should counterclaim if Wiisp is lying and stuff like that then I don't really think twas a tantrum?

Catching up with the thread, just sat on PC
I see thread is considering Wam/FF and I'm fine with lynching them but I'd rather do FF and then Wam

 

[ExLight]

Not relevant to the point; he posted a bunch of spam.

sounds like uh Poy

 

[Chop Chop]

Vote Count

utopian (3) - wam, gellnick, eido
exlight (3) - mao, swiss, Gorf
Wam (2) - rhand, osie
swiss (1) - whysper
Not Voting (3) - scarlet, wiisp, utopian


With 14 alive it takes 8 to execute. Day 1 ends Sunday 8:00 pm PT.

 

[ExLight]

Cop learns it target is town or not as Night action
Seer learns if a post contains a lie or not as day action

No!!
Cop checks for Mafia faction, Seer checks for Werewolf faction

 

[ExLight]

What’s the difference between Cop and Seer here? Does Cop check for mafia and Seer check for werewolves?

Also, sure, in.

Yep, that’s the difference.

from me asking in the signup thread

 

[ExLight]

and he did help cause a situation where it was swiss v wiisp

Swiss was literally hounding Wiisp and asking for them to claim??

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Cop learns it target is town or not as Night action
Seer learns if a post contains a lie or not as day action

im gonna keep my thoughts to myself for now but i do think this deserves way more attention than anybody given it. ill wait for wiisp to tell me his thoughts

 

[ExLight]

i do think this deserves way more attention than anybody given it

in which way

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Swiss was literally hounding Wiisp and asking for them to claim??

exlight also pretends that counterpoints to points he has made dont exist if the counterpoints are good

i have a hard enough time believing that wiisp rhand and gellnick may have thought swiss was serious about rolefishing, i very much do not believe you thought that swiss was rolefishing

 

[ExLight]

like do you think this is like pretending to be feigning town ignorance because scum would obviously know the difference or do you think this is legit

exlight also pretends that counterpoints to points he has made dont exist if the counterpoints are good

why do you not speak to me directly
are you afraid to lose to my elaborate and extravagant speech skillz

 

[gellnick]

gellnick G2H, can you as quickly as possible give me 30-word-plus reads on each other player with the letter "i" in the username?

Uh, ok
Wiisp: Claimed cop. I'm still wary because I've been in games where powerful PR's have been claimed (notably, one game where scum claimed Acop and then proceeded to use it to waste 2 of Town's days thanks to a pardoner ability) and it's gone really well for scum. Post #93 makes me almost certain they're not traitor, even if their claim is false. Townread for now.
Osieorb: Replaced 3DSNinja. Some random stuff for the first few posts (Gorf, why is all your text green?) Other than that, pretty solid reasoning for everything, I'd say Townread.
Swiss: I really don't like their early attack on Rhand. Looking back on their posts, I really don't like Post #234 - It seems like they know something the rest of us don't? I could totally be misreading that though. I do like his constant read lists though, he's slowly been getting less scummier as the game goes on. Post #639 seems somewhat odd to me, either sarcasm from town or pseudo-sarcasm from scum. Either way, no one take his advice on this until there's a reason to do so. Scumread.
Have to go now, I'll do Exlight and Utopian later.

 

[ExLight]

thought swiss was serious about rolefishing, i very much do not believe you thought that swiss was rolefishing

he literally said face dead serious "yes I want you to claim" when wiisp asked if he was serious about claims

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

in which way

in the way of do i believe this dude actually had those thoughts, and what bearing does that have on what i think his alignment is

 

[ExLight]

wiisp hinted they wanted to claim because they were uncomfortable with their wagon and swiss himself said he noticed that wiisp was hinting a power role, so I don't get why you're licking his boot and defending him without him asking just to say he didn't do stuff he clearly did

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

he literally said face dead serious "yes I want you to claim" when wiisp asked if he was serious about claims

dawg we had this back and forth already. i dont believe that you think he wanted wiisp to claim like 3 pages into the game. i can believe that you might think thats a good enough read to fake as scum though, especially since you posted that in hindsight

 

[ExLight]

in the way of do i believe this dude actually had those thoughts, and what bearing does that have on what i think his alignment is

if he really believed those I find really hard for him to be scum unless his partner was inactive or is completely inexperienced because he'd probably mention his fear of a lie detector and the scumbud would go like wtf dude if they had paid any attention to the game

Rhand when you were being discussed as the main wagon, if you believed the seer was something like this you'd've clearly let a message that could clear you in hopes they'd check that, right? Is there such a thing?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

like are you really gonna make me go back and explain in thorough, excruciating detail about why i think youre full of **** when you say that you think swiss seriously wanted wiisp to claim after wiisp made that dumb post about being bullied

 

[ExLight]

dawg we had this back and forth already. i dont believe that you think he wanted wiisp to claim like 3 pages into the game. i can believe that you might think thats a good enough read to fake as scum though, especially since you posted that in hindsight

twas in page 6 but ok umu
and why not

like are you really gonna make me go back and explain in thorough, excruciating detail about why i think youre full of **** when you say that you think swiss seriously wanted wiisp to claim after wiisp made that dumb post about being bullied

I think I will, because I'm not bull****ting anyone so something in your logic is clearly wrong?

 

[ExLight]

Like I get thinking I'm wrong, then issue is on me; but thinking I'm full on bull**** is issue on you. lol
Scum can hound and pressure for claims early in the game and some people here been saying this is NAI for him, so I don't know why you're taking it as a town flag.

 

[Wiisp]

Wiisp do you believe rhand thought that our open multiball setup was cop, oracle

Rhand please describe your incorrect understanding of the setup in full. like what all the open roles were. its hard to believe that you were wrong about the setup like this



i do feel you on that, and i dont imagine id be voting him out if i didnt think he was scum.

I'd buy it, since werewolves have never existed in MTGS from much of my experience there, this is probably the second time I've seen an actual werewolf faction outside the ToL game I played. I only know what a seer is because I read up on a lot of roles, and I think it exists in town of salem

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

twas in page 6 but ok umu
and why not


I think I will, because I'm not bull****ting anyone so something in your logic is clearly wrong?

because at least i think its obvious hes saying that there to be an asshole. i think hed make it more obvious that he wants someone to claim if he wants someone to claim. hes talking ****. just like him saying eido isnt vt, just like him calling himself ww.

Like I get thinking I'm wrong, then issue is on me; but thinking I'm full on bull**** is issue on you. lol
Scum can hound and pressure for claims early in the game and some people here been saying this is NAI for him, so I don't know why you're taking it as a town flag.

it is nai for him what are you talking about

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'd buy it, since werewolves have never existed in MTGS from much of my experience there, this is probably the second time I've seen an actual werewolf faction outside the ToL game I played. I only know what a seer is because I read up on a lot of roles, and I think it exists in town of salem

do you imagine that hed pull this sort of a gambit as scum? because i imagine he REALLY ensures that he knows what the pr’s do as scum, and that if hes serious, he would have this sort of thought/dialogue in his scumchat

do you think this string of posts is nai? if you dont, whats your read on it?

 

[osieorb18]

Cop learns it target is town or not as Night action
Seer learns if a post contains a lie or not as day action

Funny enough, my version is:

(Alignment) Cop learns a target's alignment.
Seer learns a random target's alignment on Night 0.

And then I remember who the host is and am like "Oh yeah" ...

Cop learns if a target is a Mafia.
Seer learns if a target is a Werewolf.
Bloodhound learns if a target is a Town.
Alignment Cop isn't a role that exists because derp.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

wow seeing my text as white is trippy

 

[ExLight]

those are kinda funny interpretations, I think I figured what he meant with those roles right of the bat

see, nothing wrong in people making wrong assumptions based on their experience FF :excuseme:

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I have had the same stand for a while: Scum!Swiss, Scum!Wam, and Town!Rhand.
I can't see a scum thinking the way Rhand does, and Wam and Swiss have both made some comments that I find way off. Call it a gut feel, but I've won on my gut before.
I'm perfectly happy with a Swiss or Wam elimination right now.
I'm going through their posts to find the comments that I really don't like.

i would be a hypocrite to not give you **** again about your incredibly lackluster quantity of non null reads. you have less than wiisp

Don't really see why my playstyle should change now that I claimed, especially given that most people are still talking about me. I already stated my playstyle I think? I'm not a town leader those Wisp days are done unless I am super confident in my reads, or there needs to be one. Because one when I do, I become an ass, and two my reads start spiral out of control. I'm doing exactly what I think needs to be done, and that is to make sure people's reads make sense, and the current trains have a possibility of being a wolf.

And I have people literally ignoring my thoughts. When I stated everything at the beginning was NAI for Rhand, I got attacked. When I say I think people's interpretations of Chaco replacement are wrong, I get attacked, when Exlight explains his viewpoints on voting claiming known PRs, he gets attacked. This may just be town cannabalism, but who knows. I think Wam and Swiss are the only two that I have personally noticed that have had some kind of contradiction and weirdness with there plays. Whysper might be frozen scum. Chaco may be the traitor, and I slightly agree with Frozen's thoughts on UP on a way, but also not really? Like how people play when they replace in depends a lot on their playstyle.
So like idk on that slot. Game is still kinda hard. Haven't been much of a fan of gellnicka poppins, but I'm kinda trusting Rhand here?

this is a good post

I have enough energy to keep the tab open and follow along every now and then so I won't fall behind

i know its wifom but seeing this makes me wonder whether scum!mao would even admit this if she intends to lurk (she seems to have, and shes in a time zone where shes likely close to sleeping at 2:15 est)

gellnick G2H, can you as quickly as possible give me 30-word-plus reads on each other player with the letter "i" in the username?

its a shame this wasnt answered

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i like ffs new wall

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

town
(13)Gorf
(4)Scarlet Rage
(12)Eido
(14)Detective Mao

town enough
(6)Swiss
(1) Osie
(9)FrozenFlame

straight null
(8)rhand

can die
(5)Wam
(3)gellnick
(11)Whysper
(10)UP
(2) ExLight

cop claim
(7)Wiisp

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

also, this is majority lynch so we gotta hurry and make a lynch happen

 

[osieorb18]

#HBC | Gorf CFD to Wam or to Whysper?

 

[Detective Mao]

Okay, it took longer than expected to get everything out of the way.

Sorry to disappoint you Osie, but this is a low-effort game for me and I never planned to push myself as I have to focus on school among other things
I realize I have a lot of things I haven't talked about in this thread. I've skimmed over multiple people many times, but I've only really focused on a few people, really. I'll do my best to actually interact with people from here on, but right now I'm going to prioritize my health and go to sleep.

Unvote
Vote: UtopianPoyzin

I originally didn't think Chaco was scummy enough to deserve all the pressure they got, but Utopian's posts so far have been.. straight up awful and awkward. There's been a lot of conflict around ExLight, and I feel like this is a safer choice at this point. Please, please, please check ExLight during the night. The people I'm fine with dying right now are ExLight/Utopian/Whysper. We'll have to see how tomorrow will turn out regarding Wiisp.

Good night.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

wam

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i mean yes to both but if i had to choose wam