alright so coming back to this with a bit of a cooler head as much as I'm not sold that this isn't a turbo all in from scum!wiisp on the cop claim, I definitely was less willing to believe his claim to be legit because of my frustration with him constantly mischaracterizing my posts and acting like he runs the show. I just really really did not want to reward scum!wiisp and let him use a claim under 48 hours from deadline to hijack the wheel and strongarm us into just playing follow the cop i.e. follow him before he even has a claimed result
what strikes me here is what wiisp has done SINCE the claim. he has been content to simply ride on the claim and has not done much of anything to refocus pressure onto another slot or leverage his claim derived "town cred" to take a lead in the discourse. this to me does not match up with scum!wiisp fake claiming. If he was going to do an all in like that, he would want a lot more bang for his buck given he is not a timid player. for him to just fade into the background with this "well I'm town cop so lol y'all are wrong screw your ****ty reads" and then essentially just coast reads more like a legit town cop who is rest on his "haha you're wrong about me I told you so" haunches and acting like he's done his job, a hallmark of town players who care more about being "right" then actually helping the town win. and wiisp as a player fits that profile 100% to me, playing to gratify himself at all times, not actually help the team win. which is anti-town af, but in this case I think it's just genuine, though selfish, townie play
it's a bit WIFOM here, because if I was right about rhand/wiisp being mates they may have mutually decided to chill on the open buddying if I spooked them for calling them on it (this literally happened a game or two ago when I literally called out Kary and Darkhorse open buddying in the early game as mates) but again I go back to the fact that these two haven't really done anything with wiisps claim to grab leadership which doesn't line up with a coordinated scum all in to me
Utopian's entrance is really bad, I hate "lol guys look how lazy and bad and uninformed I am here's my troll takes" entries because they are literally entirely filler and performative. what is the point of making uninformed posts and bait ** like "lol I'll just vote for whoever has the most votes look how anti-town I am teehee" like it's literally just the other side of the LAMIST coin (look at me I'm so blatantly anti-town I can't be anti-town!) and UP is a better player than that. I know replacing in to a 25+ page D1 is daunting but still like that ** is just filler WIFOM bull** and people giving him towncred for that "uwu lulz" ** is a bad look. Chaco pinged townish for me early and he seemed to have a negative reaction to that, which I can understand because I did recently snow town!chaco, but UP's contributions so far have only made the slot look worse. and like come the ** on, why are you dropping votes less than 24 hours to deadline when you're on page 6 of a 26 page game? that's just straight up irresponsible, you trying to have another ***show like when trisscar randomly double vote hammered in APEX mafia because she wasn't paying attention? like pulling this * is asking for it
Wam's relative absence until just now was really starting to bother me, was expecting to hear more from the slot and I'm getting heavy wait and see/coaster vibes from the slot
we still have literally nothing meaningful from whysper and many people have mentioned that it might be "frozen scum" in that slot. is this a meta thing? do we know if whysper generally struggles as anti town or is timid in high pressure roles?
SR also comes off as an unremarkable slot but I do think the kneejerk pseudo CC is town indicative
I'm also not sure if gellnick has actually taken a hard stance all game?
still doing a full re-read, should be around for the likely firedrill that will be
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