Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[osieorb18]

Wiisp -

why can’t you just quote or hyperlink the message by copying the number, it’s so hard too keep going back and forth :aaaaAAAA:

Two windows?

 

[ExLight]

#865 Exlight...why would the WW ever kill the cop, who can't find them and can only help them?

I think I meant investigative roles in general in that one if it’s the message I’m thinking

I’d be down for chaco since SR is on my towncleareds now and I felt like they weren’t same alignment

 

[osieorb18]

Probably town? Your stream of consciousness feels good

Hmm okay. Not as much confidence as I anticipated.

 

[ExLight]

Wiisp -

Two windows?

hi what

 

[Swiss]

Swiss why are you saying that the cop can’t find werewolves?

Rhand what did you think the Seer was?

I think this is scum playing dumb.

Is anyone else in this game not aware of the Seer/Cop to WW/Mafia relationship?

 

[osieorb18]

I’m literally asking to be lynched and waiting for it though? saves the host the headache for finding sub wink wink

BLERGH

 

[Detective Mao]

Rhand what did you think the Seer was?

I think this is scum playing dumb.

Is anyone else in this game not aware of the Seer/Cop to WW/Mafia relationship?

Wasn't it explained in sign ups?

 

[ExLight]

BLERGH

lmao sorry I know it’s usually a bad thing

 

[Swiss]

It was.

I will admit however I didn't realise Indy could be dead and still win.

 

[ExLight]

Wasn't it explained in sign ups?

the host clarified in the sign ups when I asked about it yea

 

[ExLight]

I will admit however I didn't realise Indy could be dead and still win.

SEE I KNEW IT WAS A FAIR INTERPRETATION
AND FF TALKING **** TO ME LIKE I WAS SOME KIND OF HALF BRAINED AMOEBA

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I mean make a solid read on what? I think a lot of you are failing to see how two separate factions change the dynamic of the game heavily
I can make assumptions or I can be right, right now all I have are assumptions

you are so quick to call people **** for reading xyz a certain way. at least they’re making reads. you flat out told me you didn’t have an interest in reading exlight in spite of him having become one of the most popular wagons cuz you didn’t wanna bother making a read on him. youre saying people who have voices have wrong reads, what do you mean on you? you have been pretty openly wolfing regardless of alignment. I don’t mean this as shade cuz I actually have enjoyed playing with you, I like seeing people who are arrogant. Swiss and ff are arrogant. **** rhand and I are pretty arrogant too, albeit less so imo. But you give so much **** to Swiss and ff for being brash and, trust me, you’re doing the same thing except you’re being more hypocritical about it.

half you are still debating voting a PR that is literally open, and you have been wrong on me all game, and maybe even wrong on Rhand, I haven't gotten there yet. so like am I supposed to be like, good job or something? like I really don't know how you guys want me to respond.

you were the favorite for lynch until you claimed, and you wouldn’t be the first scum in history to fake claim an open role if you are scum. to at least four people, your play is so scummy that they are seriously thinking about the validity of your play thus far and whether they should believe you or try lynching so that, if you’re lying, we can preserve our cop. two/three of them have said on more than one occasion that you’re not the play toDay. Do you really think you’re still a lynch candidate?

if frozen, Swiss, mao or myself didn’t have anything else to provide on top of that, I’d be like yo what are these guys doing? But they do. If we were doing it your way we’d be ****ed and not really have any other lynch option cuz apparently on mtgs it’s kosher to have 3/13 reads on D1

 

[ExLight]

nice new pfp swiss

 

[Swiss]

Dog, football, mafia, gf - in that order.

I'll be skimming thread but life is in the way now.

 

[Wiisp]

Hmm okay. Not as much confidence as I anticipated.

Why? What exactly should make me go, "Wow Osie is so town here"

I do think you coming into the game and being wary of Mao, gives the same vibes you got in the ToL games on regards to a certain someone? I can't remember who, who was just being locked as town and ignored and you didn't understand why

 

[gellnick]

1. Nice new pfp Swiss.
2. I'm not entirely sure Utopian/Chaco is scum, this looks to me like TWTBW. I know I've played that game before, it's fun.
3.

you were the favorite for lynch until you claimed, and you wouldn’t be the first scum in history to fake claim an open role if you are scum. to at least four people, your play is so scummy that they are seriously thinking about the validity of your play thus far and whether they should believe you or try lynching so that, if you’re lying, we can preserve our cop. two/three of them have said on more than one occasion that you’re not the play toDay. Do you really think you’re still a lynch candidate?

Reminds me of the time that my forum decided that eliminating a claimed Role Cop D1 was the best move. It was not.

 

[Wiisp]

And I still have no idea why I was a favorite for executed or how swiss ended up being the big train next to mine lol

Anyways just clocked in and I forgot to charge my phone, so bye again

 

[Eido]

Er I have made a mistake on Cop. I thought Cop was Cop and found whoever's bad.

So if Wiisp is telling the truth about his claim, Mafia is incentivised to kill him, Werewolves are incentivised to defend him. That's how I think Scum behaviour would play out in the last 8 pages then. I'm gonna have to reread all this

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Personally, if we are talking about reactions to pressure, I like Exlights way more than I like Chaco's, and if exlight is a wolf, you created this scenario where he could do this

1 i can respect this cuz I think they both reacted bad, no way it’s “way” better though.

2 I have never seen exlight play and trust me, I’ll be having some choice words about how much I think his reaction/play yesterday was super inappropriate regardless of alignment. But that’s a convo for later. I don’t think yours, rhands, Swiss’ or ff’s play has been inappropriate (maybe ff yesterday to a degree) in the same way at all

 

[osieorb18]

hi what

If not on mobile

Why? What exactly should make me go, "Wow Osie is so town here"

I do think you coming into the game and being wary of Mao, gives the same vibes you got in the ToL games on regards to a certain someone? I can't remember who, who was just being locked as town and ignored and you didn't understand why

Nah, just I figured you might have confidence one way or the other.

 

[osieorb18]

lmao sorry I know it’s usually a bad thing

Why do I get newb town vibes from you every single game I play with you?

 

[Rhand]

Rhand what did you think the Seer was?

I think this is scum playing dumb.

Is anyone else in this game not aware of the Seer/Cop to WW/Mafia relationship?

I thought it was an oracle.
I looked it up now, I never saw the role.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

note to future gorf, check that interaction to see if rhand really just spewed town or if it’s ambiguous enough for him to have finessed that as scum

 

[ExLight]

Why do I get newb town vibes from you every single game I play with you?

funny enough I said earlier in the game I’m an eternal noob town to some people

 

[Eido]

And I still have no idea why I was a favorite for executed or how swiss ended up being the big train next to mine lol

Have you thought about how Mafia and Werewolves would have reacted to your claim?

 

[Rhand]

Does that mean that Scarlet’s role would also see different alignments if she targets mafia and then werewolf?
in my brain all of them (including the traitor) were just “bad” and would show up on results like that.

 

[Chop Chop]

Missed that.

Still Chop Chop

Does night kill in the above mean every night?

It’s a Normal Factional Kill. For Both.

 

[ExLight]

Does that mean that Scarlet’s role would also see different alignments if she targets mafia and then werewolf?
in my brain all of them (including the traitor) were just “bad” and would show up on results like that.

she gets “same alignment” and “different alignment” as results probably

 

[ExLight]

so mafia and then werewolf would probably give “different alignments as result”

I wonder how that interacts with traitor though

 

[Chop Chop]

Vote Count

utopian (3) - osie, Gorf, wam
whysp (2) - rhand, eido
swiss (2) - gellnick, whysper
exlight (2) - mao, swiss
rhand (1) - frozen
Not Voting (3) - utopian, scarlet, wiisp

With 14 alive it takes 8 to execute. Day 1 ends Sunday 8:00 pm PT.

 

[Rhand]

she gets “same alignment” and “different alignment” as results probably

Yeh but I was assuming mafia, werewolf and traitor is all “same alignment” but it probably isn’t

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

id be shocked if maf and ww are same alignment
i wouldnt be shocked if traitor and either are same OR different alignment, but judging by the modding thus far its likely intentionally ambiguous

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

unvote

vote: exlight

 

[ExLight]

Yeh but I was assuming mafia, werewolf and traitor is all “same alignment” but it probably isn’t

they probably aren’t yea

unvote

vote: exlight

harder daddy

Vote Count

utopian (3) - osie, Gorf, wam
whysp (2) - rhand, eido
swiss (2) - gellnick, whysper
exlight (2) - mao, swiss
rhand (1) - frozen
Not Voting (3) - utopian, scarlet, wiisp

With 14 alive it takes 8 to execute. Day 1 ends Sunday 8:00 pm PT.

where am I in the votecount

 

[osieorb18]

#HBC | Gorf Gimme a sec to actually ISO dive them, but I'm like 70% on ExLight being town who is throwing a tantrum.

 

[ExLight]

#HBC | Gorf Gimme a sec to actually ISO dive them, but I'm like 70% on ExLight being town who is throwing a tantrum.

oh he definitely knows I’m town

 

[osieorb18]

#HBC | Gorf Swiss Yeah, I'm at like 85% sure now and I'm not rewarding that behaviour. They can replace out if they don't want to play. Rewarding throwing by voting them out sets a bad precedent.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Vote: Wiisp

Need some time to gather my thoughts

 

[osieorb18]

... Poyzin voting for the un-cc'd cop.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i think its genuine frustration and bull**** hysterics. his self voting and woe is me stopped when the % of active people yesterday scumreadimg him declined, and only ramped back up when people called it townie