Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[ExLight]

I’ll make sure to print it and glue as a poster on my wall

 

[ExLight]

I was actually making a poster with prints of the post just to meme but I ran out of tape :rinsad:

 

[Wiisp]

so my 3 hour raid time turn into 20 mins easy wipe
so ya, im going to reread the game and see what happens

 

[Wiisp]

Swiss
What's your current read on Eido?

 

[osieorb18]

if you can remember, up to what page of reading had you done when you asked this?

First few pages.

 

[osieorb18]

Man, I go to sleep and then wake up to 8 more pages... Still readable, I suppose.

 

[osieorb18]

Whysper - In all seriousness, I've been designing traditional games as a hobby for about 12 years, played IRL mafia on and off in that time among other games, and then started playing forum mafia at the beginning of 2017.

 

[Chop Chop]

UtopianPoyzin has Replaced Chaco

 

[Chop Chop]

Ohh perfect I will be around for EoD despite my long shifts today and tomorrow

About This exact time Sunday.

 

[Chop Chop]

Ohh perfect I will be around for EoD despite my long shifts today and tomorrow

About this exact time tomorrow.

 

[Chop Chop]

I may not be here at EoD so warning any votes after EoD don’t count.

 

[osieorb18]

UtopianPoyzin - How do you like replacing into a scum slot?

#HBC | Gorf - This may change, but as of page 5, I'm no longer scumleaning you. I do think that your Rhand read is 99% playstyle/culture clash though. Could you talk to me in detail about Swiss and Chaco slots?

 

[osieorb18]

Haven't sorted ExLight, gellnick, or Whysper yet, but as of page 6 I'm down with Chaco/Mao/Wam for elimination toDay, with a side of FF/Swiss. Swiss has been glacially crawling up the readlist though.

 

[osieorb18]

Man, I need more on Mao; they just aren't even there at the point I'm at. I guess we get at least 5 players of PoE so it's actually not too bad. 5 player PoE... Oh yeah, I remember who is the host.

 

[ExLight]

Oh yeah, I remember who is the host.

have you played with them before?

 

[osieorb18]

have you played with them before?

Yeah played, reviewed, hosted, spectated.

 

[osieorb18]

ExLight - While I have you here, can you explain whatever happened over the past half dozen pages as neutrally as you are able?

 

[Chop Chop]

Yeah played, reviewed, hosted, spectated.

Clean Sweeped as Mafia Duo Buds.

 

[Wiisp]

Out of game post

Skimmed as was too interested not too. Saw too much anger

Alignments side - everything else aside - let’s all remember this is a game and done For fun and the enjoyment of musing over things.

Im sorry for any part I played in making this game turn more aggressive.

Exlight don’t replace.

Im deliberately contentious, sensationalist and dismissive sometimes because I feel it can help progress the game. But I feel the way I started this game set a precedent- especially for people who don’t know what it’s like to play with me.

So let’s all take a cool shower (not together).

content tomorrow

just got back to this, you don't really get to keep saying your ignoring my posts
and then be like, "I am sorry if I played a part in this"
but that is neither here or there anymore

think I will just end my vote on Wam given their earlier post that bothered me
or you for obvious reasons
Whysper can easily be frozen scum, but there is just very little to go off of, but if people want to vote that, I'm fine with it

 

[gellnick]

Man, I need more on Mao; they just aren't even there at the point I'm at. I guess we get at least 5 players of PoE so it's actually not too bad. 5 player PoE... Oh yeah, I remember who is the host.

I'm getting more or less Town vibes from them atm, can you explain your POV?
And to those of you who are gonna complain about me not having Mao as a townread: I was concentrating on the people I felt were most important to deal with.
If there's someone you want me to look at, I'll happily do that.

 

[gellnick]

Also, what's the current vote count? Chop Chop

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Unvote


Gn

 

[Wiisp]

gellnick
What's your read on Wam? Also my problem for you pretty much stem from your overall tone which feels completely disconnected from the general atmosphere of this game.

 

[osieorb18]

I'm getting more or less Town vibes from them atm, can you explain your POV?
And to those of you who are gonna complain about me not having Mao as a townread: I was concentrating on the people I felt were most important to deal with.
If there's someone you want me to look at, I'll happily do that.

All I've seen so far from them is disingenuous #94 followed by all-over-the-place thread handling, and then some fearmongering later on. They then say that they'll explain their thoughts later, which if particularly solid I look forward to seeing, but it hasn't happened yet.

 

[osieorb18]

Clean Sweeped as Mafia Duo Buds.

I normally wouldn't post this in the thread, but...

OoG PSA: Hosting is like table service. Being present when you are needed is important. Be there for votecounts, for questions directed at you, for replacements, for phase changes, for mechanical reasons. Being involved in someone's dinner conversation is obnoxious. If the game is going smoothly, the host shouldn't be posting. This is not the first instance I've seen of a host jumping into the thread when it's unnecessary for them to do so, and I anticipate it won't be the last, but it shouldn't happen.

/endrant

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

UtopianPoyzin UtopianPoyzin - How do you like replacing into a scum slot?

You tell me

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

I have nothing else to add rn

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

Alright that’s my window for accepting questions for the night

Vote: Player X

where Player X is the person who has the most votes at the time of writing this post.

If there is a tie don’t worry about it I’ll stay unvoted

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

That’s enough content to chew on for my slot, my work here is done (for now)

 

[osieorb18]

Vote: UtopianPoyzin

I have yet to move Chaco out of being one of my strongest scumreads and Poyzin's content this game is in some ways worse.

 

[gellnick]

gellnick
What's your read on Wam? Also my problem for you pretty much stem from your overall tone which feels completely disconnected from the general atmosphere of this game.

Second scumread. I'm gonna look through their posts again tomorrow, will come back with details then. Post #347 should have some details.
I wouldn't mind a Wam or Swiss elim rn tbh.

And yes, I have been rather disconnected from the game. Long story short, personal stuff was somewhat complicated.

 

[osieorb18]

Wiisp - I need some RTI from you or I'll policy tunnel you. (I kid, I kid.) In all seriousness, though, where's your head at?

 

[Xivii]

Vote Count 1.3

exlight (3) - exlight, mao, gorf
swiss (2) - gellnick, whysper
whysp (2) - rhand, eido
wiisp - (1) swiss
rhand (1) - frozen
gellnick (1) - wam
utopian (1) - osie


Not Voting (3) - utopian, scarlet, wiisp

With 14 alive it takes 8 to execute. Day 1 ends Sunday 8:00 pm PT.

Spoiler: Voting History

scar #wam
gel #swi
rha #wii
fro #rha
mao #rha
swi #rha
eid #cha
gor #rha
rha #swi
eid #why
cha #exl
exl #mao
gel #unv
sca #cha
vc0
eid #gel
wii #fro
swi #cha
wam #rha
wam #wii
wam #rha
vc1
rha #wam
mao #wii
swi #wii
sca #wam
exl #unv
cha #unv
vc2
wii #unv
gel #swi
mao #exl
gor #exl
why #swi
wam #unv
swi #wii
exl #swi
wii #swi
wam #gel
rha #swi
sca #wii
sca #unv
exl #exl
wii #unv
wii #fro
wii #unv
rha #wam
rha #why
eid #why
nin = osi
cha = uto
uto #unv
osi #uto
vc3

Note:

• Scarlet has yet to add the avatar I provided her. This is disheartening.
• Chill with the insults and aggression. If used for a strategic purpose, find an alternative method.
• I watched Weathering With You the other day and it's been on my mind since. Shinkai's best film yet in my opinion. Here is some music.
  
  

 

[Swiss]

Coffee, walk dog, full English, hot takes

in that order
#899 I was always reading your posts - I just wanted to goad you. I’m going to chalk some of this up to different backgrounds but a player of your experience not able to distinguish this...
Anyway I’m dropping the persona - works best d1 anyway. Shame as it’s very fun.

#884 Eido was and still is town. He’s the one that stopped your bandwagon when it looked like I might still get my lynch on you. Scum don’t do that - even teammates don’t do that.

 

[ExLight]

ExLight - While I have you here, can you explain whatever happened over the past half dozen pages as neutrally as you are able?

uh I made a tl;dr for Mao at somepoint lemme grab it

 

[ExLight]

Wiisp claimed cop, swiss still wants to lynch them, SR for no reason claimed he’s some sort of parity cop, and I wanna die

after that I got into a fight with FF and asked to sub out

think that was it

 

[ExLight]

wiisp - (2) swiss, exlight

I never voted wiisp, wtf

 

[ExLight]

Unvote

was that correct? did someone mess
with my vote?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Skimmed, osie can be town for now

unvote

vote: poyzin

I’ll be here closer to eod but i gotta play for church. My calculations tell me this is overall best lynch: scummy, plenty of content to read/make connections, seemingly reasonable thread support to push the lynch. can easily be persuaded on exlight, gellnick, and whysper too

 

[Swiss]

christ this is going to take forever

old
Osie
ExLight -- lynchable
gellnick null-
Scarlet Rage null+
Wam no idea
Swiss werewolf
Wiisp indy/scum lynchable
Rhand - null
FrozenFlame null+
Chaco no idea
Whysper lynchable
Eido - not vanilla town +
Gorf town
Detective Mao - town +

#538 important remember this

#540 Whysper
weak content " Anyway, my overall impression of Swiss is an experienced wolf taking an aggressive town stance and blatantly pocketing people in hopes of keeping them on his side" - offers no reasoning as to why this is an alignment tell. Offers nothing of substance about the person being pocketed. Samw will apply to the Swiss/Gorf relationship when others mention this later.
dislike wysper


Not repeating posts ive already highlighted, but good content here.

#549 Exlight doesnt even try to wagon me, just comments on leading wagons. Exlight seems to be happy that it just isnt him up for lynch.
Dislike exlight

#553 +

#554 Wiisp implies Osie reads him unreliably, when Wiisp is already top lynch taget. Big dislike. Coverign his ass
Dislike wiisp

COP Claim & Wiisp situation, all my thoughts on this in this one section, no post #s unless needed
If Wiisp claims VT, he gets lynched. If he claims non town, he gets lynched. So anyone not expecting a PR claim here needs to rethink themselves.
I did expect a doc claim as opposed to cop, but it's so bold, and Wiisp seems so slimy, that it is not enough to nullify him in my eyes. I woke up at 4am this morning and actually thought to myself that it was probably exactly what I would do as scum here. Sat here in the morning did I honestly expect the lynch to still go through, no. But I think it is a scum lynch, and hence push it. Retrospect should have just swapped as other people don't have the cojones and I just get scum points from some for no gain. I'm not getting back into the counter claim fiasco, but agree with gorf, ff etc.



#564 I keep coming back to this by Rhand
" You were clearly softing cop or seer. " His justification of this later is not good enough.
Dislike Rhand

#565 like gorf
oh you didnt see claim

like gorf shortly after anyway

#572 like Eido, he's the breaks on the Wiisp train. Townie play.

#577 townie back off, shame

#581 actually i was much more reasonable than i remember

#583 my play isn't selfish, just controlling.

#590 this is the weak Rhand response. Feels too much like buddying up to a claimed PR so he looks good.

#598 I was very reasonable, I thought i was being an ass

#612 opportunistic push by Rhand here imo

#615 mindmeld with myself, feels good

#616 Scarlet I can't even

#621 remember

#630 is actually reasonable by Rhand
overall dislike

#641 Rhand tried to direct doc, let's see if Exlight or others get on him for this like they do me

also huge wifom but still pushing for a claimed PR lynch is so scummy I have to be town right (noone respond to this)

#653 Rhand to respond: Yes I would, if I had the support, but I don't have the support and knew it - so what's the actual problem. What result are you afraid of?

#656 surely gorf town

#659 Rhand to respond: Why as werewolf, would I want cop dead. I'd want to be cleared. Surely the push on me has to be Indy or Mafia. It makes zero sense. He just wants to push me regardless of why.

#681Exlight, commented on this later, refusing to see game past 2d. Disliek for experienced player.

#686 remember this

#690 Exlight accuses me of being scummy for pushing the Wiisp lynch and claim in the first place. Yes when before Wiisp claimed Exlight said "Swiss/Wiisp leading wagons lesgo" and was happy to allow him to be pressured into a claim. He's trying to change history, making it look like he was defnending an 'obvious power role', but that's not what he did.
Dislike massively

#695 Too bold of a push by FF to be only other person willing to hit Wiisp. FF not a risk taker, and this not in character for him, he's town.
FF town

#704 mao reacts as I expected a townie to

#711 Exlight you're gonna wanna go and find...any of my games - if that's my meta clear then I'm cleared. Find any game after my first 4/5 or so which were all scum iirc.

#720 actually half decent to null by Wiisp, but still very much dislike

#727 well worded thoughts, worth a re-read. Again his push on me is proved to be disingenuous.

skipping the rage

#737 Wiisp suggesting I genuinely believed I had Rhand pinned on my first post. dislike
n.b. i did end up with a scumlean on Rhand, which eased, and is now back

#739 exlight acknowledges he's been disingenuous. Almost townie by admitting hubris. Overall dislike

skipping more useless rage

#745 good mao
#746 and gorf

people taking harder, less easy stances than i expected, which I like

#749 - lol

#777 Eido takes townie approach

#796 Rhand says "I think Swiss has pocketed Gorf"
You THINK? We are both very open about him openly sheeping for the moment - and what's the problem with this? Why is this scummy? Why would scum teammates do this?

#821 Rhand explain Wam push here?! dislike

#823 Rhand explain Whysper swap immediately after?!
I mean so fast probably town..like a bit
Overall big dislike

Eido more content and opinions please

skip skip skip

#848 Wiisp then who

#853 Gorf with 5 scum getting a good lynch >>>>> interactions. Interactions not as valuable

#865 Exlight...why would the WW ever kill the cop, who can't find them and can only help them?

#893 Osie push on Mao out of left field. More content on the Swiss/Wiisp/Exlight interactions pls

Utopian entry is so scummy surely he's not.

#919 Gorf why?

Vote Wysper