Mafia and Werewolves Gamethread

[ExLight]

coordinating in the early game while scum has full resources is the worst thing town can do because scum can disrupt it easily and it baffles me none of these “veterans” seem to realize that

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

^that was Rhand

 

[ExLight]

actually it doesn’t baffle me because they’re ****ing scumreads to me rn because I cannot believe a veteran would do plays like these on purpose

 

[ExLight]

*like these as town and on purpose

 

[Swiss]

HE ASKED TO BE DOCTORED OVER THE ****ING CLAIMS

He was a good target until he ****ing asked to be checked. Dude literally trying to put the idea of a redirector while if he’s a deflector he can just switch it to one of the claimed roles. If he’s some sort of PGO he gets to kill everyone. If Rolestopper he gets to waste everyone’s investigative roles; same for Ascetic/Commuter. If he’s a Godfather he gets a ****ing free pass.

Where in the ****ing world should someone like him be coordinating stuff openly like this?

Can’t win with you can I?

Don’t want ‘cop’ alive because when outed it’s useless - Swiss looks scum

Offer to be copped - there’s obviously a redirect - Swiss looks scum

You can’t eat your cake and have it

 

[Swiss]

Exlight you dense man - it doesn’t matter where the doc protects - it matters where the mafia think the doc is protecting.

If you keep quiet and agree doc on me - it gives doc free protect on someone else.

Like I can’t begin to explain your level of critical thinking as anything other than wilfully ignorant.

 

[Wiisp]

Can we vote frozen now?

 

[ExLight]

Can’t win with you can I?

considering I’m town I don’t think you can no

 

[ExLight]

Exlight you dense man - it doesn’t matter where the doc protects - it matters where the mafia think the doc is protecting.

If you keep quiet and agree doc on me - it gives doc free protect on someone else.

if mafia has strongman does it even matter?

 

[ExLight]

Like I can’t begin to explain your level of critical thinking as anything other than wilfully ignorant.

you tryina WIFOM mafia N1 which is like one of the most basic noob mistakes dude

I literally spelled out a massive list of roles you could be as scum while coordinating this bull****
the fact you already pressured a town power role into claiming is proof that you’re either not apt of townleading town or scum

 

[ExLight]

Don’t want ‘cop’ alive because when outed it’s useless - Swiss looks scum

And no it’s ****ing not?

 

[Wiisp]

It doesn't even matter, we have two PRs outted now
The last PR can only catch wolves. Unless we somehow mind game two different factional kills, we lost all our informative roles. The seer only be able to catch 2/5 evils if they are lucky that is

 

[Swiss]

if mafia has strongman does it even matter?

you could suggest a role for any circumstance that would throw a spanner in the works? What are you trying to achieve here? What value do you see in this?

 

[ExLight]

Swiss why do you criticize me for not voting you while putting you in my scumreads but when it’s your time to do it you don’t vote me?

do it

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

wiisp quick claim power play literally comes as ZERO ****ing surprise

the open buddying between him and rhand is nauseating at this point, never want to think mates can be this obvious but I learned a pretty harsh lesson in Things I Like Mafia, they seem to have significant experience with one another though so it could just be one scum one town and one of them is getting pocketed by the other. I could see myself accidently letting this happen to me if I was playing with like scum!Gorf, scum!Swiss or scum!Chaco. gotta be a bingo between these two though

thing I hate about the wiisp slot other than his trolly arrogance is that he literally misrepresents my posts, calls me a wolf due to his own misread or misrepresentation of the post, and then when I correct him and ask for substantiation he literally doesn't even bother to try? just comes off like a wolf knowing they overstepped the attack and want to mitigate their paper trail. the kneejerk cop claim comes off heavy like a powergrab to divert attention away from him with enought time cushion before deadline to ensure the vote momentum comes squarely off him without a risk of last minute clown car wagon swings screwing him before he can really use his claim to grab hold of the wheel. for scum!wiisp it's a total ****ing power grab gambit to do this, all in on surviving an extra day and trying to bait the real cop claim since we know its a confirmed role. hell, scum!wiisp already got a payoff baiting the scarlet claim (lmao scarlet town btw), so if real cop counter claims he literally got extra credit for his mate already

normally I wouldn't be considering a fake claim this early this seriously but given how rhand and wiisp came into this game acting like they ran the show and sussed any slot that thought eh maybe nah bro makes me suss af that it's wiisp gambit because he legit just thinks he's that much better than us at the game and thinks he can get away with it

counterclaim if it exists should wait for now, need some time to process this and do some re-read, but any CC should come before sunday imo

 

[Wiisp]

Cause I doubt there is a 4th informative role, and I think there are only 2 extra prs? Unless I'm mistaken which only leaves room for a doctor

 

[Swiss]

And no it’s ****ing not?

Ywt for the same reason you don’t want me copped lol

 

[Eido]

This is wild.

Can someone summerise for me?

Reading through bits now.

 

[ExLight]

you could suggest a role for any circumstance that would throw a spanner in the works? What are you trying to achieve here? What value do you see in this?

Talk about hypocrisy, how is this any different from your “outed cop is useless” argument?

 

[Wiisp]

Given your still talking about a town, and it's easily possible that swiss has been pressuring two town all game, yes, I think I am pretty god damn good. I play differently, you haven't even done ****.

Is this a popularity contest? Why the **** does nobody talk about frozen? What is so special about them? And given this play here is completely different then there town play, that the other dude listed, I don't understand

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

It doesn't even matter, we have two PRs outted now
The last PR can only catch wolves. Unless we somehow mind game two different factional kills, we lost all our informative roles. The seer only be able to catch 2/5 evils if they are lucky that is

we have cop seer and 3 pr’s. So that’s 5, not 3

 

[Wiisp]

There is 0 reas

we have cop seer and 3 pr’s. So that’s 5, not 3

Ohh we have 5 I was assuming 4 and the in my world the 4th is a doctor not another protective

 

[ExLight]

Ywt for the same reason you don’t want me copped lol

I don’t want you copped. You asking for it makes me think you might be scum with a way of getting wrongly cleared from it. I’d rather have you tracked in case you perform a kill or disrupt someone.

 

[Detective Mao]

As much as I dislike the idea of Swiss pushing for a Wiisp kill even after claiming (which is always a no-no)

ExLight, your arguments are really... Narrow-minded? Convenient to your own perspective?

you tryina WIFOM mafia N1 which is like one of the most basic noob mistakes dude

I literally spelled out a massive list of roles you could be as scum while coordinating this bull****
the fact you already pressured a town power role into claiming is proof that you’re either not apt of townleading town or scum

Why do you immediately assume he was speaking the truth when you previously had him in your scumreads? You're ignoring some crucial details with the way you're pressuring Swiss, it feels an awful lot like pu agenda.

 

[Wiisp]

Me claiming has literally brought the most interactions we have had all god damn game to be brutally honest here, which is pretty funny

 

[Detective Mao]

I'm on my phone right now and trying to follow the thread, so I'm a bit confused
But bleh

 

[ExLight]

oh I misread that

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

This is wild.

Can someone summerise for me?

Reading through bits now.

I JUST got caught up and barely but wiisp is claim town cop, SR "counterclaimed" wiisp thinking her role, town scientist, was mutually exclusive with town cop as an investigative (she just didn't read the setup post clearly), and swiss is trying to pull ryker-esque NR management amid the chaos which also comes as zero ****ing surprise

 

[Wiisp]

I cant even

Unvote
Vote: ExLight

please put me out of my misery

Plz stop let's not ****ing do this

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

Me claiming has literally brought the most interactions we have had all god damn game to be brutally honest here, which is pretty funny

it's ****ing day 1, not a high bar

 

[ExLight]

Why do you immediately assume he was speaking the truth when you previously had him in your scumreads?

I’m not? I’m pointing out that as a veteran I find him committing this kind of play as town is unlikely.
I’m still pushing for his lynch because I don’t think him coordinating actions around himself is trustworthy.

 

[ExLight]

Plz stop let's not ****ing do this

doesn’t it give you token mafia flashbacks bb

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

gorf sanity check me, I'm not ****ing wack for thinking rhand and wiisp are so far up each other's ass it's reason to be concerned right?

 

[Wiisp]

it's ****ing day 1, not a high bar

And has that stopped anyone else? You have done jack ****, your 3rd post has the only reads and they don't even have ezplainations, since that entire post was about ****ting on me because you got offended by a meme.

 

[ExLight]

gorf sanity check me, I'm not ****ing wack for thinking rhand and wiisp are so far up each other's ass it's reason to be concerned right?

did you even read what happened
:aaaaaAAAA:

 

[Wiisp]

doesn’t it give you token mafia flashbacks bb

Man I've played so many token mafias, I don't remember which one you are talking about

 

[#HBC | FrozeηFlame]

did you even read what happened
:aaaaaAAAA:

did you read my 695?

 

[ExLight]

Man I've played so many token mafias, I don't remember which one you are talking about

wait, not token mafia
which one was the one we met?

 

[ExLight]

did you read my 695?

I didn’t actually, missed it
thread going too fast
gimme sec

 

[Wiisp]

Day 1 does not have to be between me and Swiss, this is exactly why I claimed early. Regardless of how frustrating Swiss' playstyle is, we have a lot of time to evaluate a slot like. There is very miniscule reasons to kill that