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I agree with the Chibo hate because Omni is dead on this is why that type of inactivr is bad. They never catch up and don't try too. It's a maybe 10 minute read when reading in depth. Multiquote as you go and just quote everything you thinks important. Then make a wall post and not take a month to catch up.

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I'm taking "a month" to catch up because I was just out of state for MLG for 4 days, am currently in the middle of finals week at school, still have work this week, and moved out of my apartment this past Monday.
 

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For me it's not so much the inactiveness, it's the obvious selective reading and the deflection of 'what about xiivi?!' when he 'doesnt know what to do.'
 

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okay yeah I'm going to be leaving for class now I guess

I've yet to be convinced of anyone being town but jungle

jungle get your lazy *** in here so we can start forming a town alliance already

also omg mentos why are you always scummy holy **** (2nd paragraph gez I don't even know what it's referencing but NO) vote: mentos what a good vote, town let's kill him plzzzzzzz I have candies and chocolates and chocolate candies for you all
The second paragraph is probably the most simple one of the whole thing>_> Literally all I'm saying in it is "yeah, it's how Kevin plays, but for him to pop in and say let's kill Omni then disappear doesn't look good, and I may end up voting him for it if it keeps up."

Now, what Chaco just said? Yeah I'm not getting it. I can't really follow what the sentence is saying, plus it seems to say to do what Chibo did which is the person who he's saying is the bad kind of inactive? I mean like literally, he says to multiquote and make a wall post like Chibo did, but he's calling him the bad kind of inactive for not catching up... When Xiivi seems to fit what he's trying to describe as the "bad type of inactive" much better. I really need you to explain this one Chaco.
 

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The only reason I brought up Xiivi is I don't get it how people don't like it when I come back and say what I can about what I've read thus far and when Xiivi comes back and says nothing and everyone's fine with it. If I shouldn't need to be commenting on the game thus fay then I won't do it for pages 10+ since no one really cares bout it
 

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Xiivi sucks for not doing anything, but we don't have anything to work with from him, or not as much as you. Not only have you been inactive, like Xiivi (both legitimate inactiveness from what i gather), you've said a few things that really irk me the wrong way.
 

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I'd just like to add since Jungle's ninja then the next two posts, the ninja specifically is a solid point. The what about (blank)(in this case Xiivi) responses are what's questionable about Chibo, not the way he came back from V/LA postwise today.
 

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@Chibo: Sorry but if you don't know why I voted Nix then you obviously haven't read the entire thread :/. Read read read ok?

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Chuckie says "this kevin07 wagon ain't going nowhere and Chuckie loooooovvessss CANDY so"

Vote: mentos


ZV, wii request that the candy be delivered quickly or Chuckie will turn on you like in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYfj0j1Rgag

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To break the ice, Mentos, why'd you react weirdly when you first decided to post:

Haha I love how work bogs me down for a little while and people start voting me for it>_< When will you guys ever learn that there are occasional times when work eats up all I've got and I don't have a chance to post every single dayXD
It seems to us that you were feeling the pressure a little bit! Wii would even go as far to say that this post feels a little bit scripted... Also ChuckieKat would like to point out that wii get bad vibes from this post:

@Chuckie- I like your answer to the first part, one follow up though. Do you think that a weekend is enough to successfully judge someone as inactive? I can see where you're coming from, but do you think that the time range is enough to start basing votes on? Also, don't think you have either van, really though I think you're the only one here who's never played with meXD Like I said though that was mostly just directed at Omni over a comment that I felt was unnecessarily jerkish.
The first sentence comes across as if you're trying to get in Chuckie's good books, and then later on steal Chuckies crayon's when he's not looking! Chuckie will be keeping all 4 eyes open :chuckie:
 

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Now, what Chaco just said? Yeah I'm not getting it. I can't really follow what the sentence is saying, plus it seems to say to do what Chibo did which is the person who he's saying is the bad kind of inactive? I mean like literally, he says to multiquote and make a wall post like Chibo did, but he's calling him the bad kind of inactive for not catching up... When Xiivi seems to fit what he's trying to describe as the "bad type of inactive" much better. I really need you to explain this one Chaco.
I'm posting from my phone so going in depth on sentences wont happen much. Let me tell you what my perspective of the bad kind of inactive is: One who stays behind game and constantly lets everyone know this. He selectively reads parts of the thread when the game in it's whole is not long. They know just as well as I that putting it off allows time for the thread to grow even more thus putting them in a state of constant catch up. Chibo's wall posts, aren't really wall posts. He quotes like a handful of things instead of just reading the entire thread at once and doing what he's doing now. So he puts out just enough information to get by with and still fall into the neverending catch up game. I much prefer Xiivi at the moment cause I at least know he will read or has been keeping up with the thread. Chibo I can see just falling into that cycle and never recovering,maybe purposefully or possibly not.

@Mentos: The post is edgy due to my lack of time when I was typing it, so it kinda hit what I was thinking more so than explaining it well. I can understand why you didn't get it, but it seems like you got my gist but didn't see it as I did. Hopefully, the elaborated post will get you set on track.

Laptop during breaks ftw. Don't expect a post from me until tomorrow afternoon or Friday night after 11 @ latest.
 

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I'm taking "a month" to catch up because I was just out of state for MLG for 4 days, am currently in the middle of finals week at school, still have work this week, and moved out of my apartment this past Monday.
Yeah, that's cool and all but I'm taking my required high school classes, additional college hours through night classes, and work all week. Excuses do not matter. Im caught up with the game,and you're not. Simple as that.
 

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There's nothing wrong with questions, but you should try and do other stuff too.



There's a fine line between looking useful and being useful, don't you think? Do you think Nix has been useful so far, relative to his post count?
He absolutely has been helpful in my book. The more he posts, the more content there is to look back on later on. Even if it seems insignificant now, it could be useful later on. Better than nothing at least.

Also thinking back to the OP, is the mafia leader a special role of sorts or is it almost like a mafia goon? I suppose I could go research the first ff7 mafia...
I agree you should meta instead of actually working/sarcasm.
On a similar tangent, creeping like you did inst cool Xiivi. Just because someone is on the DG home doesnt mean they are reading. Meta is just something I like to avoid in near all cases.

Anyway, I'm really wishing Kevin would start making some posts. His Omni needs to die post was not a good choice to disappear on for days without saying any more. While I know it's how Kev plays, the longer he goes with that as his last comment the more uneasy I feel. May toss my vote there.

In the meantime, some of the timing of comments has been interesting. The FF response to Nix doesn't really bug me, I took it as more of a joking way to respond. I was scum with him in the original FF7, and his scum game is meticulous, and so far I don't see any hint of what I know of(at least from what I know of his old scum meta, obviously I haven't been around a whole lot lately).

Regardless, I'm going to try to think up something to jumpstart discussion. If I can't I'll find something else to do. Either way works :)
That first paragraph reeks of bad. You passively disagree with what Kevin is doing (like everyone in the game doenst already hate on Kevin for that) but remain passive enough that it wouldnt be a surprise for you to not act on it. You are making it look like you are taking a stance when in reality you are remaining neutral while keeping your options for doing anything seem reasonable.

I like how you try to defend FF with year old meta. Its cute.
 

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@Summoner: how do you think toDay's inactivity will play out if it continues at this pace for the entire game? are you okay with nailing Nix? do you realize that you dont even have the opportunity to nail players like Xiivi, Chibo, and Kevin because they're not giving you anything to work with

i dont like your question at the end. not in the least bit.
If it continues and people are blatantly prod dodging, I'm cool with a lynch then. They'll either get modkilled or replace out if they aren't prod dodging. Right now it's mid day one with a bunch of people who called V/LA. I could twiddle my thumbs and wait for them to do something or I could look at the people who are active.

Yes.

Yes.

I was going to ask him straight up who he thought was active and scummy but I remember his post about wanting to withhold stuff until later. So I asked him in a way that he wouldn't have to reveal names. A better question would have been "Is there anyone active that you're getting a scum read off?"

@Chibo's #192 ( too lazy to quote) Haven't we been out of RVS/RQS for a million years now? Couldn't you have asked Xiivi to make a judgement on something that's happened now he's alive instead of asking who he's played with. Everyone knows Xiivi doesn't play mafia games.

was gunna response to more of these posts but I have to shower and uni. You have a coupon for 1(one) Summoner post.
 

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Guys sorry about that unannounced V/LA I feel awful about that, school started i should have mentioned i was going to be gone.

Rereading now. :D.
 

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Ok so anyways since I don't really think there should be votes on me I'm not going to be commenting on that.

I will however say I like how Gheb is playing.

Still think Omni is the play, the fact of the matter is he really tried hard to defend himself from the fact I thought he should be the lynch today.

Not with facts or anything, or scum hunting but saying NO ONE LISTEN HE'S TROLLING.

Seriously I don't spell things out for people and I don't care, nor should I have too. The game of mafia isn't about long winded paragraphs never has been.

Omni should be the lynch today, his playstyle this game is really scummy. I don't like the way he placed a vote on me as the votes started swinging saying fine with this wagon, but would rather have other wagons.. this one however is appealing too.

Yeah sure it's really appealing when the person who thinks you should be lynched gets a wagon on him. Especially since your entire defense was just LOL ignore troll no suspicions here.

You're playing the pressure inactive game WAY to hard this time and I don't like it.

Omni is our lynch, take your votes off me it's a stupid one.

Also if people lynch me just because "we haven't lynched him in forever" I will go over and stick a magnet on your monitor, because you shouldn't be playing this game.
 

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Ok so anyways since I don't really think there should be votes on me I'm not going to be commenting on that.

I will however say I like how Gheb is playing.

Still think Omni is the play, the fact of the matter is he really tried hard to defend himself from the fact I thought he should be the lynch today.
no, first i ignored you. then i told rockin to not feed your trolling aka ask you a question you should've answered in the same post. i actually didn't defend myself against nothing because... there was nothing to defend against. you didnt say anything. note to self: i think this statement is bs

Not with facts or anything, or scum hunting but saying NO ONE LISTEN HE'S TROLLING.
you were. you came in and said i was the play without saying why. this is bad. what facts can i give you to tell you im not the play 2 days into the game? this isnt smart play in the least bit.

Seriously I don't spell things out for people and I don't care, nor should I have too. The game of mafia isn't about long winded paragraphs never has been.
you spell it out when you decide someone is the play a few days into the game where there are still a total of 4-5 players who haven't said a word. by calling me the play that early in the game you can only make your basis off of META. there are no trails, connections, strings; just you looking at my play and saying, "i can see a scummy twist to this". those same actions can also be argued "i can see a townie twist to this" but if you twist it to your will with hardly any information it's weak. you dont have an argument so far. everything is weak.

Omni should be the lynch today, his playstyle this game is really scummy. I don't like the way he placed a vote on me as the votes started swinging saying fine with this wagon, but would rather have other wagons.. this one however is appealing too.
i didn't place a vote on you all game, Kevin. my vote has been on Omis the majority of the game and then Chibo. it's actually the opposite; i've been saying i'm okay with you dying but HAVEN'T been placing a vote on you because i want more out of people i know would actually deliver since your initial two posts were total ***.

speaking of *** you're either playing like one or you're talking out of it because most of what you said has been empty, weak, and/or inaccurate/incorrect.

Yeah sure it's really appealing when the person who thinks you should be lynched gets a wagon on him. Especially since your entire defense was just LOL ignore troll no suspicions here.
as stated, i didn't vote nor start your wagon. i wanted an Omis and Chibo wagon. you're making things up at this point and i think you're trying desperately to justify your initial post on me to not look like a flip flopper. again, you haven't posted ANYTHING so there was nothing to defend against.

so i take it back; you weren't trolling. you were just playing a terrible game. i dont see town Kevin making such horrible accusations and weak cases so i'm going to assume you're scum attempting not to flip flop

You're playing the pressure inactive game WAY to hard this time and I don't like it.
i play the inactive game EVERY game hard. the only reason why it's harder this game is because of the sheer amount of inactive players. the fact that i'm playing an inactive game doesn't make me scummy in the least bit. do you think it's anti-town to get on everyone's *** about being active and actively participating? loaded question because it's not anti-town.

your additional justifications for your already empty accusation is not good.

Omni is our lynch, take your votes off me it's a stupid one.
no, it's a good one. based on your responses to this post it'll probably be you being the play. your pre-play before this post was awful and this response post just smells like dirty socks. im positive that everyone will agree. positive.

Also if people lynch me just because "we haven't lynched him in forever" I will go over and stick a magnet on your monitor, because you shouldn't be playing this game.
i dont think anyone is lynching you for that reason so stop whining. so far votes have been put on you legitimately, btu somehow you think it's a stupid one? are you looking at this game from a town perspective at all?

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while we wait another 5 days for Kevin to post i want to know if any of you AGREE with Kevin's accusations on me. dont respond if you disagree and if you do agree dont explain why (for now)
 

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Why would they not explain with a deadline?

I don't understand you, your persecuting me for withholding information, and now telling people to withhold information.

Does not compute.

Also try and keep it civil, I'm not saying your playing like *** nor do I go out on a limb and say it in most games you play.

I'm not looking for a fight with you just because your upset.

Your defense btw is super emotional.

Thought you placed a vote on me... ahh well even better that you kept mentioning my wagon and didn't throw a vote down until now.
 

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Also one more thing to point out, I make horrible cases as scum all the time because no one pays attention to cases in this game unless their pages long *shrugs*.

Omni still is the play today.

Xiivi obv town should buddy buddy with me.

Inactives are annoying but I can't really blackkettlecall here.

Also Omni don't bother refuting anything I'm not going to go into a back and forth with you here. Don't feel like going against someone that is inept at any sort of conversational tone.

*** AT THIS GAME BRO.

Doin it rite now?
 

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i'll tone it down for you a bit. didn't realize you were so sensitive.

no excuse for you not being able to respond to my post. just take out the parts that hurt your feelings and respond accordingly.

you're piggy banking off your original concept more and more. you realize that your entire explanation of why you feel like im the play is based on actions that occurred AFTER you said i was the play? you pegged me as the play early 2nd page or 3rd page and most of your justifications come from my actions after your initial call out.

and i said (for now) because right now i want to talk directly to you and i want to see if people will commit to agreeing with your case on me without you using their explanation for your own build up.

trying to buddy gheb and xiivi is silly.

if i wasnt positive tom hated jesters i'd be 100% sold that you were one
 

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but if you aren't going to respond to my case then i'm fine with opening discussion back to the floor. you're under the impression that i'm angry or mad at you but this is my normal partial bully play. nothing is personal yet you're taking it personal. seems like you're doing that so you can actually avoid 1 on 1 discussion because my points are on point and you'd look silly trying to refute them.
 

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Ok so anyways since I don't really think there should be votes on me I'm not going to be commenting on that.
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Still think Omni is the play, the fact of the matter is he really tried hard to defend himself from the fact I thought he should be the lynch today.
:urg: Where did he do this?

Not with facts or anything, or scum hunting but saying NO ONE LISTEN HE'S TROLLING.
That's trying really hard to defend himself? That's not defending that's dismissing. Hmmm...

Seriously I don't spell things out for people and I don't care, nor should I have too. The game of mafia isn't about long winded paragraphs never has been.
But I don't recall anyone saying you were scummy for not spelling things out persay. At least all I said was if you're gonna play baby jesus style like that you can't like tunnel someone like that and just not vote or whatever. Just doesn't seem consistent or committal.

You're playing the pressure inactive game WAY to hard this time and I don't like it.
Compared to what other time? This sort of **** needs to be clear if you're going to say something like that.

Omni is our lynch, take your votes off me it's a stupid one.
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Also if people lynch me just because "we haven't lynched him in forever" I will go over and stick a magnet on your monitor, because you shouldn't be playing this game.
Acceptable sentiment but unwarranted because that isn't the prevailing reasoning at all.

I'm not looking for a fight with you just because your upset.

Your defense btw is super emotional.
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Omni's defense was emotional? Really? How?

Also one more thing to point out, I make horrible cases as scum all the time because no one pays attention to cases in this game unless their pages long *shrugs*.

Omni still is the play today.

Xiivi obv town should buddy buddy with me.
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Just blech at all of this, especially Xiivi buddying. Like lolwut.

Also on another note lol wut @ Xiivi buddying JF. At first was super confused but then I realized Mark Benford is JF and was then only slightly confused. Still a ridiculously random town call. Distracting. =/

Very unsatisfied with Kevin right now but I've heard too little from other people to be content with just going through with his lynch.

@ Kevin, not asking you to make huge posts or anything but you're seriously missing a lot of really important pieces in your responses and a lot of analysis that you've omitted that is very easy to do in a short, succinct manner but you're just not fleshing out. Despite your short posting style (which isn't inherently problematic), you can usually answer questions completely and offer good analysis but you're very off this game. Very bothersome. =/
 

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It's what I have done in every single game I've replaced in or had to catch up in with VLA.
And it either got you lynched or at least made you a major suspect in all of these games. You might do it in "every single gmae" you had to catch up but eventually it always stands out that you do it as *scum* more than anything else.

Xiivi, what players in this game have you played the most games with and what players have you played the fewest, if not no games with?
Are you serious lmao

I agree with the Chibo hate because Omni is dead on this is why that type of inactivr is bad. They never catch up and don't try too. It's a maybe 10 minute read when reading in depth. Multiquote as you go and just quote everything you thinks important. Then make a wall post and not take a month to catch up.

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For me it's not so much the inactiveness, it's the obvious selective reading and the deflection of 'what about xiivi?!' when he 'doesnt know what to do.'
FoS Chaco

Jungle has it right. The main issue I had with Chibo was the attitude and pointlessness of his "comeback" post, not his inactivity and that's also the same point Omni picked up. Considering that you didn't have to catch up with anything I'm surprised that you're guilty of selective reading just as much as Chibo because as far as I can see *none* of the people - including Omni, whom you specifically mentioned - dropped their votes on Chibo because of his inactivity.

im cool with mentos dying, too
Vote: KevinM

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Come on, Omni. What do you really want? Most of the day you spent justifying your stance on inactives, then when said players speak up you proceed to vote them anyways. Understandable in Chibo's and Mentos' case [imo] but I can't see why Kevin takes top priority now that he's done most of what you/others demanded. What of his recent actions justifies a vote on him - I hope you have a good reason or else you leave me no choice than to look at it as OMGUS.

Why are you cool with mentos dying? Because people like it? The why aren't you voting him?
Why does Kevin deserve the vote more than Chibo or mentos? Because he's voting you?
Is Omis clear to you all of a sudden?

Make up your mind, Omni.

He absolutely has been helpful in my book. The more he posts, the more content there is to look back on later on. Even if it seems insignificant now, it could be useful later on. Better than nothing at least.

I agree you should meta instead of actually working/sarcasm.
On a similar tangent, creeping like you did inst cool Xiivi. Just because someone is on the DG home doesnt mean they are reading. Meta is just something I like to avoid in near all cases.

That first paragraph reeks of bad. You passively disagree with what Kevin is doing (like everyone in the game doenst already hate on Kevin for that) but remain passive enough that it wouldnt be a surprise for you to not act on it. You are making it look like you are taking a stance when in reality you are remaining neutral while keeping your options for doing anything seem reasonable.

I like how you try to defend FF with year old meta. Its cute.
I will however say I like how Gheb is playing.
You always say that when you're scum -.-
You only say that when you're scum ;_;

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:urg: Where did he do this?

That's trying really hard to defend himself? That's not defending that's dismissing. Hmmm...

But I don't recall anyone saying you were scummy for not spelling things out persay. At least all I said was if you're gonna play baby jesus style like that you can't like tunnel someone like that and just not vote or whatever. Just doesn't seem consistent or committal.

Compared to what other time? This sort of **** needs to be clear if you're going to say something like that.

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Acceptable sentiment but unwarranted because that isn't the prevailing reasoning at all.

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Omni's defense was emotional? Really? How?

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Just blech at all of this, especially Xiivi buddying. Like lolwut.

Also on another note lol wut @ Xiivi buddying JF. At first was super confused but then I realized Mark Benford is JF and was then only slightly confused. Still a ridiculously random town call. Distracting. =/

Very unsatisfied with Kevin right now but I've heard too little from other people to be content with just going through with his lynch.

@ Kevin, not asking you to make huge posts or anything but you're seriously missing a lot of really important pieces in your responses and a lot of analysis that you've omitted that is very easy to do in a short, succinct manner but you're just not fleshing out. Despite your short posting style (which isn't inherently problematic), you can usually answer questions completely and offer good analysis but you're very off this game. Very bothersome. =/
Stop if, Frozen - I'm not buying this anymore. The connection between you and Omni is so awkward and illogical that I can't help but think that you guys are ... different. The early exchange from the first pages already stood out to me and now a blatant defense like this only substantiates this idea. Furthermore, I have not forgotten about your response to Nix earlier. All this looks hardly credible in my eyes, which normally is the last thing that comes to my mind when I think of you, Frozen.

tl;dr

Getting scum vibes from Frozen and Chaco
Null-read on Riddler, Xiivi, Summoner, Rockin and Kevin
Town vibes coming from Nix, Jungle and Chuckie
Omni, Omis, Chibo and Mentos all give me a major headache and I can't make up my mind on them.

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Stop if, Frozen - I'm not buying this anymore. The connection between you and Omni is so awkward and illogical that I can't help but think that you guys are ... different.
And by "different" I mean "different from the rest of us" - not from Omni

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Come on, Omni. What do you really want? Most of the day you spent justifying your stance on inactives, then when said players speak up you proceed to vote them anyways. Understandable in Chibo's and Mentos' case [imo] but I can't see why Kevin takes top priority now that he's done most of what you/others demanded. What of his recent actions justifies a vote on him - I hope you have a good reason or else you leave me no choice than to look at it as OMGUS.
i've said what i want: information and for people to stop being inactive. if i find scum or someone very scummy in the process: cool.

i originally voted Frozen and then Omis until they finally started speaking. when they did start speaking i removed my votes from them either because i was content with what they were saying and/or i wanted to move on to another inactive.

i voted chibo out of inactivity for saying he'd catch up, and that he was only halfway through after like a day? i then left my vote on him because i found his initial analysis of the shallow with his selective quoting and responses.

kevin takes top priority because i truly believe he is scum. did you read his reasoning for wanting me to be the play? do you buy it? do you think it's reasonable and/or justified? do you not find his explanations as to why i am the play in the least bit? how were you able to skip past my entire "wtf are you on, kevin, here's why your push on me is weak and nonexistent"? i'd like for you to go through Kevin's new posts and my responses posts and tell me what you think about the exchange.

Why are you cool with mentos dying? Because people like it? The why aren't you voting him?
Why does Kevin deserve the vote more than Chibo or mentos? Because he's voting you?
Is Omis clear to you all of a sudden?
you haven't played in a game with me in a while so i'll explain. i separate players into two lists, sometimes three: can die, can live, and idk. mentos can die because i'm not particularly fond of his input so far this game. he doesnt seem like he wants to extract information. keivn deserves the vote more because i find his explanations to be bogus.

i cant be on everyone at once. if you've been paying attention i've been hopping from player to player and applying pressure.

Make up your mind, Omni.
what do you mean by this? my mind hasn't changed on anything i've said thus far. id like for you to explain what you mean by this. just because i'm moving over to another player doesn't mean i've forgotten previous people.

finally, if you want to understand the exchange between Frozen and I go read into DG Mafia a bit. Frozen was ******** inactive to the point where they were receiving countless prods and Mac decided to replace out. so was Macman. it wasn't a random exchange so stop being paranoid about our connection.

why didn't you say anything about Kevin's case on me at all?

Stop if, Frozen - I'm not buying this anymore. The connection between you and Omni is so awkward and illogical that I can't help but think that you guys are ... different. The early exchange from the first pages already stood out to me and now a blatant defense like this only substantiates this idea. Furthermore, I have not forgotten about your response to Nix earlier. All this looks hardly credible in my eyes, which normally is the last thing that comes to my mind when I think of you, Frozen.
i explained the earlier exchange a while ago.

i am a bit confused as to why frozen only responded back to kevin in a manner in which i already did instead of just focusing on our exchange as a whole. im more curious as to what he thinks about my direct responses to kevin.
 

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Vote Count:
[4] KevinM: frozenflame751, Dr. Riddler, Gheb_01, Omni
[2] mentosman8: Chuckie, Omis
[1] ChiboSempai: Junglefever
[1] Nix2100: SummonerAU
[0] Omni
[0] Rockin
[0] Chaco
[0] Gheb_01
[0] Omis
[0] Chuckie
[0] Xiivi
[0] Dr. Riddler
[0] Junglefever
[0] frozenflame751
[0] SummonerAU

[7] Not Voting: KevinM, Rockin, mentosman8, ChiboSempai, Nix2100, Xiivi, Chaco

Last Post:
0-24hr: Omni, Gheb_01, Chuckie, frozenflame, KevinM, ChiboSempai, Omis, SummonerAU, Chaco, Mentosman, Junglefever, Xiivi
25-48hr: Nix2100, Dr. Riddler, Rockin
Inactive:

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
A deadline has been set for Wednesday, September 8th, Noon EST.
 

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Frozen really don't like your post, it's a null tell but most of the stuff you've said doesn't sit well with me :\.

Also it might seem off this game because I'm actually town for once in the last 11 games :D :D.

Still think Omni is the play.

Also **** right I want to buddy a player I think will vote with me when I think we've pegged our first scum.
 

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what you think doesn't matter if you can't express why nor respond to people telling you why not

if you're going to continue being intentionally unhelpful you're only going to end up lynching yourself. stop being stubborn with your play and attempt to be in the least bit pro-town.

@Xiivi: still want to know why you're deeming Jungle obvtown
@Riddler: you two are in a hydra and you still manage to keep disappearing?


can live: gheb, chuckie, nix, summoner
can die: kevin, chibo, omis, riddler, mentos
idk: xiivi, rockin, frozen, jungle, chaco
 

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Stop if, Frozen - I'm not buying this anymore. The connection between you and Omni is so awkward and illogical that I can't help but think that you guys are ... different. The early exchange from the first pages already stood out to me and now a blatant defense like this only substantiates this idea. Furthermore, I have not forgotten about your response to Nix earlier. All this looks hardly credible in my eyes, which normally is the last thing that comes to my mind when I think of you, Frozen.

tl;dr

Getting scum vibes from Frozen and Chaco
Null-read on Riddler, Xiivi, Summoner, Rockin and Kevin
Town vibes coming from Nix, Jungle and Chuckie
Omni, Omis, Chibo and Mentos all give me a major headache and I can't make up my mind on them.

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Not buying what? Like what am I supposed to stop? Are you gonna start being like Kevin and not communicate clearly?

You haven't forgotten about my response to Nix? That's nice. Am I supposed to be uneasy because you remember that? Or because anyone remembers it for that matter? I responded in that way for a reason and i explained why. What are you trying to bait out of me by trying to frame that response as some sort of naughty deed when you've done nothing to substantiate it as such?

And if you're going to say my stuff doesn't look credible you should probably try explaining at least a little bit.

wtfamireading.jpg @ the bolded. Like seriously wtf.


Frozen really don't like your post, it's a null tell but most of the stuff you've said doesn't sit well with me :\.

Also it might seem off this game because I'm actually town for once in the last 11 games :D :D.

Still think Omni is the play.

Also **** right I want to buddy a player I think will vote with me when I think we've pegged our first scum.
*sigh* seriously dude, obviously you don't like it but how am I supposed to stop being convinced you're scum if you do nothing at all to try and change that outside of saying you don't like X,Y,Z and one person is scum with little substantiation even for you.

Don't sell yourself short I think you're perfectly capable of carrying a consistent playstyle regardless of alignment. Joking or not that's a lame line to pitch. =/

But yeah seriously you should atleast answer the very simple questions I asked in my last post direct at you. They all only require very simple answers so there's really no excuse. I'm playing on your turf right now dude.
 

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I think his defense is just super jumpy for someone who dismissed it as lol trolling.

I don't think it's that hard to see <_<.

Also Ghebbycakes sorry for always saying it when I'm scum just normally you never jump on me so its easy buddy stuff :p.

However you're just the only person scumhunting and not contradicting themself at the moment.

Plus Frozen's blatant disregard of Omni's playstyle and contradictions worries me.
 

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I think his defense is just super jumpy for someone who dismissed it as lol trolling.

I don't think it's that hard to see <_<.

Also Ghebbycakes sorry for always saying it when I'm scum just normally you never jump on me so its easy buddy stuff :p.

However you're just the only person scumhunting and not contradicting themself at the moment.

Plus Frozen's blatant disregard of Omni's playstyle and contradictions worries me.
If you think its jumpy say jumpy. Don't say emotional. Very different things and that's blatant misconstruing.

And it is hard to see when you claim one thing and then when I call you out on it you claim something entirely different.

Bold is a tall order. I've most certainly not been ignoring Omni's playstyle at all. It's just exactly the same as it was when we were up in each others grills in Dgames. Also if you're going to claim contradictions you need substance to back that. One of my biggest pet peeves is people claiming someone is contradicting themselves but don't immediately explain how. It's totally unacceptable to blanket claim contradictory play. If you want me to take you seriously start proving what you say.
 

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why are you ok with kevin not responding to my direct responses, frozen? i feel like you're being lenient with him. you know he knows this stuff already.

but i dont know your play style fully so maybe you're naturally this soft, or im just overly aggressive
 

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It's not my job to call him out for not responding to your exchanges with him. If I notice someone consistently ignoring another's points and that person being ignored doesn't say anything at all consistently for a decent while I might speak up if it's bothering me but yeah, otherwise it's not my concern.

I'm not being soft, I'm being prudent.

You know as well as I do that I shouldn't be worried about you not calling someone out if they ignore you.
 

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im not particularly fond of kevins case on omni and the opposite, omnis case on kevin
icant really see anything coming out of it except omni is acting as he already has been and kevin is posting for once a lot which based off past games when he was scum, is a lot different from what iv seen
kind of interesting why only omni is voting kevin and not the other way around...
kevin, if u think omni is the play - why wont u vote him?
 

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It's not my job to call him out for not responding to your exchanges with him. If I notice someone consistently ignoring another's points and that person being ignored doesn't say anything at all consistently for a decent while I might speak up if it's bothering me but yeah, otherwise it's not my concern.

I'm not being soft, I'm being prudent.

You know as well as I do that I shouldn't be worried about you not calling someone out if they ignore you.
hm. ok. dully noted.

im not particularly fond of kevins case on omni and the opposite, omnis case on kevin
icant really see anything coming out of it except omni is acting as he already has been and kevin is posting for once a lot which based off past games when he was scum, is a lot different from what iv seen
kind of interesting why only omni is voting kevin and not the other way around...
kevin, if u think omni is the play - why wont u vote him?
what about kevin's case are you not fond of? what about my response to kevin's case are you not fond of? you've already said that you find his post quality to be different in an earlier post tho i agree this is different. not going to try to meta it tho'.
 

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i originally voted Frozen and then Omis until they finally started speaking. when they did start speaking i removed my votes from them either because i was content with what they were saying and/or i wanted to move on to another inactive.
But why would you want to move to somebody else? Unless you're trying to say that you're content Omis' recent contributions I don't see why you'd want to move on.

i voted chibo out of inactivity for saying he'd catch up, and that he was only halfway through after like a day? i then left my vote on him because i found his initial analysis of the shallow with his selective quoting and responses.

kevin takes top priority because i truly believe he is scum. did you read his reasoning for wanting me to be the play? do you buy it? do you think it's reasonable and/or justified? do you not find his explanations as to why i am the play in the least bit? how were you able to skip past my entire "wtf are you on, kevin, here's why your push on me is weak and nonexistent"? i'd like for you to go through Kevin's new posts and my responses posts and tell me what you think about the exchange.
I don't think Kevin's case is scummy. Not saying that I think he's right about you being the play but his points are more than clear to me. None of it is scummier than Chibo's selective reading [which you accused him earlier of and mentioned it as amajor reason for voting him but you conveniently leave out now] and I don't think anybody can deny it.
Kevin's problem is that at this point of the game he doesn't give a shit about other people agreeing with him, which is why I take his "case" on you with much more than just a grain of salt. More than anybody else Kevin knows that convincing other players is at least 50% of the scumhunting process. As long as that's the case I don't feel the need to agree with him.

But that doesn't mean it's scummy.

i cant be on everyone at once. if you've been paying attention i've been hopping from player to player and applying pressure.
Hopping from player to player - yes.
Applying pressure? Doubtful.

I don't think anybody feels pressured by you in the slightest if a half-assed post like Chibo's is enough to make you unvote and go for the next best player.

And pressuring inactives is a bit of a contradiction - somebody who's not there can hardly be pressured.

what do you mean by this? my mind hasn't changed on anything i've said thus far. id like for you to explain what you mean by this. just because i'm moving over to another player doesn't mean i've forgotten previous people.
You haven't just "moved on". You've literally quit mentioning them alltogether. Omis was a fine wagon for you but as soon as I posted a legitimate reason to vote him it's not worth a mention for you? Your whole concept of "pressure" is either just a charade or completely ineffecive. I don't see any determination, despite anything you said and done so far.

why didn't you say anything about Kevin's case on me at all?
Because I have no issues with it.

Not buying what? Like what am I supposed to stop? Are you gonna start being like Kevin and not communicate clearly?
Heh, that's like the last thing I'm going to be like.

What I don't buy is how you jump into Omni's defense. Just look at the course of actions and tell me it's not weird how Kevin confirms his suspicions against Omni, Omni countervotes and you basically confirm your vote on Kevin and answer to all of his post which is entirely directed at Omni.

And if you're going to say my stuff doesn't look credible you should probably try explaining at least a little bit.
wtfamireading.jpg @ the bolded. Like seriously wtf.
Same request to you. If you have problems with my points of view why don't *you* explain. I also find it interesting that you not only bold Nix's name and your own but also Chaco's - you have any problems with these reads?

Or, to put it in your own words: "Are you gonna start being like Kevin and not communicate clearly?"

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