Lumine Hall - Ness Video and Critique Thread

[Ffamran]

Good lord, this man has his PKF ATs down. He uses pivot PKFS, PK Jumps, DJC PKF, and even managed to use the ever tricky reverse PK Jump. In addition to that, he aims his PKT2 bounces well, tailwhips like a boss, and even closed out the match with a jab lock.

His tech skill is quite impressive, and he's a pretty good player from the looks of it to back it.

I don't know if it's terminalkai playing since I can't read Japanese and can't tell who's who.

 

[Meccs]

Like on Delfino or Halberd: Hit somebody off, chase them offstage with PKT but miss, and loop in under the stage and into yourself when they try to punish you. I get kills like this a decent amount for what it is.

So uh as I was saying. Granted it wasn't baited out but rather on an airdodge that would've led to me getting Dsmashed through the opposite side blast zone on pretty much any other stage, but can work to. It's just the general idea of people not knowing that PKT can travel up through the stage, since it's pretty situational.

 

[Waael]

So uh as I was saying. Granted it wasn't baited out but rather on an airdodge that would've led to me getting Dsmashed through the opposite side blast zone on pretty much any other stage, but can work to. It's just the general idea of people not knowing that PKT can travel up through the stage, since it's pretty situational.

I LOVE KONGO! They banned this stage in Norcal Singles though Its legal in Doubles but damn that was sick,

Also I just looked at you signature. CEENL!! I REMEMBER YOU! :0

 

[Meccs]

I LOVE KONGO! They banned this stage in Norcal Singles though Its legal in Doubles but damn that was sick,

Also I just looked at you signature. CEENL!! I REMEMBER YOU! :0

yeah bruh it's like everyone from Brawl is back

 

[Waael]

yeah bruh it's like everyone from Brawl is back

YES

And I know this is pretty random, my friend made this small mini video without telling me and posted it in the Norcal Smash 4 FB Page, and it is literally the funniest thing:

He titled it: "Waael the Wrestler"

Description: "Because it was too long to for a .gif"

 

[Spiritmonger]

I laughed so hard at the video xD
A newcomer from france is approaching !

 

[Ffamran]

Uploaded today on VGBC, Coney's Ness vs. Logic's Diddy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uByYjlz8HLo.

 

[Noa.]

Shaky's Ness doesn't tend to get recorded, which is a shame because he's one of the Top Ness players in the US. But he went to a tournament over the weekend and some sets got recorded from it. They're pretty fantastic and I suggest that you watch them. I feel like he plays Ness so well. Great uair, dsmash, fthrow, and pk thunder use. It's awesome really.

VS Denti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeqhEv1ec54

VS Megafox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJHa9thy2u4

And the last kill of the first game against Megafox needs to be in the community video @ Waael

 

[Waael]

Shaky's Ness doesn't tend to get recorded, which is a shame because he's one of the Top Ness players in the US. But he went to a tournament over the weekend and some sets got recorded from it. They're pretty fantastic and I suggest that you watch them. I feel like he plays Ness so well. Great uair, dsmash, fthrow, and pk thunder use. It's awesome really.

VS Denti

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeqhEv1ec54

VS Megafox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJHa9thy2u4

And the last kill of the first game against Megafox needs to be in the community video @ Waael

DUDE I REMEMBER SHAKY! I played him back in the Brawl Days, He was one of the few Ness players that went to tournaments. (I didn't go to any back then) He'll remember me as Chrono because that was my brawl tag on Wifi XD And danggggg!

 

[Lukingordex]

The only matches of my Ness that where recorded from Sampex 2:

Vs Sheik -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCB-mzkidi8&list=PLeZlN3aTVYnBc5pvLWvoEGLUMjPWJVKzE&index=4

Vs Pikachu -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVpUZiLRqd8&list=PLeZlN3aTVYnBc5pvLWvoEGLUMjPWJVKzE&index=7

There were a lot of good stuff in the losers bracket but they didn't record, unfortunately.

Feel free to critique.

 

[Meccs]

DUDE I REMEMBER SHAKY! I played him back in the Brawl Days, He was one of the few Ness players that went to tournaments. (I didn't go to any back then) He'll remember me as Chrono because that was my brawl tag on Wifi XD And danggggg!

Shaky vs this MK is my favorite Brawl video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svz6rkvxcWk

 

[Waael]

Shaky vs this MK is my favorite Brawl video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svz6rkvxcWk

That second stock! Man I loved this stage.

 

[PSIBoy]

So I attended a crew battle yesterday and I would like someone to look over my two matches and provide constructive criticism please.

My first match starts off at about 7:47 in the following link (http://www.twitch.tv/smashthemoneyteam/c/6322154) and blends over into part 2 (http://www.twitch.tv/smashthemoneyteam/c/6322159). My second match begins at 7:05 in part 2 since let's just say there's several minutes between the end of my first match and the beginning of my second.

 

[Galaxian]

http://www.twitch.tv/evenmatchupgaming/v/3930600

25:49

I played against MeekSpeedy's Sonic. I did get 2-0'd this set and this was the only time I played Ness but any criticism would be nice.

I know I didn't do so hot though. His Sonic was all over the place, pls help

 

[Ffamran]

From a Puerto Rican scene and from Team Ragnarok, Flash's Ness vs. Fyrox's Captain Falcon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKFBJ8MWlZ0.

Flash's Ness vs. Syko's Larry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_LY29xhCxk.

@zCyRo's Ness, Meta Knight, and Falco vs. @pawclaw's Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGbq3O1bwt4.

Edit: From 590kazu, Ness vs. Pit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO2aoCLgD5g.

Edit 2: Edit Harder: Thank @Gamegenie222. It's Shaky's Ness vs. Mew2King's Diddy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSIfAKtSi7A.

 

[Luco]

From a Puerto Rican scene and from Team Ragnarok, Flash's Ness vs. Fyrox's Captain Falcon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKFBJ8MWlZ0.

Flash's Ness vs. Syko's Larry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_LY29xhCxk.

@zCyRo's Ness, Meta Knight, and Falco vs. @pawclaw's Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGbq3O1bwt4.

Edit: From 590kazu, Ness vs. Pit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO2aoCLgD5g.

Edit 2: Edit Harder: Thank @Gamegenie222. It's Shaky's Ness vs. Mew2King's Diddy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSIfAKtSi7A.

Ahh perfect, that Edit 2 was what I mentioned in the main thread, it's so much fun to watch.

 

[NorCal_DSS]

Hey everyone. I forgot to post this when it happened two weeks ago, but here you go. This is from a tournament on March 14th.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sH0SnAH15M

37:11 DSS vs Apologyman (Villager) in Loser Semis
49:10 DSS vs Sean (Diddy) in Loser Finals
1:00:01 DSS vs X (Diddy) in Grand Finals

 

[Meccs]

http://www.twitch.tv/gameunderground/b/641098603
Here's some matches from last week, starting at 1:19. I play a set against Villager, and then a set against Diddy/Ganon.

At 0:30 is my set against Bloodcross. Got a gimp to start it off then proceeded to get the sh*t beat out of me.

I need to use a lot more jab, and use dtilt more (at all). As always, criticism appreciated.

 

[Omni]

I swear this works like 99% of the time.

 

[Meccs]

Okay so here are a couple sets of me vs. two of the top players in NE:

http://www.twitch.tv/gameunderground/b/647178569
at 5:30 is my set against Bloodcross' Toon Link in Winners semis
at 29:00 is my set against Dissent's Diddy Kong in Winners finals.
at 1:16:00 is my set against Bloodcross' Fox in Losers' finals.

Critique welcomed as always.

 

[MrTeddyBear]

I found a video of the most recent Umebura (12) in Japan that happened a while ago, where the top players in Japan usually participate in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdDsWx3KC-E
Here's Rain playing as Diddy (top Diddy in Japan, has beaten players like Choco and Nietono before) vs Fsann playing as Ness (probably the best Ness in Japan imo).

Here's a link to the full bracket if anyone's interested:
http://smashboards.com/rankings/umebura-12-smash-wii-u-singles-bracket.4388/event

 

[Funen1]

I found a video of the most recent Umebura (12) in Japan that happened a while ago, where the top players in Japan usually participate in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdDsWx3KC-E
Here's Rain playing as Diddy (top Diddy in Japan, has beaten players like Choco and Nietono before) vs Fsann playing as Ness (probably the best Ness in Japan imo).

Here's a link to the full bracket if anyone's interested:
http://smashboards.com/rankings/umebura-12-smash-wii-u-singles-bracket.4388/event

That Game 3 ended up a lot closer than I would've expected, given how long Rain kept Fsann on the back foot at the start. That jab lock technology was real though.

 

[Lukingordex]

Just posting those Money Matches I had recently (before patch)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iERIU7wsAOg (vs. Diddy)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaFIvmDNmD4 (vs. Ness)

 

[Lukingordex]

Since this thread has been inactive for 10 days, I'll double post.

Here's my Ness matches from the last Tourney I attended:

Vs Pikachu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSK_daMBcTM&index=6&list=PLeZlN3aTVYnDS1c0ALZ7q6fCQZ3NMDqx7

Vs another Pikachu and Ness
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2O02dCShow&list=PLeZlN3aTVYnDS1c0ALZ7q6fCQZ3NMDqx7&index=9

Vs Sheik (only the first match)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDA2g4a6npg&index=11&list=PLeZlN3aTVYnDS1c0ALZ7q6fCQZ3NMDqx7

Vs Captain Falcon and Sheik ( 2nd, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th matches)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDA2g4a6npg&index=11&list=PLeZlN3aTVYnDS1c0ALZ7q6fCQZ3NMDqx7

Please critique.

 

[kennypu]

Fsann (top ness in Japan) vs m2k (diddy)

 

[Earthboundy]

I was on CT!

Even though I got bodied, I was so happy to be on Stream. I'd love feedback.

 

[Vinylic.]

FOW released a post commentary on his match vs Mew2King.

 

[ss3katen]

Japanese ness getting these off level PK fires in. https://youtu.be/OXr81ojrMK0

 

[Lukingordex]

Japanese ness getting these off level PK fires in. https://youtu.be/OXr81ojrMK0

asians

That's the VERY definition of 20XX I have no words to describe how bad I felt I am by watching this.

 

[ss3katen]

asians

That's the VERY definition of 20XX I have no words to describe how bad I felt I am by watching this.

Yeah, pretty crazy ****. Definitely some options I'd never really thought of. Back to the lab for me

 

[Ignorance]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/81qeirug4uszjbt/VID_20150511_194537.mp4?dl=0
Critique my Ness, please

 

[Greward]

I started playing Ness recently and I would love any kind of critique you can give me.

vs Sheik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im0MjiSPxl8#t=6m48s

 

[SuperTorn]

Some Ness dittos on for glory, it was awesome. I'm blue capped Ness btw I didn't play well, I was laughing too much throughout the matches to pay legit attention lmao

 

[EnhaloTricks]

hey guys! I'm in an online tournament on a guitar website I'm part of. This was in the losers semis, and I'm now up for losers finals and after possibly true semis.

in the vid I play as duck hunt and ness. Ness being my main. Any critiques?

also, there are some obvious things (like the ridiculous PKT2 slide to death) that I already know not to do again haha

hope you guys enjoy!

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4sKOdUi7ZoA

 

[Meccs]

http://www.twitch.tv/avgl/v/5262311
Skip to 1 hour 16 min.
Please help. I got grabbed like a billion times. That is the biggest problem I have. Getting back to the stage safely from the ledge, and avoiding grabs.
The first match is good, tho.

 

[yoshi8984]

I need help with the Sonic & Kirby MUs lol. Latter I don't know too well tbh, former is like practically impossible.
I also had some PKT2 mishaps when I tried going for the ledge as well lol.

Set 1

Set 2 (Grand Finals)
^I'm so mad over how I choked at the end... I did F-Tilt by accident and that set the stage for me to be KO'd

==

On a side note, my friend Kels here is one of, if not THE best Sonic in Canada and has a pretty damn good Kirby and she's always beaten me in Brawl so I'm not surprised she beat me again. Although it was surprising I beat her twice in GFs, guess I somehow learned Kirby (tho I did learn how good Fair can be for walling him).

Also sometimes commentary gets loud and silly so lower the volume for your sake. xD
In fact they call my PK Thunder the snail and that's kind of what I'm known for in the community.

 

[iNvaZion]

Seeing lots of useful information/ videos on this thread. Thank guys. I really want to improve as Ness. Check out these matches and let me know any advice you would give

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[Lukingordex]

Seeing lots of useful information/ videos on this thread. Thank guys. I really want to improve as Ness. Check out these matches and let me know any advice you would give

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Be careful, at 0:30, you did something extremely risk, if Pit had capitalized that, he could have gimped you with his Down B.

You're using PK thunder onstage at moments you shouldn't be using it and is being punished for it. The only times you should use it onstage is if your opponent is above you so you can juggle him or as an edgeguard tool. If you want to do something risky but with very high reward, you can PK thunder while your opponent is really close to you. He will be hit with the hitbox from the frames when pk thunder doesn't disappear and you can try to PK thunder 2 his face.

I also noticed you're not punishing the other player properly. I saw a lot of opportunities being wasted because you either tried to Fsmash him, dash attacked his shield or rolled away from him.

You're wasting good edgeguard opportunities, examples of that are in 0:08, 0:16 and 2:56.

I didn't saw you using PSI magnet to absorb Pit's arrows. You don't need to be afraid of doing that because you can use Magnet cancel, a Ness' AT that let's you cancel PSI magnet into a Jump, a backwards roll or a spotdodge if you do it right after absorving a projectile.

 

[Bartolon]

Ok guys, here are some sets I played from JST past weekend!

Vs J.Miller :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BbLxeWUPyM

Vs Ixis :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4unFSosrxX8

He put me into losers 1-2

Vs Mr.R :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAGaLE1xDSM

I've played alot with him so I understand the matchup, I kind of dropped the ball 1st game, 2nd game didn't feel that solid either, felt like I got more in my groove the 3rd game but oh well.

The crew battle also has some footage of me starting from: https://youtu.be/-VqtO0q0ZEU?t=20m1s

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

http://www.twitch.tv/rocketsgamecorner/v/5596075?t=25m39s

check out this match I came back in