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Social Lucario Social: Aura Dog Days of Summer
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MythTrainerInfinity
Smash Champion
Needs a 23% Aura Sphere to beat the early Monkey Kick (14%) aka fresh, same stock Aura Sphere at 128%.
Croi
Smash Lord
I could.
The misconception we're trying to clear is that Flip Kick cannot ever be beaten, not strictly when it can be beaten.
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MythTrainerInfinity
Smash Champion
"I'm always 3 steps ahead."
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RT
Smash Hero
I think it's stupid that Monkey Kick has such high priority in the first place, regardless of what shenanigans are going on. A command grab that can be changed into a high-priority attack on a dime...what kind of balance...
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BugCatcherWill
Smash Ace
Eeveecario
Smash Apprentice
You have to challenge AS with Diddy's Side-B sweetspot (early) hitbox. You we're doing it too soon.https://youtu.be/-IQCN8O_5-k
According to @Kami~ (according to @ChileZeRo), Diddy's Flip Kick attack will always beat Aura Sphere no matter what.
OR WILL IT.
EDIT: Actually, nvm. I'm not getting it anymore. Maybe I did something wrong last time
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elusiveTranscendent
Smash Lord
Eeveecario
Smash Apprentice
OK, tested seriously this time, and apparently Diddy's Side-B kick applies as every other normal hitbox.
Diddy failed to trade after AS dealt 23% dmg (130% both), but was able to challenge it on 22% dmg (124% both). Maybe last time I got confused and I was during respawn invincibility. My bad
Diddy failed to trade after AS dealt 23% dmg (130% both), but was able to challenge it on 22% dmg (124% both). Maybe last time I got confused and I was during respawn invincibility. My bad
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Croi
Smash Lord
glith10
Smash Cadet
How powerful is a full aura Lucario? Iv'e been thinking about picking him up.
MythTrainerInfinity
Smash Champion
Enough to KO the entire cast in 2 (or even 1) hits.
http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Lucario I recommend familiarizing yourself with this.
http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Lucario I recommend familiarizing yourself with this.
Croi
Smash Lord
What does a character have to do to have maximum recovery, according to kuroganehammer?
Any Lucario's online right now with a game handy?
Croi
Smash Lord
It's 3 in the morning on NA east coast.
It's 5 pm here, I care not for your timezones! 
It was about Aura damage multiplier.
It was about Aura damage multiplier.
Steam
Smash Hero
Hello, I'm alive
Pitbuller26
Smash Lord
Define "alive".
MythTrainerInfinity
Smash Champion
If it is about the Aura multiplier for stocks I am about 70% sure it is handled exactly or very similarly in comparison to Brawl. I am not home, so I cannot test anything until after work. What would you like to know? You've provided a lot of delicious data that I have been finding some new combos with, so we'll be happy to help ya.It's 5 pm here, I care not for your timezones!
It was about Aura damage multiplier.
Grizzlpaw
Rawr~ ♪
Think of ganondorf with twice the knockback, better frame data, and an extremely powerful projectile.
Alternatively, when you're at 190%+, imagine your opponent starts off each fresh stock with around 80%
it was about making a table for aura damage multipliers for every say, 5% lucario has
Croi
Smash Lord
So how are our MU discussions working out?
smbmaster99MFGG
Smash Apprentice
I JUST WON MY FIRST EVER SMASH BROS TOURNAMENT THE AURA IS WITH ME
Will upload videos later...I need to go deflate or something for now haha
Will upload videos later...I need to go deflate or something for now haha
Steam
Smash Hero
My computer died so I can't do them for awhile. :<
Nysyr
Smash Journeyman
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ZSS -2
Fox/Sheik -1
Everything else doesn't matter tbh, just character sub forums bickering.
BugCatcherWill
Smash Ace
You guys are forgetting Ness
Seriously, **** that stupid character -_-
Seriously, **** that stupid character -_-
smbmaster99MFGG
Smash Apprentice
A good Ness is definitely no fun to fight 
Can reflect and absorb both FP and AS
Can reflect and absorb both FP and AS
MythTrainerInfinity
Smash Champion
Get Ness offstage. Why not make that your primary objective when fighting him?
RT
Smash Hero
Let someone take over temporarily.
Croi
Smash Lord
Serious question, by the way.
Auramaniji
Roasted!
Hi again I guess.
Timbah
Smash Cadet
- Joined
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Be villager.
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Nysyr
Smash Journeyman
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Mmm... Fox lost JabJabJabJabJab...Insert-Smash on us, and we can pretty safely stay in shield on him. If there was .5 increments I'd say Sheik is -1.5; tbh it's probably closer to -2 when facing the top Sheik players.
If you really feel Fox is -2 after patch, then I guess we could settle for that; I just don't think he's got the free win on us after that loss.
It's basically these 3 characters that **** on us because they don't actually have to play in a disadvantaged state, or have a ******** tool against us, like reflector.
On that note I might put Villager at -1, but I haven't seen any good Villagers. Pocket is pretty stupid and so are his disjointed/fast aerials.
Edit: On a side note, after seeing Kami's matches against that Mario, it's fairly obvious just how detrimental the downwards momentum cancelling property of DAir being lost from Brawl affected the move; the second hit whiffs so much and the first hit has almost no hitstun.
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