Lost Mafia - Who won? - The viewing audience of course

[Chaco]

I didn't want to out any potential asset to town without full consent from the players involved. But as you will.

N1 Kevin visited no one.
N2 J visited Auspher.
And N3 Kata visited J.

 

[Chaco]

Also EE I did report N1, it was in the initial text of the post that was reporting my actions.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

That mass claim I mentioned? J goes at the top of the list.

 

[Chaco]

Holy **** I just realized I might be ****ing ********. Vote: J For some reason it didn't click with me that Jerkus[J]/Gorf scumteam was truly that likely from N1, however, I could definitely see it. Now, actually thinking about it, J has to be roleblocker most likely. Likelihood of anyone else visiting Auspher on N2 is near 0, J would definitely pick up on it, and since Gorf was still alive, it definitely makes sense.

Pile on, Bros.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I wasn't going to say that directly in thread until AFTER he claimed, but yeah, you got the right idea.

Vote J


Mass claim remains a good idea ESPECIALLY since we probably have the roleblocker.

 

[Chaco]

Sorry, been up all night, sick, and wasn't putting to much though out there.

Anyways, I am in full support of the mass claim, naturally.

 

[Chaco]

Thinking about*

 

[Kataefi]

vote: j

i'm in favour of a massclaim fwiw. i want to be one of the earlier ones.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I'm fine with not claiming after EE and Laundry, but I want to DEFINITELY go after all of the nulls that haven't been here.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

vote: J

this game y'all

 

[Tandora]

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Frozenflame: (2) Asdioh, Evil Eye
J: (3) Ryker, Kataefi, Washed Laundry

Not voting: (6) Dooms, DtJ Glyphmoney, frozenflame751, Auspher, J, Chaco

Deadline is January 16th, 11:59 PM EST.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Why I think he was scummy I can't tell you and I'd have to go back and look at the posts. I've got five games running together at the moment. I am PERFECTLY fine with tracker going now.

Can you? In hindsight, there were a few people banging down the scumGorf door D1 and of them, but you're the only one who seemed to be smashing on it without really giving a good reason why.

There has been no mafia motivated kill yet which is absolute balls. Something is up with this set-up or I will eat my ****ing foot. Laundry knows how serious a commitment that is.

/sagenod

EE/Laundry, what say you to a mass claim? I am in favor.

At this point we need something to work with. Chaco's already out there, as are Auspher and Asidoh, but considering scum aren't killing the townie players, getting something out of the sea of nulls would be fantastic.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

p.s. i still want asidoh to test his hammer inabilities.

 

[Evil Eye]

Oh my ****ing God, so J[erkus] really were scum.

I really wish tandora didn't replace Jerkus because I don't think there's a chance in hell he wasn't getting lynched without J coming in there. Instead we got that stupid unhelpful RR ****.

Never going to betray my gut again after this game.

frozenflame's still a scumbuddy.

Checkin' votecount.

 

[Evil Eye]

I guess I'm down with a massclaim, though waiting until after we kill the presumable bad guy in J could be advantageous.

Unvote Vote: J

 

[Deleted member]

vote: J

Here's hoping he flips scum.

 

[Dooms]

Hammer or no?

 

[Tandora]

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch!

Frozenflame: (1) Asdioh
J: (5) Ryker, Kataefi, Washed Laundry, Evil Eye, Aushper

Not voting: (5) Dooms, DtJ Glyphmoney, frozenflame751, J, Chaco

Deadline is January 16th, 11:59 PM EST.

 

[Evil Eye]

Well, we're still talking about mass claims right now.

Unvote

Chaco what is your character.

 

[Asdioh]

I'm also masoned with Ryker and have mod-confirmed information that J is scum.

called it

hasn't J been really absent from this game lately, as well?

 

[Evil Eye]

Hugely. Which is funny, because the only things that happened D3 were me calling frozen out with my big muscles and Gorf's lynch

 

[Chaco]

Kate Austen

 

[Evil Eye]

Kay. Now paraphrase the flavor of your role PM brah. Why are you what you are what're you doin' yadda yadda.

By the way, I'm headed out soon and I'll have no internet for abouttttt.... just over 24 hours? Sometime tomorrow night is when I'll be back. Since it looks like everybody's weekending it up, I just want to make sure y'all don't end the Day while I'm gone or nothin'. Think I wanna use some of this Day time to do another reread with mostly-confirmed scumJ in mind.

I wonder if J's gonna claim protective instead of frozen now, or if frozen's gonna hold that card to attempt to become endgame-worthy

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Can you? In hindsight, there were a few people banging down the scumGorf door D1 and of them, but you're the only one who seemed to be smashing on it without really giving a good reason why.

Honestly, I could tell you if I reread the game, but I'm not gonna unless I'm forced to or F&L and something end. I did pick up something that I thought was damning, but I remember watching his play as the day went on and deciding to sit on him for the day because there were an infinite amount of things to worry about. You'll see that I stopped messing with him when I made that decision.

Then he had an FBI Agent guilty and matching flavor.

 

[Evil Eye]

Yo Ryker. You feelin Gorf/J/frozen for the complete package?

 

[Evil Eye]

Continuing from above, something I forgot to mention yesterDay (I think) is worth bringing up. We were talking about how it was looking like Gorf was anticipating a scumzenflame flip and maneuvering for his next play. What I forgot to suggest yesterday was the likelihood that Gorf was setting himself up as the endgamer.

Think about it. Gorf had claimed FBI and handed us Gheb with a bow on his head. His play was well-manufactured to look equal shades confident and calm. If frozen and J are scum, Gorf is as close to safe for endgame as this underperforming faction is going to get. Since a lot of people were biting their tongues as far as Gorf goes, they may have even thought he was in the clear.

So frozen's in the spotlight, Gorf joins the wagon after I've laid out my frozen case, and it's a damn good one imo, very unlikely to be ignored, especially with how dogged I get about sure reads. Gorf speculates on alignments re: frozen's flip after this has transpired. My initial and superficial analysis of a play scumzenflame might have been making (looking for people to get in J and Glyph's face on his behalf) is brought up by Gorf and then turned on the side, suggesting scumJ. This lets Gorf effectively take the credit for that.

Most crucially, though -- with frozen looking like the 100% positive lynch, there's no actual commitment to this analysis by Gorf. Anything could have happened in the Night and during the events of the next Day. Just look at how Laundry absolutely should've been lynched D1 in Pulp Fiction, but somehow weaseled out of it. If they played it right, they could've had J slinking out of the spotlight like a sneaky cockroach while Gorf shouts at us for not listening him. J gets caught eventually and dies, or we finally "listen to reason" and follow Gorf on the lynch. This, in addition to Gorf taking my frozenflame case to heart and Gorf's claim + bingo freebie lynch, would almost assuredly lead people to believe he was obvtown. Especially with a few of the better townies dead by then.

And then it's GG scum wins Gorf for MVP.


I know this is reaching so far ahead it's basically crystal ball analysis but I really, really feel like this is what was happening. I feel it in my bones.

 

[Evil Eye]

ohi g lyfe do things

answer laundry's thing

comment on massclaim

**** like that

maybe some of your own things if you like

 

[Evil Eye]

Four man scumteam is also possible. Better bad guy ratio (just under 1/3) for the apparent number of power roles and investigatives, and Gheb is BP so adding more manpower to the scumteam doesn't harm the SK slot much.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Should be back on Monday 100%, was SUPPOSED to get my new laptop today but fedex is a super-bro and decided it was too hard to deliver stuff to me.

I'm all for a mass claim, and J lynch. I'm on a desktop atm but likely won't be for long

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Yo Ryker. You feelin Gorf/J/frozen for the complete package?

Four man scumteam is also possible. Better bad guy ratio (just under 1/3) for the apparent number of power roles and investigatives, and Gheb is BP so adding more manpower to the scumteam doesn't harm the SK slot much.

That^

You get three scum in a 12-13 man.

 

[Evil Eye]

Four-man team makes the scenario I discussed with Gorf look a lot more likely too. Far less is thrown to the wind or risked on making him the stallion when J might wriggle out of it and if there's another mafiat in the periphery.

 

[Evil Eye]

So yeah, I should say:

You feelin' Gorf/J/frozen/??? for complete package?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I would put money on that and I would probably put money on Kat being the last one.

 

[Evil Eye]

Wanna tell me what you think Kat is, or let him claim first?

What do you make of Kat saying he wants to be the first to claim?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

If there's 3 town investigatives, then the set-up is insane. I see no reason for a town aligned role to be targeting J unless they're an investigative. I'd guess Tailor or some mafia protective.

 

[Evil Eye]

Can't be a tailor. Auspher's getting roleblocked.

 

[Evil Eye]

a wild J appears


okay guys I'll be back tomorrow don't do anything stupid

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Can't be a tailor. Auspher's getting roleblocked.

That's true. I'm stuck for more support roles, but I'm even more stuck for a town role that makes sense.

 

[Asdioh]

Town Ghost Commander

 

[Chaco]

Paraphrasing:

I was on the flight due to the suspected murder of my father. After the crash, I used the madness as a means to escape the ****. I care deeply for my friends, and am deep down a lovely person. I've also proven to be quite adept at following tracks that people make.