#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Going from tablet to comp right now. Typed up a post with what I think may be up at like three but wanted to wait for a full claim.
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#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
I gotta fill in the whole "he hasn't full claimed yet" part right now since he... HAS, and it goes along with my thought process:
K, so I was thinking, and I can really see one of two reasons why Ausupher got a "not a survivor" on me. Unfortunately without flavour I can't really determine whether Ausupher's (I can only assume this is cop >.<) insane/random or not, so until a full claim comes through there's not much I can do upon that idea, but with the game being about Lost it's quite likely. BUT, look at the following quote:
The only thing I can really think of doing, as far as proving the role/finding out about the role, would probably be to have Auspher cop Asdioh who's psudeo cleared again after this hammer shindig goes down and see what the results are for him.
K, so I was thinking, and I can really see one of two reasons why Ausupher got a "not a survivor" on me. Unfortunately without flavour I can't really determine whether Ausupher's (I can only assume this is cop >.<) insane/random or not, so until a full claim comes through there's not much I can do upon that idea, but with the game being about Lost it's quite likely. BUT, look at the following quote:
Auspher had a SINIFICANTLY fair amount of posts similar to these saying that's he's better D2, or that we just shouldn't lynch him because we need him, essentially just variants of the above quote. When I read posts like these, and when they started coming more and more, two possibilities came into my head: the thought of him being mafia and his scummates having him play the "there's no way scum would POSSIBLY play this dense" card, or the thought of him really thinking that he was slick in hiding a possible PR. The latter seemed really unlikely, because I remember when I got doc as a noob town I wanted to make sure that I wouldn't do anything to get that exposed... It's just common sense really. And that's A LOT of the reason why I've been so vehement on Ausupher scum. BUT, seeing how he's claiming, I'm thinking it's VERY LIKELY that there are some somebodies on the scum team that had a major PR vibe from that as well, and could have very well tampered with the investigation. Of course this is totally left up to speculation, what I'm confident about is that that guilty is totally wrong.
The only thing I can really think of doing, as far as proving the role/finding out about the role, would probably be to have Auspher cop Asdioh who's psudeo cleared again after this hammer shindig goes down and see what the results are for him.
#HBC | Laundry
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welp
smells like bull**** to me.
smells like bull**** to me.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
K, so Auspher claimed Sawyer, and seeing how Sawyer ended up a cop, it's obvious that it's not something that can really be disproven. But, Auspher mentioned something interesting when he was detailing his flavour reasoning: Something about him being an ex con, so he should be a good cop. Seeing how Sawyer's main story IS his being a con, I can most def see a Sawyer town cop being insane, and something that can very well be tested. Both situations still stand as very probable, and we can totes benefit from finding out what kind of cop he is.
Ultimately, as far as play goes, I don't feel that mine in and of itself is condemning, and I feel that Auspher very well left himself open D1 to get manipulated like crazy, but copping somebody like Asdioh to prove sanity is essentially the most viable thing... to me at least.
Ultimately, as far as play goes, I don't feel that mine in and of itself is condemning, and I feel that Auspher very well left himself open D1 to get manipulated like crazy, but copping somebody like Asdioh to prove sanity is essentially the most viable thing... to me at least.
So he's counterpushing a gigaWIFOM case based on bad-town-nulltells. I don't think the fact that I was expressing potential suspicion of Ausu at the time is a coincidence, either.
Nor do I see the value in posting an old post.
Nor do I see the value in posting an old post.
Old AND outdated*** that is.
Ninja'd.
Ninja'd.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Woah. You read that in three minutes O.o?
#HBC | Laundry
Grand Sage of Swag
Points to sanity and calls it into question, typical response.
Wait. Wait.
Above you pointed out the possibility of him being insane/paranoid. Did this drop off a cliff because you assume that the even less likely scenario of scum accurately pegging him as cop (amongst a billion other PRs) and just so happening to have a role that counters cop that isn't the RB? Uh.
If he flips town, I wouldn't be against Auspher doing this.
Looks like Gorf is positing (wait for it)
the MAFIA COCKMONGLER!
the MAFIA COCKMONGLER!
#HBC | Laundry
Grand Sage of Swag
Which is it? Varying sanities or getting manipulated by scum? You're leaving two routes open here.
#HBC | Laundry
Grand Sage of Swag
that too. It's pointless to bring up something from D1 that doesn't even incriminate someone.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
If I were to think it was one, I'd most likely go with the latter, but both possibilities seem really likely in my head.
Are you saying people just say things like "Lynch me and town's screwed" on a regular basis?Laundry said:
#HBC | Laundry
Grand Sage of Swag
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
@Asdioh definitely typed up the defense after catching up when I got home from school. Oh yea plus I was reading sporatically in school.
#HBC | Laundry
Grand Sage of Swag
Are you saying that scrubtownies facing a ****ton of pressure would say anything else if they were the cop and didn't know how to get out of it without claiming?
did you get that gif from tery or something? i remember seeing (him?) post it one time and then I saved it because lol.
then i deleted it because i was like "why do i have this?"
Yeah, Gorf can go.
Test it with Asdioh's vote as we do it.
Test it with Asdioh's vote as we do it.
#HBC | Laundry
Grand Sage of Swag
Never delete an image unless it's broken Asidoh. That **** always has some nominal value if you do it right.
What Ryker said.
What Ryker said.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
You call his pressure a ****ton of pressure?Laundry said:
#HBC | Laundry
Grand Sage of Swag
You expect newbies to know the difference?
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
Yea yea yea I'm **** out of luck. But hey Chaco's tracker just thought I'd let you guys know.
PEACE NIGGZ.
#HBC | Laundry
Grand Sage of Swag
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
The amazing thing is after saying this I got em. TOOOOOOO GOOD.
how confusing =/
late entrance is late. fashionably late
Unvote
Vote: Gorf
trigger needs pulling. someone hammer him (that's what... 5?) 2 more... *drum roll*
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So many things can be speculated atm... confusion levels are upping for me. So we’re dealing with unclear fates? – my thoughts are it could imply janitor but they typically disguise flips on death… Considering the OP doesn’t explicitly list gone players as being in the dead pool there’s of course the possibility of other roles taking effect - even a return to the game but this opens up another can of worms.
1 less SK 1 less kill the following Night could imply Gheb lied and did target N1 but if this were to be true again why would both mentoskev flip unclearly? Could be a life-lock / could be roles that inherently disguise (e.g. something like FF7 redux poisoner) / could be that gheb was telling the truth and one “kill” occurred / could be that gheb lied and both “kills” hit the same target triggering the life-lock etc etc. This is a tricky situation to read – I’m not one to rely on early speculation until the bigger picture. I was thinking the second option and that lynching Gheb would include the possibility of opening up the flavour for information but this never happened and now Rajam’s gone with a similar fate…
...Assuming the kill was scum --> an issue I can see in Rajam’s case is the manner in which he honed in on Frozen D2 which could have suggested some predisposing cause... anyone else see this?... A role? A result? A read? It felt almost out of character on D2 for someone who looked like he was prancing around asking questions D1. I don’t know. Rajam was quite perceptive to me =/ This is a possibility I've considered as to why he was picked. I think it could also stand he was rolecopped / stalked / reported / tracked / whatever etc etc but even then if this possibility is considered this would have been around the D/N1 period... I don’t know why he would be chosen to be targeted over other players... didn't strike me as very threatening ?? Perhaps an underlying dislike/vibe. a few things are opening up here for me but I want Gorf's flip
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It’s just an issue of comfort - not to be captain common sense here... but I could instead be lurking as a guest while logged off to avoid this type of meta against me considering I’ve been called on it twice already… (I’d also play a pretty… penny… the current 2 guests here with me show a better fear of being caught lurking (lol)).
where did you get the bolded from?
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D2 felt dry. Gheb was an easy lynch. I do agree with everyone Frozen should die. Using gheb as a proxy killer was just a no no... what is this i don't even I got the same impression from Asdioh’s “come on guyz only 1 Day” mentality as well because it looks opportunistic... "only.... one... more" tc etc. really... it is always better to be safe than sorry in the end.
Felt like an effective vs efficient argument concerning asidoh and his passion to take it up with people more intimately. I can expound on this but I think people beat me to the punch. Frozen just dropped in and seemingly nudged the cookie jar... the only thing that irks me here is that i don't understand why he would consider suggesting his plan in the first place because it was obviously dangerous? He should be prodded.
Frozen/[Chaco/J]
^currently my head's here. there is little to work with.
@EE: can you be clear as to why you thought specifically the vehemance point was a bad point from Asidoh?
late entrance is late. fashionably late
Unvote
Vote: Gorf
trigger needs pulling. someone hammer him (that's what... 5?) 2 more... *drum roll*
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So many things can be speculated atm... confusion levels are upping for me. So we’re dealing with unclear fates? – my thoughts are it could imply janitor but they typically disguise flips on death… Considering the OP doesn’t explicitly list gone players as being in the dead pool there’s of course the possibility of other roles taking effect - even a return to the game but this opens up another can of worms.
1 less SK 1 less kill the following Night could imply Gheb lied and did target N1 but if this were to be true again why would both mentoskev flip unclearly? Could be a life-lock / could be roles that inherently disguise (e.g. something like FF7 redux poisoner) / could be that gheb was telling the truth and one “kill” occurred / could be that gheb lied and both “kills” hit the same target triggering the life-lock etc etc. This is a tricky situation to read – I’m not one to rely on early speculation until the bigger picture. I was thinking the second option and that lynching Gheb would include the possibility of opening up the flavour for information but this never happened and now Rajam’s gone with a similar fate…
...Assuming the kill was scum --> an issue I can see in Rajam’s case is the manner in which he honed in on Frozen D2 which could have suggested some predisposing cause... anyone else see this?... A role? A result? A read? It felt almost out of character on D2 for someone who looked like he was prancing around asking questions D1. I don’t know. Rajam was quite perceptive to me =/ This is a possibility I've considered as to why he was picked. I think it could also stand he was rolecopped / stalked / reported / tracked / whatever etc etc but even then if this possibility is considered this would have been around the D/N1 period... I don’t know why he would be chosen to be targeted over other players... didn't strike me as very threatening ?? Perhaps an underlying dislike/vibe. a few things are opening up here for me but I want Gorf's flip
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^well it would change if the game takes priority over my salaryYou've been reading all morning and didn't say a peep.
And you say the "I'll blank blank [time interval]" thing a lot too yet rarely act on it.
So change that
It’s just an issue of comfort - not to be captain common sense here... but I could instead be lurking as a guest while logged off to avoid this type of meta against me considering I’ve been called on it twice already… (I’d also play a pretty… penny… the current 2 guests here with me show a better fear of being caught lurking (lol)).where did you get the bolded from?
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D2 felt dry. Gheb was an easy lynch. I do agree with everyone Frozen should die. Using gheb as a proxy killer was just a no no... what is this i don't even
I got the same impression from Asdioh’s “come on guyz only 1 Day” mentality as well because it looks opportunistic... "only.... one... more" tc etc. really... it is always better to be safe than sorry in the end.Felt like an effective vs efficient argument concerning asidoh and his passion to take it up with people more intimately. I can expound on this but I think people beat me to the punch. Frozen just dropped in and seemingly nudged the cookie jar... the only thing that irks me here is that i don't understand why he would consider suggesting his plan in the first place because it was obviously dangerous? He should be prodded.
Frozen/[Chaco/J]
^currently my head's here. there is little to work with.
@EE: can you be clear as to why you thought specifically the vehemance point was a bad point from Asidoh?
If Auspher had claimed his guilty on Gorf yesterDay, we could have kept Gheb alive D2 and had an extra flip up
Kataefi's posting style is weird, but I'm sure that's been commented on before.
Kataefi, I take it you want to lynch FF toMorrow upon a Gorf scumflip, yes?
Kataefi's posting style is weird, but I'm sure that's been commented on before.
Kataefi, I take it you want to lynch FF toMorrow upon a Gorf scumflip, yes?
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Vote count:
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
frozenflame: (2) Glyphmoney, Gorf
Gorf: (5) Auspher, Ryker, Dooms, Washed Laundry, Kataefi
Not voting: (5) DtJ frozenflame751, Evil Eye, J, Chaco, Asdioh
Deadline is January 16th, 11:59 PM EST.
AT WHOEVER ASKED ME TO UPDATE THE OP, WHICH PART? I'm not sure what your request is for.
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
frozenflame: (2) Glyphmoney, Gorf
Gorf: (5) Auspher, Ryker, Dooms, Washed Laundry, Kataefi
Not voting: (5) DtJ frozenflame751, Evil Eye, J, Chaco, Asdioh
Deadline is January 16th, 11:59 PM EST.
AT WHOEVER ASKED ME TO UPDATE THE OP, WHICH PART? I'm not sure what your request is for.
For the record, FrozenFlame is online on League of Legends.
#HBC | Laundry
Grand Sage of Swag
Not necessarily. Had Gorf claimed FBI Agent and Auspher shown up and claimed his guilty on Gorf, D2 could've gone a lot differently and Gheb would probably still be here.If Auspher had claimed his guilty on Gorf yesterDay, we could have kept Gheb alive D2 and had an extra flip up
#HBC | Laundry
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I'm willing to bet both.
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vote: gorf
What's that put him at? Still want dibs on hammer. Head is full of madden right now and I like to imagine gorf getting crushinated between sam shields and clay matthews when I make my vote. No homo. Only broken bones.
@Kat: Yeah don't salary john with me bub. I've got **** to do like seven days a week, and the point is that you promise to make time for the game and don't. Especially considering most of those posts promise "when I get home...", which never seems to happen so now I'm assuming you're sleeping under your desk and brush your teeth with plant water.
I don't think you're scum per se, but it would be nice to get you out of null. Not johning would be a good start.
Anyways frozenflame's still gotta die.
Also **** you gorf and your ****ing WIFOM. Regardless I'm p sure Chaco is town as a result of that WIFOM cyclone, but I'll have to look at the bit where they were getting in each other's faces more, I guess.
@Kat: Yeah don't salary john with me bub. I've got **** to do like seven days a week, and the point is that you promise to make time for the game and don't. Especially considering most of those posts promise "when I get home...", which never seems to happen so now I'm assuming you're sleeping under your desk and brush your teeth with plant water.
I don't think you're scum per se, but it would be nice to get you out of null. Not johning would be a good start.
Anyways frozenflame's still gotta die.
Also **** you gorf and your ****ing WIFOM. Regardless I'm p sure Chaco is town as a result of that WIFOM cyclone, but I'll have to look at the bit where they were getting in each other's faces more, I guess.
oh whoas was that acid dough's fake hammer already?
we in this ****
we in this ****