Lost Mafia - Who won? - The viewing audience of course

[#HBC | Gorf]

Dude I have that problem all the time with... The t word.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

**** me, but Joey goes on the shooting list too.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Is that boobs-fun-variant me, or the-f-word me Ryker? We gotta settle this once and for all.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm sorry that I'm not absolutely hilarious atm, I'm quite tired

 

[Deleted member]

Gorf

The guy who claimed to be an FBI agent who had found the SK (who turned out to REALLY BE THE SK)

Is define scum. I will not 'just go with you'.

EE on the other hand has a case that I agree with entirely.

vote: Frozen

I investigated him day 1. He came up as not a survivor. Lynch him, now.

If you don't and I die during the night phase, you'll know I was right.

 

[Deleted member]

@mod, I put a vote on Gorf.

 

[Evil Eye]

oh my ****ing god auspher

Are you Vinyl's alt seriously

 

[Evil Eye]

What are you even claiming.

Just full claim. Zero point not doing so at this point. What is your character, what is your role name? State it exactly as it appears in your role PM without copypasta.

 

[Evil Eye]

I take back everything I said about noobtown. Auspher is a nullgasm. The most infuriating kind. Maybe he just really is that manipulative and whiny re: his D1 play.

The sheer number of baffling things about what he is saying are ****ing staggering

 

[Evil Eye]

Hmm. If Auspher were scum, and J(erkus) is scum, Jerkus's post with limp rationale for joining the Auspher wagon could be a bus.

 

[Evil Eye]

Whatever. Auspher, claim. In full. Claim everything. After you claim character and role name, paraphrase your role PM as fully as possible. Then explain your activities from the beginning of the game to now.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I investigated him day 1. He came up as not a survivor. Lynch him, now.

If you don't and I die during the night phase, you'll know I was right.

Day 1, or Night one...?

Welp waiting on a full claim I guess O.o

 

[Evil Eye]

Just when I thought this game was making sense or something, it gets ******** all over again.

On that note, Kata STOP ****ING LURKING OH MY GOD JESUS GOGDAMN

 

[Evil Eye]

I could see this though. If mafia has a stalker I've considered them targeting Gheb (as he posited) and the stalker either being Gorf or handing their claim over to Gorf, who would pose some sort of more expendable role. Or whatever. Either way Gorf's play was rumblin' my guts on D1 and I ignored it because I had nothing logical.

Will reread after exam. Not tonight cuz I'll be wiped.

 

[Evil Eye]

so yeah auspher gimme that full claim. To the fullest extent of the law.

Also, unvote (for now)

 

[Kataefi]

i'm at work i'm reading. i'll be posting tonight when i get home.

 

[Evil Eye]

You've been reading all morning and didn't say a peep.

And you say the "I'll blank blank [time interval]" thing a lot too yet rarely act on it.

So change that

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Uhm, you're reading on to shallow of a level. I attacked Gorf on that so he would respond to me directly, so that I could better my read on him. It's a lot easier to discern allignment when you control the context in which you are reading. By calling out the similarities in Circus and Gorf, you get to further discern the intent and level he has when he posts a rebut. Something in which you either entirely skimmed over, or just did not pay attention too. I even plainly said it to Gord afterwards that I was okay with him based on his response. I can dig it up if needed to.

First off, you're initial argument is under the assumption that I should know Gorf's meta. I haven't played with him much, if ever. So, my opinion with his hate for AtE doesn't flow that way. See, I didn't know that.

Continuing on, what you call as backpedaling, really is a way I scumhunt. It can be noted twice in this game. With Gorf and Mentos. Also, my eyes were set to Circus, not Gorf. I FoS'd both of them, because the attack on Auspher was poor and should not have been nearly drawn out that long. It was far too easy to discern that Auspher is just noob town, it all lines up with what I've seen before. It's a defense mechanism when you don't know how to respond to pressure ,which comes off extremely scummy. In NEWBIE games. A seasoned player shouldnt attack that.

Also, @bold, where is it your place to discern this? How do you know I was pushing in the wrong directions? My scumhunting is my scumhunting, and where I push or look is my choice. Unless you have outside inormation, which that could allude to, everyone is suspect.

More to come.

unvote vote: FrozenFlame

I can accept this. It's a logical response and the explanation I was looking for.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Wait so Auspher's seriously just gonna...

I thought there was gonna be a followup.

God this kid is a troll ghghghgh

iknorite

it's like why

it's even more like why when you have a scrubtown read on him yet you want him gone because his input is practically nothing at best and misleading or antitown at worst

wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Wouldn't Rajam be moreso a vig shot O.o? I don't see why scum would go for the totally expendable Rajam.

Fishing in nulls to avoid a doc protect possible? I don't ****in' know. They're making our job easier for us so kudos to them.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Assuming Gheb is telling truth and we have a mafia team, throwing a vig in there too is risky ****ing business.

I don't know.

N1 Kevmo and Mantoast die. If they're lovers, I could see a vig targeting either of them. Can't see scum hitting mentos unless they just figured he's good enough to claw out of the hole he had and town, and wanted to snipe him early. I guess he softclaimed a PR there too, assuming he wasn't actually a bad guy of some kind. Hm. A little more plausible. Regardless, town Kevmo would be a good hit because he's so inactive but of course has a well-tuned gut.

But they'd both be legit vig hits too.

N2 we have Rajam. Can NOT SEE SCUM MOTIVATION TO HIT HIM AT ALL. AT ALL. Mentos and Kevmo have some, Raj just doesn't make sense augh. Unless they chose to no-kill to set up some kind of gambit. Or hit BP / doc/jailer/whatever makes save / some other town meddling, meanwhile vig guy hits Rajam. ...

I don't know. It doesn't math.

See, I agree with this too. It makes me think there is a vig doing work (because both of these kills are explainable and understandable if they're vig shots) but I just...can't see a vig in a game with an SK and another scum alignment out there. Unless that other alignment can't kill, I just can't see...how.

Hey EE, you mentioned a group called "The Others" yesterday when asked about potential scum flavors. You mentioned their calling card was kidnapping. Is this a possibility?

 

[hidajiremi]

Vote count:

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

frozenflame: (5) Glyphmoney, Gorf, Asdioh, Ryker, WashedLaundry
Gorf: (1) Auspher

Not voting: (6) Dooms, DtJ frozenflame751, Evil Eye, J, Kataefi, Chaco

Deadline is January 16th, 11:59 PM EST.

Thanks for flying with Oceanic.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Also while a doc is plausible, I just can't see a doc being that boss to get two successful protects two nights in a row. I also don't see a jan-vig as being protown at all. I'm much more willing to accept abductor/stalker/jan but those targets, man...

 

[hidajiremi]

Second request: Can you confirm the presence of a mafia faction?

Okay, so Tandora went right to work this morning without checking the thread, so she's authorized me to answer this now. I hereby confirm the existence of a mafia faction. Just in case, I also confirm the existence of a town faction. I have already confirmed the prior existence of a now-dead independent serial killer. That's all I'm confirming.

Thank you for flying with Oceanic.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

So we are working with a real mafia faction.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

You know the situation's bad when Occam's Razor is out the ****ing window because nothing makes sense or is easily or logically explained in a simple way. ffs

 

[hidajiremi]

So we are working with a real mafia faction.

Don't know what you mean by "real" here, but I have been authorized to confirm the existence of a town faction and a mafia faction.

Thank you for flying with Oceanic.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I wasn't necessarily feeling it. He doesn't give me anything outside the possibility of a scum flip. He was still on my list of possibilities for today even before the last phase ended.

I expected to get a flip of some kind. Or a kill I could assume was mafia even without the role. I didn't. I literally have a pool of four players who I think are the best chance of hitting something, but none of them give me ANYTHING and the NKill didn't point me at any of them. The post you made concerning Frozen is full of what makes him a better shot than the others.

****, dood, this feels like Wild Werewolf Adventures all over again. I don't wanna call a massclaim but we might need to just to get a scrap of credible information on the table for town to pick at and get a direction from. The problem is, as EE pointed out, scum may just have the perfect safeclaims, and that really makes me say "no," or at the very least, "not yet."

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Maybe mafia did get arsed over by town PRs. Rajam is just. Too not a damn scum kill. Literally the one thing I could see leading to that is Rajam gets targeted by a stalker N1 (which might not be in the game, don't let this poison the watering hole too much) and is the doc or cop or some **** like that so they kill him N2. Other than that I just cannot see a scrape of motivation for it, because even if Rajam was onto some baddies he was too all over the place (iirc) to make anything of it.

but that may be a place to start. Stew and I killed Bronar in Utrick'd2 because we thought he was onto us being an Indy when that was furthest from the case. Scum jump at the smallest things sometimes, searching Rajam's voting pattern and lynch pool may be at least something we can go off.

Problem is, I remember that pool containing Acrostic/Asidoh and Ryker, two people who I'm pretty sure are town.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

**** me, but Joey goes on the shooting list too.

would you consider J/Kata scum if he flips scum? Both tried to randomly defend him D1, to my knowledge.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

You've been reading all morning and didn't say a peep.

And you say the "I'll blank blank [time interval]" thing a lot too yet rarely act on it.

So change that

ding ding ****ing ding

oh gog auspher what the **** are you even doing

why does nothing make sense and yet everything make sense because there's nothing sensible to fill the void of the insane ideas filling my mind

 

[Chaco]

I believe getting too caught up in set up semantics will do us no good currently. Really and truly, there's nothing we can do about the flips at this point. Trying to discern the role that's causing this, will not help us lynch the person responsible. So, while it's good to be wary of the situation. Putting too much thought into it at this point will get us nowhere.

@J: What's your stance on Auspher?

 

[Asdioh]

what the **** two pages since last night/this morning wtf

 

[Asdioh]

I pretty much need Asdiohcrostic to be town based on his role. Feel like making him test it again today? I do. Especially with the possibility of alignment shifts.

I am up for this. Put FF to L-1 and I'll 'hammer' him.


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Auspher if you're going to say something like that, you had better fully claim your role, how you used it, and why you used it like you did. You should know better.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Tentative v/la since my laptop is sparking and smoke is coming out of it

 

[Evil Eye]

and still no auspher

have I said "**** this game" yet

 

[Deleted member]

Evil Eye. Rage more, it's a fun read.

I'm Sawyer, the town cop. I made this quite obvious day 1 when I said that I wouldn't be able to provide anything useful until after the first night phase. Admittedly, I was inactive for day 2, but it was during night one that my investigation yielded that Gorf is not a survivor. I investigated Dooms on night 2 and I got no results.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm not sure what to make of Dooms now because of that night 2 investigation.

 

[Asdioh]

so your results are like "Survivor" or "Not a survivor?"
I'm assuming that survivor is the equivalent of town. brb checking my role pm again

 

[Dooms]

We really just got the cop outed... >_>'

Survivor being town makes sense. Can you confirm that survivor means town, Auspher?

I don't know how to contribute at this point since it just seems that EE is doing his thing and everyone seems to agree with that one post that I haven't read yet. (I haven't caught up yet)