Logical choices for backup characters

[Shy Guy!]

I was wondering does anybody have a reason for thier second charcter? Or is it just another character you wanted to play?

I main ____ therefore I should play ____ incase I get counterpicked. A list like this with blanks filled in would be sweet lol ^_^

I myself play falco and a couple others but all my others don't compare to my falco. So I was trying to figure out who I should start seriously practicing incase I know my falco will not do well in the situation Im about to be in


Can someone give me some info on this

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

ice climbers are my couterpick to luigi and sheik to peach and that's about it for now

 

[Nø Ca$h]

play falco untill you get really good with him and then pick a character that does well vs your falcos bad matchups.

sticking with a main is crucial imo. its better to be good with one character than not so good with multiple characters.

 

[Shy Guy!]

That makes sense and I'm to the to point where mind games is the only thing I lack really and the pressure of tournys ^_^ but sometimes I'm up against charcters falco isn't so hot against and I would love some info on someone who counters the majority of things that counter falco

 

[Crazy Cloud]

Main Fox
Secondary Fox
?????
Profit

 

[Shy Guy!]

But Choosing marth against falco is a good choice and so is choosing marth against fox. So fox doesn't cover that and a few other counterpicks to falco

 

[Nø Ca$h]

That makes sense and I'm to the to point where mind games is the only thing I lack really and the pressure of tournys ^_^ but sometimes I'm up against charcters falco isn't so hot against and I would love some info on someone who counters the majority of things that counter falco

usually falco is bad vs peach and puff, but personal matchup preference plays a role too. fox usually covers falcos holes well.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

What makes sence to me is if you counter picked their stsyle. Fox is very good at that.

 

[Shy Guy!]

I thought I would hear fox being a good second and It makes sense. He is fast, flows well and can adapt alot and is similar to falco on ways.

So it's not so much the charcter I second but how I can adapt and counter the play style of my opp?

 

[mastermoo420]

Yeah, all jokes aside, Fox is a solid secondary. Basically, you want to just secondary one of the top/high tiers unless you already have a top/high tier as a main. Even then, you could have another high/top tier as a secondary.

They're the top/high tier for a reason, and there was a reason why Fox was top tier for the longest time until that new tier list came out; Fox has a lot of good match-ups, and most of them are even/in his favour. Of course, if your main can cover all characters but a few, and there's another character that can counter them, by all means, use that character.

jeez I said "top/high tier" a lot

EDIT: Also, if you can adapt and counter the playstyle of your opponent, it doesn't matter who you use.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

I thought I would hear fox being a good second and It makes sense. He is fast, flows well and can adapt alot and is similar to falco on ways.

So it's not so much the charcter I second but how I can adapt and counter the play style of my opp?

no, you want to be able to play vs many many styles as your main. you want to pick a CP if you have a significant amount of trouble in certain matchups.

 

[Shy Guy!]

All of this is helping out alot so I thank you guys.

I do not want to haves huge gang of charcters to play because ifeel like they would all be mediocre because I would have to spread my practice time to them all

but the point I'm getting from you guys is fox IS a logically choice, among many I feel like, but more importantly I need to learn to adapt to play styles fast so I can stick with my main and if that can be done a second won't be as neccasary?

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

The problem with fox is everyone plays as fox and knows how to deal with him. why I could see a smart kirby being a couter pick to a falco who doesn't know the match-up and fox is even with him when he knows the match-up.

 

[Shy Guy!]

Are you saying a Kirby as a secondary?

I'm all for playing any character I'm just curious as to why Kirby, more details

 

[MooseEatsBear]

Are you saying a Kirby as a secondary?

I'm all for playing any character I'm just curious as to why Kirby, more details

ICG is just a troll, don't take things he says seriously.

But yeah, I've been wondering about a good secondary, too. I dabble in a few characters, but I main Falco, and secondary Falcon. Is this a good combination?

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

no you don't understand everyone knows fox no one knows kirby so vs falco he could be a couter pick.

If you spam the same couter pick people will learn it and your couter pick will fail. just learn your s*** and have fun. fox is mega spammed

 

[N64]

I play ylink partially to counter jiggs.

And partically because he's AWESOME.

 

[Shy Guy!]

It makes sense except for the fact Kirby is horrible

Playing in tournies I will most likely play top tiers the majority of the time and they all destroy Kirby right? So my Kirby would have to be out of this world to keep up

I'm not biast towards low tiers, I love Zelda lol, but Kirby seems like a really poor choice especialy against Marths and blah you get the just of what I'm saying

 

[inditled]

main fox falco puff, then you will never encounter a bad matchup

 

[Geist]

Most people who are concerned with winning pick a secondary that complements their main, or covers their own incompetence as a player (meant in the nicest way possible of course, no disrespect to those people who's Fox gets it up the shaft by Marth players)

Don't play Kirby as a secondary unless you enjoy playing him. He is not, I repeat, NOT going to cover any weaknesses your main can't handle, unless you main Ness or something.

Personally I picked my main because I enjoyed how they played. I picked my secondary because I enjoyed playing them too, but it just so happened that they were too terrible of a character to consider maining.

Don't listen to ICG, he exists to make you question your sanity.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

just a case where they don't know really kills them if you don't know how to deal with kirby as falco you're f***ed it's super hard. if fox wasn't spammed as hard he'd be a better CP

 

[Shy Guy!]

Makes sense blowtoes, I'm getting alot of info and help from this thread.
I will just have to take it all into consideration and pay more attention to the way I play and adapt at tournys to choose the best to second my falco.

Also why's everyone hating on icg right now lol

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

You can't hate me it's impossible i'm to nice an dcan't be hurt from any of it that's why they try soooo hard. I was wanting to throw out there most people who are counters people tend to work harder to learn to fight.

 

[victra♥]

1. main a character you like
2. have spacie as a secondary but use it more than your main
3. switch to pocket fox vs puff

 

[Moooose]

use sheik for samus

 

[DtJ Jungle]

no no no mark ive tried that james still ***** me

 

[Geist]

I don't hate on you ICG, how could anyone hate someone who's so **** CARZY

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

Ronald Reagan it'd be cool if you knew why. pichu is my walling charcter counter

 

[ChivalRuse]

Marth is a good character to use against Samus.

 

[Zodiac]

I main link and secondary sheik, I dont secondary her for any reason other than Im a zelda fan and when I lose with link I switch to sheik. but conincedentally she IS a good back up for link, she is good vs falco, marth and falcon, and pretty good against fox And link is good against puff, marth, peach. They balance out pretty well.

 

[-ShadowPhoenix-]

I main Marth and Second Sheik/Fox. Sheik for ganons and falcons... fox for matchups that i am not familar with or feel uncomfortable (mostly ICs)

 

[EPsilon933]

I used to Main Zelda to fight everyone not Falco/Fox/Marth/Sheik and I played Peach vs Falco/Fox/Marth/Sheik. They **** low tiers so hard. inb4 Cosmo or Zone. No one knows how to fight low tiers so playing Zelda gives me one good advantage. However, when you're one of the top 4, you don't need to know how to counter low tiers. Just spam your sheer brokenness and you're guaranteed to not lose.

 

[Shy Guy!]

That's exactly why I was questioning what ICG was saying

 

[Jonas]

I main Bowser, but I have Marth to cover his bad matchups.
Other than that, I also use Ganon. No reason for that really, except for him being fun to play

Yeah I don't have a Sheik counter

 

[SuperMatt]

just think about it

if you play falco and you are losing to marths, find someone who beats marth

the answer is sheik, sheik is the answer to your question

 

[Zodiac]

Perfect team is this.

if you main /secondary Marth, Fox or sheik you will never have to pick up another character again.

Sheik only has two matchups that are slightly out of her favor, Ic's( only if you get grabbed) and fox.
fox only has one matchup that is out of his favor...BARLEY. Marth. And marth gets ***** much harder by sheik than fox.

Also Sheik is basically the best character in the game next to fox.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Main Fox, secondary Meta Knight you'll win everything. Possibly Master Hand for doubles.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Ivan Ooze is good vs some characters.

 

[SSBMLahti]

I main Jigglypuff therefore I should play Jigglypuff incase I get counterpicked.

But seriously, I main Falco. I don't want any secondaries.

 

[SSBMLahti]

Ivan Ooze is good vs some characters.

Power Rangers movie *****.