Link Social Thread

[DarkDeity15]

I'm not sure if everyone knows this or not, but you can combo your back air into a DAC, grab, forward smash, or boomerang. IASA frames ftw.

 

[Player -0]

For Falling Spin Nair could possible be better but flash 2gud.


The Bair is known, it's used on a lot of regrabs off down throw.

 

[DarkDeity15]

Thanks. I actually found that out myself in the Link matchup thread. I'll be going there to absorb more info about him and his matchups.

 

[GoldHazard]

If you jump up-b without tap jump on it might be harder than just not JCing it because of the extra button input.

The easiest way for me to do it is to moonwalk off the edge into up-b.

The way I usually perform this, I run towards the ledge and press up, then press b not a second later and it works just fine.

 

[Player -0]

If you have tap jump turned off it doesn't work as well using that method.

 

[Pug]

In fact it shouldn't work at all. It's a bit trickier with tap jump off. You have to hit one of the buttons you have jump mapped to and then slam the control stick up and hit b simultaneously a moment later.

When I screw it up I usually haven't gotten the control stick up in time, which either results in doing a normal aerial up B (which is DISASTROUS because it's so punishable), or I jump off the edge while throwing a boomerang.

 

[Heero Yuy]

I only DACUS after an Fthrow, and even then why do that when you can get better followups after a Dthrow?

DACUS I feel like is another flashy thing like the falling UpB.

 

[Heero Yuy]

(Double post, sorry. I really wanted to ask this question though.)

I often make the mistake when trying to pull out a bomb off stage, I fastfall then I fall to my doom. I do pull off successful AGT recoveries, but I'm still making this mistake and I'm not too sure why.

How do I not fastfall while pulling out the bomb? Also how do you guys get out of the tumbling animation - by pulling out the bomb or by another means?

 

[Hylian]

You get out of tumble by dash dancing in the air.

You don't fast fall when pulling a bomb by moving your stick down slowly as if you are tilting. You can do this and move the stick all the way down before pulling a bomb. You can also put the stick in the downwards position during your previous action, such as hitstun, jumping, agt, or whatever.

 

[Player -0]

(Double post, sorry. I really wanted to ask this question though.)

I often make the mistake when trying to pull out a bomb off stage, I fastfall then I fall to my doom. I do pull off successful AGT recoveries, but I'm still making this mistake and I'm not too sure why.

How do I not fastfall while pulling out the bomb? Also how do you guys get out of the tumbling animation - by pulling out the bomb or by another means?

You can get out of tumble by mashing side to side on the control stick. There are a certain amount of inputs it takes.

I have trouble with the bomb thing too, it's mainly panic but you have to only tilt down the control stick a little bit.

 

[Heero Yuy]

Started practicing this and it seems to work. Thanks!

 

[Pug]

You have to force yourself to slow down, sometimes. Especially if you were whizzing about at mach 10 on stage before getting launched.

 

[Heero Yuy]

What exactly does Germ do here and is it possible to do in P:M? I assume he's JC'ing a bomb throw out of shield.

http://youtu.be/ltHolKri7EI?t=3m22s

 

[Third]

He's just shielding and then hitting the C-stick forward to throw it. It works in PM, and can be done with any throwable item.

 

[Heero Yuy]

I've been practicing Link an hour a day for the past month and haven't noticed that. Derp.

 

[Player -0]

You can just tap A while shielding too.

 

[The_Dark_Linksman]

Hey folks, TUSM here on an ancient account. I just started playing this game I guess about a week or two ago, and I have come to enjoy it quite a bit. I main Link just like I did in Melee, and he feels amazing for once. It's not a COMPLETE struggle to win now. I'm having trouble against the faster characters (read: spacies and Falcon), but I'm dealing with it slowly, but surely.

Giving my input on the bomb pull subject, I always pull mine out right after a double jump, tilting the control stick diagonally down and towards the stage. I don't bomb jump 'cause for some reason my bomb either flies away or the explosion doesn't hit me, so I glide toss straight up, then as I'm still ascending, I return the control stick to that same diagonal position and repeat as necessary.

 

[Wolf_]

What exactly does Germ do here and is it possible to do in P:M? I assume he's JC'ing a bomb throw out of shield.

http://youtu.be/ltHolKri7EI?t=3m22s

You can do this in P:M, but I think the bomb explosions in P:M are bigger, so whereas in the video only Marth gets hit, you'd probably get hit in P:M as well as Marth, at least that's been my experience using this, if someone has found a way around that please let me know haha

 

[Heero Yuy]

Nick, your set with your brother was HYPE!!!! Game 1 was nail-biting.

Nice upset.

 

[NickRiddle]

Thank you~

 

[Wolf_]

Nick, your set with your brother was HYPE!!!! Game 1 was nail-biting.

Nice upset.

Where is this?

 

[NickRiddle]

CEO. I placed 5th.
Lost to ZeRo.
Beat Sol (Sonic), KDJ, ESAM, DEHF.
Lost to ChuDat. Crouch 2gud

 

[AeroLink_the_SoulMaster]

Good ****, NickRidley!

In other news, the power of The Biforce! lol

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http://gfycat.com/SaneSecondhandDachshund

 

[NickRiddle]

NickRidley?
Oh no, I'm too big to play Smash 4...

 

[Heero Yuy]

The perfect moonwalk seems really weird...

I'm holding A and tapping the C-stick but always end up either turning around OR Fsmashing.

 

[Player -0]

The perfect moonwalk seems really weird...

I'm holding A and tapping the C-stick but always end up either turning around OR Fsmashing.

Make sure you're holding the control stick forward and tapping the C-Stick at the right angle. So keep the control stick still and tap with the C-Stick.

Wasn't thinking, the thing above is for pivot walking.

For Moonwalk you do a moonwalk then tap the C-Stick forward and keep the control stick in the spot you finished the moonwalk with. Just make sure you tap the C-Stick early enough or you get an F-Smash. If you get a pivot then you did the C-Stick too slow and the pivot animation keeps you from doing an F-Smash. At least I think.

 

[EmptySky00]

Use a shoulder button for A. Makes it much easier.


Also makes dacus easier :3

 

[J3f]

You can do this in P:M, but I think the bomb explosions in P:M are bigger, so whereas in the video only Marth gets hit, you'd probably get hit in P:M as well as Marth, at least that's been my experience using this, if someone has found a way around that please let me know haha

It's possible to throw a point blank bomb, I go over it in this thread on SHAGing http://smashboards.com/threads/new-link-tech-to-do-grounded-glide-tossing.346341/

TLDR: Short Hop then as soon as the jump squat animation finishes AGT away from your opponent. It's like wavedash out of shield, but you also AGT.

 

[Heero Yuy]

Nothing annoys me more than messing up a grounded UpB, flying into the air, and getting punished hard for it. To anybody with tap jump on, please tell me how to grounded upB better.

(And please don't say "practice more". I feel like there's some kind of window that I'm missing to get the successful upB.)

 

[EmptySky00]

You have to press B before he leaves jumpsquat. 6 frames.

 

[NickRiddle]

Turn tap jump off.

 

[EmptySky00]

I was going to say that but people like it for some masochistic reason.

 

[Fortress]

Nothing annoys me more than messing up a grounded UpB, flying into the air, and getting punished hard for it. To anybody with tap jump on, please tell me how to grounded upB better.

(And please don't say "practice more". I feel like there's some kind of window that I'm missing to get the successful upB.)

Hit b sooner.

 

[Heero Yuy]

Turn tap jump off.

I've been strongly considering that actually. But...UpB OoS is now a thing of the past?

 

[NickRiddle]

Change a shoulder button to jump.

 

[EmptySky00]

Just use Y.

I can up B OoS without tap jump. Just takes practice.
Slide your finger from Y to B and do it like that.

 

[Fortress]

Now that's masochistic.

 

[Fenrir VII]

I have tap jump on and upB just fine... just hit B sooner.

 

[NickRiddle]

Now that's masochistic.

Now that's strategy.

 

[EmptySky00]

Time to tip the scales.