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Link Social Thread
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NaijaboyIrin
Smash Apprentice
Yo.
Link is a solid character. He has so much range and his zoning game is incredible. AGT is also a great tech to have under your belt, so learn it.
My issue is that not many players are putting in much work with him. (Yeah, I'm gulty of this , too
) With a little bit more representation in tournies, he'll be a contender.
Link is a solid character. He has so much range and his zoning game is incredible. AGT is also a great tech to have under your belt, so learn it.
My issue is that not many players are putting in much work with him. (Yeah, I'm gulty of this , too
) With a little bit more representation in tournies, he'll be a contender.
Wobbly Headed Bob
Smash Journeyman
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Man, StarWolf has no respect for spacing.
Soldner Kei
Smash Apprentice
Link is pretty solid, is a good character with good tools, only match up that I think he has trouble is with spacies and sheik, not unwinneable but I have a bad time when they get in my face... I miss dsmash while holding bomb in 2.5 thou
NaijaboyIrin
Smash Apprentice
Looks like the forums on smashmods were closed. Shame.
We know you're putting in work Hylian. Good luck with your tournament!
We know you're putting in work Hylian
. Good luck with your tournament!
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
I don't think they've been officially closed, pages for Pit onwards are still active.
Anyways, I think in general Link has issues when he gets pressured, doesn't matter who it is.
Some characters are just better at pressuring him than others. However, I do think spacies and Sheik are much more manageable than they were in Melee, though I'd have to see exactly how that pans out in tourney play.
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nevermind, looks like they're closing all of them... WHY???
Anyways, I think in general Link has issues when he gets pressured, doesn't matter who it is.
Some characters are just better at pressuring him than others. However, I do think spacies and Sheik are much more manageable than they were in Melee, though I'd have to see exactly how that pans out in tourney play.
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nevermind, looks like they're closing all of them... WHY???
Wobbly Headed Bob
Smash Journeyman
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This hurts every inch of my being too.I miss dsmash while holding bomb in 2.5 thou
Also, I noticed that you're in Sonora. Where in Sonora are you?
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
I recognize a few names from the Brawl Link boards. This is great that PM has its own sub-forum, and for its characters!
This is great that PM has its own sub-forum, and for its characters!
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
The more Brawl players that switch to PM, the better.
Not that Sakurai pays attention, but a dwindling competitive scene for Brawl sends a clear message for Smash 4 to not be like Brawl.
Eh... who am I kidding, Sakurai doesn't care about fans, he want "new" gamers so he can make more money.
Not that Sakurai pays attention, but a dwindling competitive scene for Brawl sends a clear message for Smash 4 to not be like Brawl.
Eh... who am I kidding, Sakurai doesn't care about fans, he want "new" gamers so he can make more money.
Wobbly Headed Bob
Smash Journeyman
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Yeah, I don't Sakurai ever wanted a competitive scene for Brawl in the first place.
And the idea of Brawl players picking up PM sounds too good to be true.
And the idea of Brawl players picking up PM sounds too good to be true.
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
I don't know how he even got the impression in the first place that there was something wrong with the game being competitive.
You can play Melee casually no problem, just don't play against people who are competitive, and will demand you turn items off and only do teams or 1v1.
Did he not notice, Halo and Street Fighter both have HUGE competitive scenes, there are still A LOT of people who aren't competitive that play for fun.
As a matter of fact, my ex-gf was in a sorority, she and her sorority sisters would actually get a bunch of 360s and have huge LAN parties.
The point, a game can be competitive and casual at the same time w/o altering and nerfing it to the point it becomes stupid.
You can play Melee casually no problem, just don't play against people who are competitive, and will demand you turn items off and only do teams or 1v1.
Did he not notice, Halo and Street Fighter both have HUGE competitive scenes, there are still A LOT of people who aren't competitive that play for fun.
As a matter of fact, my ex-gf was in a sorority, she and her sorority sisters would actually get a bunch of 360s and have huge LAN parties.
The point, a game can be competitive and casual at the same time w/o altering and nerfing it to the point it becomes stupid.
It's easily possible to drag players from Brawl to P:M.
You just need to scoop them when they're most fed up with the game so they're more likely to give P:M a shot. Also the contrast in quality will blow them away, and that effect will be inflated if they're frustrated with Brawl.
You just need to scoop them when they're most fed up with the game so they're more likely to give P:M a shot. Also the contrast in quality will blow them away, and that effect will be inflated if they're frustrated with Brawl.
Gadiel_VaStar
Smash Champion
P:M is a fun game, and I think a lot of brawl players like it because their "favorite" character is still in P:M but w/ upgraded abilities. Excluding, Pit...I think he's a little nerfed, but I haven't played him enough to figure out.
But Link is amazing in this game, I played him once and feel in love. His zoning/control of space is so good because the projectile lag is very low. Link can pull out bombs/arrows/boom/Z-button so fast in this game. Up-B OOS seems a little buffed too, and his attacks speed is a lot faster. I think I'll be maining Link in P:M, but I still have to see who else I can be good w/.
But Link is amazing in this game, I played him once and feel in love. His zoning/control of space is so good because the projectile lag is very low. Link can pull out bombs/arrows/boom/Z-button so fast in this game. Up-B OOS seems a little buffed too, and his attacks speed is a lot faster. I think I'll be maining Link in P:M, but I still have to see who else I can be good w/.
NaijaboyIrin
Smash Apprentice
Hey guys, the video thread from smashmods is up.
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
Can someone explain the differences between 2.1 and 2.5 boomerang?
NaijaboyIrin
Smash Apprentice
2.1 boomerang hits people straight up, making it awesome for combos. However, in 2.5, it hits at an angle: up and slightly away after it is thrown and slightly towards Link when it comes back.
Personally, I don't feel much of a difference.
Personally, I don't feel much of a difference.
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
Neat, thank you very much. Along with the bombs, is this the only change to Link in 2.5?
Wobbly Headed Bob
Smash Journeyman
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Something about his grab changed.
He also can't dsmash while holding a bomb anymore (which was so cool).
Problem2
Smash Champion
The change to his grab is an extremely important one to note. The grab can no longer grab people out of the air like in 2.1, which is an extremely big nerf. There is a normal grab box around Link's hand that will grab foes in the air, but it is extremely small.
His rang hits up and away now instead of straight up, which messes with half of my bomb tricks and makes it really hard to combo off rang in general. He's also worse at comboing. With rang hitting people away now it seems he's better played more campy as throwing rang close to someone isn't really worth the risk anymore, and I'd rather not have to play like that.
Shadocat
Smash Ace
Was there any positive changes to link in 2.5? Because I personally think he'll drop in places because he can't even grab aerial targets.
Same with TL, he's so depressing now.
Same with TL, he's so depressing now.
Ah jeez. Don't give up, though. You might find something else that can make it work.
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
Does anyone know who was BEHIND the nerfs that Link got?
Not being able to air grab actually is quite a nerf, its one thing I HATE about Melee Link.
Better not have been some Fox main who thought "wahhh, Link is too good against Fox now.".
Btw Hylian, don't give up on Link regardless, you're a model for the community.
Not being able to air grab actually is quite a nerf, its one thing I HATE about Melee Link.
Better not have been some Fox main who thought "wahhh, Link is too good against Fox now.".
Btw Hylian, don't give up on Link regardless, you're a model for the community.
Revven
FrankerZ
He can definitely still grab characters out of the air. Please actually test it out before saying he can't. I just did it like twice today (of the few matches I played with him).
Actually the rang change is screwing with stuff.
However, SMK is right in the fact that he can still grab out of the air. That has to do with mechanic changes, where a character's limbs were made to no longer be grabbable ala Melee. His ability to grab out of the air so well was because you can grab limbs in brawl.
So calm down, SMK.
However, SMK is right in the fact that he can still grab out of the air. That has to do with mechanic changes, where a character's limbs were made to no longer be grabbable ala Melee. His ability to grab out of the air so well was because you can grab limbs in brawl.
So calm down, SMK.
Revven
FrankerZ
Edit: neverminddddddd -_-
BRLNK88
Smash Ace
They should keep the rang exactly the way it was in 64.
It's not fair Falco can laser you into submission, and Link can't stun the crap out of you with a point blank boomerang (which is already riskier to begin with).
It's not fair Falco can laser you into submission, and Link can't stun the crap out of you with a point blank boomerang (which is already riskier to begin with).
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Toon Link actually got some buffs from 2.1. UpB kills better, Fsmash kills better, UpB ground can't be shielded in the middle of it like it could before, throws are better, Dair isn't auto-suicide off the stage, and Fair is better. Just sayin'.
It actually matches Smash64 more now.
As for the grab - Link can still grab airborne enemies with his hand, but the hookshot itself does not. This was done to reduce the potency of the chaingrabs, and make them slightly more difficult to do.
I won't give up on link. It's just disheartening to start losing to people I beat or go even with consistently just because of the rang change :/. It really is a pretty big nerf I think.
I like the grab changes to link. Only thing I dislike is rang and I think it's a lot more important than people realized >_>.