LGBT Smashers

[blink777]

That's so awesome, Desu. I'm practically wibbling over how wicked cool that is for you. Good job!

 

[I am gay for De De De]

I think the general concensus here is that while a lot of us aren't effeminate and may find that way of being either annoying or just hard to be around, we all can accept them if that's the way they are. If a guy came in here, sincerely talking about his facination with pink, Gucci (had to wikipedia that one), and how everything is "fabulous" and "fierce", he'd probably find just as warm a welcome as the nerdy gay guy, the Samus-loving lesbian, or the ****** who I thought was just another lesbian by the photo posted.

It's when they act effeminate simply to grab attention or to flaunt their sexuality that a lot of us frown upon. Just be yourself, and we'll support you.

I think the motives for effeminate behavior should be irrelevant to how they are treated though. Attention whores are irritating, yes, but I think we should still show them the same tolerance and acceptance as everyone else. Perhaps if they were comfortable they might even be themselves.

 

[blink777]

I think the motives for effeminate behavior should be irrelevant to how they are treated though. Attention whores are irritating, yes, but I think we should still show them the same tolerance and acceptance as everyone else. Perhaps if they were comfortable they might even be themselves.

In the immortal words of Theoden: "Let them come."

I for one, wouldn't innitially treat a fake effeminate guy any different from the rest of you online; mainly because it's online and I can't be sure that he's being fake, and secondly because it's online and who gives a d***. If after a long while of being horribly irritating, then I might do something differently, but once again: it's only an online forum.

Now of course, in real life I'm not as open to fakers. Call me names, but I don't have to like everyone .

And that's about the extent of "debating" I'll do here. Let's all have a cookie and be happy (and secretly jealous, but shh, don't tell) for Desu.

 

[I am gay for De De De]

Yeah, bad timing with my rant right before Desu's announcement.

Hope it works out for you Desu! Do keep us posted.

 

[Faora Meridian]

So I've been thinking for awhile about how wonderfully inclusive this board is; we've got gay guys, lesbians, bisexuals, even transgendered folks and I think that's great.

However...

There seems to be one type of guy who is not welcomed with open arms here, and I am referring to the effeminate man. I'm not saying there is hate on this board; far from it. I am merely saying that the nelly queens around here seem to get a bad rap.

Now, I can perfectly understand if you are not attracted to effeminate men, but to say things like "haha those flamers are so scary, I sure wouldn't want to be with one" is exclusionary! It's hypocritical to have a thread which is about tolerance of sexual identity and freedom to express yourself, and then turn around and condemn them for being different. It is the same stripe of ignorance straight people are painted with for not having any gay friends; I'm sure if you knew an effeminate guy in real life you wouldn't have this attitude at all.

I'm going to back off a bit and acknowledge that there are guys and gals in this thread who have no problems with flamers and nelly queens, but after reading all (140+) pages of this thread there were some comments which just did not sit well with me.

So gay smashers, I ask that we seek to eradicate any and all forms of inequality for everyone. How can we clean someone else's house if our own house is not in order?

I do not believe anyone here truly has any problem with the effeminante gay guy. I really don't. I don't... after all, I kinda am one. Not quite so flaming, so far as I know (though I do have a couple shirts that REALLY make a statement... that statement being that I'm a tailraiser, of course).

I think the problem that we have is that a large proportion of the people that are so willing to parade around on the streets (and yes, I used that word deliberately) aren't really doing so to take pride in who they are. They're doing it for one of two reasons. One, being a freaky sexual deviant in public and getting away with it. Two, to stuff who they are down the throats of the straight populace.

This, I do not believe, is acceptable. My understanding (skewed by a rather sheltered upbringing... I'm still pretty innocent about a lot of the world) is that pride parades, for example, exist to bring gay people together, celebrate who we are, and show the straight people that we are, in fact, decent, normal people, just like they are. If this is, in fact, the reason for a pride parade to exist, then the people going to the ones I've seen are doing a terrible job of representing the whole. And the majority of them are the 'flamers', effeminate or not.

My problem is not with effeminate guys. I like effeminate guys, to a certain point (beyond that I find some elements that annoy me, like I would any personality type). I find effeminate guys very cute sometimes... and even a lot of the time. My problem is with the members (*snerk*) of the gay community who feel the need to parade their kinks around with their pride in sexuality, and those that feel the need to stuff the most insane ideals and stereotypes of gay people right in the alienated faces of the straight people we want to accept us. And I'm sorry, but that is simply what I can't accept.

*pants a little* Whew. Now that was good. Let's move on!

Desu! You little lucky bugger! I've only read that sorta thing in really bad 'romance' stories... the ones that end in locker rooms, usually... *cough* Anyway, dude! That is made of complete awesome and win, and good for you! Good luck, and I hope things go well for you!

Blink! Excellent summary! It's good that I got +20 Awesome points... I'd hoped for thirty, because I level up at twenty-five and I really wanna take a level in Husky Molestation. *winks* I think only two people on this thread will actually get that the way it's intended. The rest will probably back away from me really slowly. I will put your mind at ease and simply say that it isn't what it sounds like, unless you're the person it involves. *grins*



*shuffles papers on his desk* And that's the news. Now it's time for Smashboards weather! I hope you've got some good news for me, Remo, over to you!

 

[Yuna-Maria]

Aaaand that's it in a nutshell.
We're not really dating yet, but I think we probably will be within a month. ;P
I'll go further in depth on this later.
I was up all night playing TEH MEEREEE and I need a nap. ;o

SAMUS LESSONS
GIVE THEM TO ME DAMMIT

the ****** who I thought was just another lesbian by the photo posted. .

O_O I love you.
No hetero.

 

[SkylerOcon]

I think the motives for effeminate behavior should be irrelevant to how they are treated though. Attention whores are irritating, yes, but I think we should still show them the same tolerance and acceptance as everyone else. Perhaps if they were comfortable they might even be themselves.

I don't really care if anybody is effeminate. The only thing that angers me is when they flaunt it just to get attention. That gives every person of the LGBT community a bad name.

 

[.:~*Momo*~:.]

Well my friends are planning on making a DDR club next year, if it happens then I'm gonna join. X3

Desu, you're soooo lucky! >.< I wish I was lucky, but all I do is stay home and sleep and come online and listen to music and play games and watch anime, so I can't expect anything. =P Hopefully I'll get a job or something...

The award I got today wasn't for perfect attendance! =D I got that award yesterday and had to be on the morning announcements, today I got a Faculty award which is basically an award for my good performance and effort in my classes... which is odd since I didn't do that well this year and even though I did better than last year I still didn't really try... but whatever. ^^;

Also I don't have a problem with effeminate gays, I am one after all... it's the attention whores that bother me. =(

EDIT: Also... I wish to rant about something... ehem

SCREW THAT MOTHER****IN BETCH!! You wanna know what I'm talking about? Well some nasty *** ***** in the hallway tapped my *** like she knows me, and I have NO CLUE who she was and when I turned around she just pointed to the girl next to her and did the same thing to some other guy... now the line I was in was moving really slowly so she managed to get me not once... BUT TWICE!! I mean what kind of nasty ***** goes around doing that? And it's not like she just tapped it but she did it as if she was about to stick her fingers up my ***, I MEAN WTF!? >=O I shoulda smacked the betch right then and there, I was really tempted to too. T_T;

... okay I'm done now. ^^

 

[orintemple]

So, here's the lowdown! A quick synopsis of a 5 hour long conversation that made me happy as a clam. (Apparently, clams are exceptionally happy...)






Aaaand that's it in a nutshell.
We're not really dating yet, but I think we probably will be within a month. ;P
I'll go further in depth on this later.
I was up all night playing TEH MEEREEE and I need a nap. ;o

AHH I guess I owe you a cookie then.
Seriously thats freaking sweet for you, good job!

 

[Daysoo]

-snip-

EDIT: Also... I wish to rant about something... ehem

SCREW THAT MOTHER****IN BETCH!! You wanna know what I'm talking about? Well some nasty *** ***** in the hallway tapped my *** like she knows me, and I have NO CLUE who she was and when I turned around she just pointed to the girl next to her and did the same thing to some other guy... now the line I was in was moving really slowly so she managed to get me not once... BUT TWICE!! I mean what kind of nasty ***** goes around doing that? And it's not like she just tapped it but she did it as if she was about to stick her fingers up my ***, I MEAN WTF!? >=O I shoulda smacked the betch right then and there, I was really tempted to too. T_T;

... okay I'm done now. ^^

That's... Really freakin' weird. o_O

 

[I am gay for De De De]

Well my friends are planning on making a DDR club next year, if it happens then I'm gonna join. X3

Oh, how i love DDR, and ITG too. I'm pretty insanely good.

SCREW THAT MOTHER****IN BETCH!! You wanna know what I'm talking about? Well some nasty *** ***** in the hallway tapped my *** like she knows me, and I have NO CLUE who she was and when I turned around she just pointed to the girl next to her and did the same thing to some other guy... now the line I was in was moving really slowly so she managed to get me not once... BUT TWICE!! I mean what kind of nasty ***** goes around doing that? And it's not like she just tapped it but she did it as if she was about to stick her fingers up my ***, I MEAN WTF!? >=O I shoulda smacked the betch right then and there, I was really tempted to too. T_T;

... okay I'm done now. ^^

I. . . just. . . ok, wow. Please elaborate!

 

[.:~*Momo*~:.]

There's nothing to elaborate on... everybody else gets a date and gets lucky and I get violated by a short round girl, that's it. T_T;

 

[XSilverX]

Hi everyone =^_^=...

 

[Kogitsune]

Hi everyone =^_^=...

Oops I meant to say that with this username...I'm XSilverX

 

[Smooth Criminal]

There's nothing to elaborate on... everybody else gets a date and gets lucky and I get violated by a short round girl, that's it. T_T;

Why can't ladies do that to mOSHI---

Edit: But seriously, MOMO, that's just...weird.

Smooth Criminal

 

[IsmaR]

the Samus-loving lesbian

Is that me? Yayz! I have a nickname

 

[Ice Climbers P and N]

Well, my friend played a prank call on my mom...saying some "adult" videotapes are ready for pickup anytime for me.

My mom said they were gay videos.

I asked my friend what he said and he said... "Hello, your pornographical videos are ready for pickup today. If you do not wish to pick them up, they will be returned on the shelves."

I said to him thaty my mom said they were gay videos.

My friend then said that she thinks I'm gay. I asked him if it was a bad thing and all he ever said was... "Gays are gross". I then took my friend and ran away...he always says me and my friend will do... "unappropriate stuff" when we run off...

Anyways...I got home and asked my mom if anything was wrong with gay people. She said they're messed up in the head.

I just replied with a usual "Oh" instead of getting suspicious... I don't want to tell anyone I'm gay yet, out in life...I don't mind saying it on here though...I also have a problem with that...I don't mind telling people on here...but in life I do...

 

[Yuna-Maria]

Is that me? Yayz! I have a nickname

I'm the other Samus-loving lesbian, but I'll go with 'the ****** who blink thought was another lesbian by the photo.' Compliment sandwich.

 

[Dedu]

Momo...
I woulda bin pissed meself then again there are some yobbos who go around touching women just coz they feel like it. Even moar so when they're drunk.

Lately I seem to notice its getting easier and easier over the months to know who's gay and keen and who's just plain ol' boring straight men

Seriously, Marth should be gay. Look at him! Its getting harder and harder to tell whether he's a fire emblem lord or Sakurai really like him alot. :D

 

[Andydark]

To finish off the discussion of the effeminate male...

It's not so much as the effeminate male as the vain male. The "If I were a girl, I'd so be a model." Vanity as a whole bugs me.

...Also I just have a pet peeve with Murses. They fill me with rage. It's irrational really... Maybe it's because my mother used to smack me with her purse...

Mommy...mommy no! *fetal position*

...ANYWAY. The guy I like who alternates between being a sweet heart and an insensitive **** called me today. Talking about visiting and such, he ended the conversation with an awkward "Heh, I never thought I'd miss someone's voice like this..."

Though I've fired warning shots saying "Get your act together you tramp."

Let's hope he took the hint...

Oh, and my neighbors house got struck by lightning and terrified me with loudness.

I've been playing Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst...ITS FREE! Join me my brethren and sistren.

 

[Doodx]

many people hate gays and make fun of them sooo much (i know some people) but making fun of a gay is making fun of someone who is different than you which means that it is the same as making someone who is black which is realy stupid in my opinion. The only time i will ever hate a gay is when he will hit on me which thnk god it still didnt happen.
if u feel like in danger or something dont be adraid to use some of your "manly strength". just because your a gay you are also still a frigin human.

 

[Leahdybug]

Uh no offense a part of me laughed a lil when I read momos post. Only cause as a chick I hardly ever hear about it the other way but yeah slap a *****.

Or grab her chest and twist. XD she will scream likea mofo. I've been groped by random dudes and my first action was to beat the hell out of them but out of exp that doesnt always work ^^;;;;.

I groped a friend as play I fully expect retaliation though. Those girls probably thought you'd take it and apparently you did twice. Slap a ho they wont see it coming =P because they wont think you'd do anything or because they think you might like it.

My advice is on the aggresssive side however, so take what you like , I just dont, one let anyone touch me two dont tolerate stupid *****es, and 3 tolerate stupid people in general. =P

 

[IsmaR]

I'm the other Samus-loving lesbian, but I'll go with 'the ****** who blink thought was another lesbian by the photo.' Compliment sandwich.

Fair enough.

And sorry to hear what happened, Ice Climbers P and N.

 

[Daysoo]

Well, my friend played a prank call on my mom...saying some "adult" videotapes are ready for pickup anytime for me.

My mom said they were gay videos.

I asked my friend what he said and he said... "Hello, your pornographical videos are ready for pickup today. If you do not wish to pick them up, they will be returned on the shelves."

I said to him thaty my mom said they were gay videos.

My friend then said that she thinks I'm gay. I asked him if it was a bad thing and all he ever said was... "Gays are gross". I then took my friend and ran away...he always says me and my friend will do... "unappropriate stuff" when we run off...

Anyways...I got home and asked my mom if anything was wrong with gay people. She said they're messed up in the head.

I just replied with a usual "Oh" instead of getting suspicious... I don't want to tell anyone I'm gay yet, out in life...I don't mind saying it on here though...I also have a problem with that...I don't mind telling people on here...but in life I do...

"Coming out" is something that's going to come up ... Eventually.
You might not even want to, and it might happen. (Happened to me, with both friends and family.)
It sucks but it's true.
Could be a month from now, could be years from now. It'll happen.
What you should start to consider now is what to do when it does come up.
If your parents are worth a ****, they'll support you, regardless of who you come to love.
The same goes for your friends.
If nothing else, they should just be indifferent.
It's nobody's business but yours to begin with.
If they've got a problem with it, **** 'em. They're not worth your time.

 

[I am gay for De De De]

To finish off the discussion of the effeminate male...

It's not so much as the effeminate male as the vain male. The "If I were a girl, I'd so be a model." Vanity as a whole bugs me.

...Also I just have a pet peeve with Murses. They fill me with rage. It's irrational really... Maybe it's because my mother used to smack me with her purse...

I used to be terribly vain when I was younger. I was vastly insecure about my appearance and vanity came with it. there are some things I don't miss about being that age. I was actually a model for awhile.

I do carry a manpurse now though. :D

I would say I am neither effeminate or masculine– my boyfriend is very much the same. He likes figure skating, musicals and nascar. I like cooking, computers and working out.

 

[Yuna-Maria]

I would say I am neither effeminate or masculine– my boyfriend is very much the same. He likes figure skating, musicals and nascar. I like cooking, computers and working out.

I like gardening, kittens, and pro wrestling.
Top that.

 

[Xsyven]

Coming out is a necessary evil for gay people. I've been out for a month, or a little over a month now. I'm still unsure whether or not it was the best, or worst decision I've ever made.

 

[Daysoo]

Coming out is a necessary evil for gay people. I've been out for a month, or a little over a month now. I'm still unsure whether or not it was the best, or worst decision I've ever made.

I felt that way too, at first.
Well, wasn't really my choice with my parents, though.
My parents kinda kicked me out of the closet.
Everything is cool NOW, but the first few months were really awkward.
It got better though. Things are better now than ever. ;D

Also, I ate Chinese food for lunch today...
Here's my fortune cookie fortune:
"The coming month shall bring you much happiness."

HOWZABOUT DEM APPLES?! >:D

 

[DoH]

I keep getting hit on by random old guys.

And by old I mean 36.

And then I reject them and they get all huffy and tell me that I'm hideous, and I'm like...then why did you hit on me in the first place?

On a more friendly topic, there's this boy. He's essentially what I would have built if they had a 'Build-a-Boyfriend' store at the mall.

We've gone on a couple of dates and he ALWAYS pays for my stuff, but we've never done anything physical, sans a few hugs. No kiss, no hand holding, nothing. Is he just a traditionalist or does he just want to be friends?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

We've gone on a couple of dates and he ALWAYS pays for my stuff, but we've never done anything physical, sans a few hugs. No kiss, no hand holding, nothing. Is he just a traditionalist or does he just want to be friends?

Maybe he's trying to be, like, normal and get to know you a little better before he starts moving in for the hard stuff.

I dunno.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Lucrece]

Also, he might be a bit adverse toward PDA, as that can get you sent to the hospital, kicked out of places, or both depending on where you are ;p.

But, yeah, he may also not be that into you, or perhaps he'd like to get to know you more before "giving himself" to you .

 

[SkylerOcon]

Well, my friend played a prank call on my mom...saying some "adult" videotapes are ready for pickup anytime for me.

My mom said they were gay videos.

I asked my friend what he said and he said... "Hello, your pornographical videos are ready for pickup today. If you do not wish to pick them up, they will be returned on the shelves."

I said to him thaty my mom said they were gay videos.

My friend then said that she thinks I'm gay. I asked him if it was a bad thing and all he ever said was... "Gays are gross". I then took my friend and ran away...he always says me and my friend will do... "unappropriate stuff" when we run off...

Anyways...I got home and asked my mom if anything was wrong with gay people. She said they're messed up in the head.

I just replied with a usual "Oh" instead of getting suspicious... I don't want to tell anyone I'm gay yet, out in life...I don't mind saying it on here though...I also have a problem with that...I don't mind telling people on here...but in life I do...

Dude, talk to your mom about it. I've been to convince my mom about how evil the Co$ is, how stupid Sophos is, and how not-bad M rated games are.

I'm pretty sure you could get her to not dislike gays.

Random: I got first place in my event in track today (100m hurdles). Yay?!

 

[Bassoonist]

Coming out is a necessary evil for gay people. I've been out for a month, or a little over a month now. I'm still unsure whether or not it was the best, or worst decision I've ever made.

It's the same for us transgendered people.

I could say I still have not determined whether coming out to my friend was the best option or not. Sure she accepted me 100%, but she could very easily spread it somehow... However, I think she's too trustworthy to do that...

 

[Yuna-Maria]

It's the same for us transgendered people.

I could say I still have not determined whether coming out to my friend was the best option or not. Sure she accepted me 100%, but she could very easily spread it somehow... However, I think she's too trustworthy to do that...

I wouldn't worry if I were you. She's known you how long?

 

[Bassoonist]

I wouldn't worry if I were you. She's known you how long?

August/September (I can't remember exactly. XD) of 2006... But she is the most trustworthy and open minded person I have ever met, I'm pretty sure.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Recently, my cousin actually confessed (only) to me that he's gay, and I was like 0_o , but he is afraid to confess to his mother and and peers because he feels that they will look at him as a sinner since people often discriminate against them, so my question is what should he do? confess? or keep on living a secret life as one? I myself couldn't answer that so I thought someone would help out

 

[DoH]

Man, I guess being a ***** for 5 years has really distorted my perception of reality.

Seriously
him

+
me

= <3

 

[orintemple]

I like gardening, kittens, and pro wrestling.
Top that.

<---- Straight Male

I like Bath and Body Works(the store), cooking, fruity cocktail-like drinks, and I think figure skating is actually really cool.

I also like extreme sports, uber violent games and movies, computers, and I watched professional wrestling for about 12 years.

Not trying to start a battle, just flaunting my unorthodoxy XD

Seriosuly though, judging others by the things they like can leave one sorely douchbagafied. And then I laugh at them.

 

[Faora Meridian]

Recently, my cousin actually confessed (only) to me that he's gay, and I was like 0_o , but he is afraid to confess to his mother and and peers because he feels that they will look at him as a sinner since people often discriminate against them, so my question is what should he do? confess? or keep on living a secret life as one? I myself couldn't answer that so I thought someone would help out

It's not always one or the other. One doesn't have to come out and be openly gay to be who they are. I've often said that it doesn't really matter, and it's not something to worry about. Coming out isn't something that needs to be done, because it's not really anyone's business to me.

"Mum, dad... I just want you to know that I love you and, no matter what you might think... I'm straight."

How often do you hear that? I'm sure part of it is cause that straight is the norm (normality... cause for me to rant for another page if it's invited, heh heh), but the fact of the matter is simply that you don't need to share with someone who your sexual partners are going to be. It's none of their business.

People will assume people are straight. It's how it always is. To come out to friends and family as a minority that is often harrassed takes balls, yes, but it doesn't make you less a person to stay quiet about it, either. Staying quiet about it because you simply don't want to invite stress, strain, potential dislike and hatred from your friends and family... those are good reasons.

Your family and friends love you for who you are. Who you are, straight or not, is why they know you in the first place. Don't deny who you are, but you don't NEED to tell those people anything of the sort. If there comes a point where it's impossible to hide (for example, hooking up with someone), then it simply comes out as a simple matter. At that point you have someone to love, and you have support, and so the fear is lessened.

At least, this is my stance on it. I've voiced it before, but I'll voice it again, and every time anyone's looking for a little different thought on the idea of coming out.

In other news, WAAAGHLAPTHILAGINATHAPTTHHHHHH! *Taz Devil whirlwind*

 

[SkylerOcon]

It's not always one or the other. One doesn't have to come out and be openly gay to be who they are. I've often said that it doesn't really matter, and it's not something to worry about. Coming out isn't something that needs to be done, because it's not really anyone's business to me.

"Mum, dad... I just want you to know that I love you and, no matter what you might think... I'm straight."

How often do you hear that? I'm sure part of it is cause that straight is the norm (normality... cause for me to rant for another page if it's invited, heh heh), but the fact of the matter is simply that you don't need to share with someone who your sexual partners are going to be. It's none of their business.

People will assume people are straight. It's how it always is. To come out to friends and family as a minority that is often harrassed takes balls, yes, but it doesn't make you less a person to stay quiet about it, either. Staying quiet about it because you simply don't want to invite stress, strain, potential dislike and hatred from your friends and family... those are good reasons.

Your family and friends love you for who you are. Who you are, straight or not, is why they know you in the first place. Don't deny who you are, but you don't NEED to tell those people anything of the sort. If there comes a point where it's impossible to hide (for example, hooking up with someone), then it simply comes out as a simple matter. At that point you have someone to love, and you have support, and so the fear is lessened.

At least, this is my stance on it. I've voiced it before, but I'll voice it again, and every time anyone's looking for a little different thought on the idea of coming out.

In other news, WAAAGHLAPTHILAGINATHAPTTHHHHHH! *Taz Devil whirlwind*

tl;dr

Don't talk about it unless your asked about it.