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#HBC | Dark Horse

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Wait you answered that, nevermind. I don't get why you felt the need to switch off or Ran though. Do you feel you got all you needed out of him? If so what did you get? Switching from one "scum read" to another when nothing new was presented is very curious.
Technically, I did switch off when I saw some new information. In this case, An ISO of Tekcat. I decided to switch my vote because I felt as though tekcat was much scummier, and I want to lynch him first because of his awful interactions with ran.

By the way, out of sheer curiousity, Dark Horse do you enjoy being town or scum more?
Depends on how I'm doing
 

#HBC | Ryker

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It's Monday at Midnight EST.

I'm not going to be home until some unannounced point tomorrow. Monday is the only day I'm going to have to swing things.

Xonar is the only scum read I have at the moment, but I've still yet to read everything.
 

TekcaT

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Apologies on not being here; this game has really slowed down and I almost forgot about it. ._.
 

T-block

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ack... we should start doing something. DH really hasn't done anything to change my mind - people should vote him.

i'll address things later - smashfest today.
 

Kantrip

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Alright, let's do this.

I have a passive ability "Pressure". All abilities used on me will cost double the PP.

Now that that's out of the way, it's time to Pokérap!

I want to be the best, there ever was
to defeat all the rest, yeah that's my cause!

dude kantrip's playing

yo we live in the same city now

we should be friends
yo t-bro dat sounds real cool mang
when we stick togetha we can taek the whole thang
u can chill with me if youre as fly as me
cuz im number one baby i'm da real OG
i've got yo back mang if you've got mine
and we'll find dem scum one step at a time
i think im finished, just 1 moar thing
im liek royalty baby so all hail the king

:awesome:
O ok. Why did you vote me?

:phone:
You're not trying to progress RVS.
Yes I am. I asked you a question to get you involved in discussion

:phone:
And dont tell me you had a legit read on me here in this quote. and its clear you r omgusing me.

Mfw I read my own post as zens (below)

:phone:
Zen and Ran aren't scum together, and this particular interaction looks TvT. Both parties have answers that make sense and are fast to put them forward.
 

Kantrip

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just curious about the basis of your evaluation. the last game i remember playing with him was time travelers, and that was a while ago.

while i look up these games, tell me how you would expect ran to act at this stage of the game if he were town?
._.

kay i'm down

vote: Ranmaru

someone point me to the last game ran played as scum?
I like T-block already.

I can see the first question helping T-block in multiple ways. It wasn't just thrown out there, T-bro actually thought about that question and what it would help him with. I like that. The hop onto Ran seems natural from that post about "idk you usually claim your role or something" that I can see why T-block didn't like it. As scum I feel T-block would feel safer waiting before joining a wagon that he just asked questions about. At least he would have waited until after his questions were answered to look like he was using that to help with his decision.
 

TekcaT

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Wait a second, why did Kantrip claim already? Or partially claim?
 

Kantrip

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Xonar - Thoughts about FreeBlock? How many games have you played with him, if any?
Don't like John's entrance into the game. This post especially: He ignores Xonar's questions for him in order to ask Xonar a similar question about someone else.

Don't think it's SvS, as I'd expect Xonar's question to get answered rather than ignored if that were the case, but I could see TekcaT scum based on this alone.
 

TekcaT

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Kantrip use your head for just a second. Asking me how your partial claim benefits town is gallons of WIFOM just waiting to be poured. I'm not going to go that route.

Your play in this game already is striking me as different than the many other games John has played with you, and I do not like it.
 

Kantrip

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So it's elaboration you miss.

However, it is entirely assumable that there is a form of thought process before drawing these conclusions. Wouldn't it be profitable to deduct these reasons? If you do that, you can see what I see, and that way we can catch the person on these mistakes multiple times, because they are not entirely informed why it was a mistake, thus more likely to repeatedly make them, allowing us to catch people more easily. Agreed?


I will elaborate though, because it doesn't seem like this is working out. Thought it was worth a shot though. Not now, kinda busy atm.
I actually get what Xonar was going for with his one-word opinions on posts. I didn't really see what he saw though so I agree with Zen asking him for elaboration on... everything.

Town lean on Ramen, Xonar remains null.
 

Kantrip

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Kantrip use your head for just a second. Asking me how your partial claim benefits town is gallons of WIFOM just waiting to be poured. I'm not going to go that route.

Your play in this game already is striking me as different than the many other games John has played with you, and I do not like it.
Oh, you're not John right now? Hey John's bro!

Here it is, in plain English: I'm warning town in advance so that if they have limited PP on an important ability they don't burn two targeting me. If they don't trust me on that or still think it's worth targeting me, no problem; I'd just rather them be informed so it's not on me.

I don't really see too much of a negative for scum knowing this either.
 

Kantrip

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Oh mother of god.

Unvote



It was a joke :v. Ran hadn't done anything bad at the time (but then again, no one really had imo. lol)



I do not know how to Ryker unfortunately :c.



"He doesn't get himself killed"...

Do you have a legit read on Ranmaru or are you just excusing him from your scum reads because of the stupidity you're implying he has?



Did you read the thread fully before voting or did you not care if Ranmaru was lynched or put at L-1 this early in the game? I'm assuming you wouldn't want to lynch him right away since you asked him a question, and I'm also assuming that since you only commented on two posts (one of which is based on meta, not a very good point to lynch someone), that you didn't really have a reason as town to view him as 100% or even 60% scum if you did intend to lynch him
Like this post. Dooms leaning town.
 

TekcaT

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What does not being John have to do with things? o.o

Thank you for that explanation, it cleared things up a bit. It still seems a bit off to be saying that D1 (as opposed to the start of D2 or something).
 

Kantrip

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People have actions on N1.

You not being John's bro just threw me off because I thought I was talking to John and so, knowing him, expected he be able to work out why I claimed Pressure. Never played with you though, Shotty, so that's why it mattered.

Do you find me scummy so far, since you said I'm not playing how you expect?
 

TekcaT

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I know that people have N1 actions, and that is exactly why I was wondering why you did not wait until D2 to claim, when we would (possibly) have someone to back your statement.

I'm going off of a few past games I skimread where you & John played together; your play here is striking me as different when I compare.
 

Kantrip

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I know that people have N1 actions, and that is exactly why I was wondering why you did not wait until D2 to claim, when we would (possibly) have someone to back your statement.

I'm going off of a few past games I skimread where you & John played together; your play here is striking me as different when I compare.
I'm not worried about my statement being credible. I don't even know if people are aware if multiple PP get burned (I'd assume so, but it's not for sure). If someone wants to waste their Night and 2 PP of their ability backing my claim, they can go right ahead.

You didn't answer my question. I know you find my play DIFFERENT, I want to know if that makes it SCUMMY.
 

Kantrip

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Unvote



Trying reeeaaal hard to be null.
Gimme something new. Your next post has one point raised that I haven't seen raised before. Just one. That's not too hard.




Thumbs up JoJo.



Interesting.
Ranmaru does know that people got on his wagon with a low amount of reason provided, yet he never defended himself from that. I would expect RanmaruScum to be defensive in that aspect.


I'll fight the fact that I'm a hipster with fiery passion :mad:


*nod nod*
Good catch.




I love you so much haha.



Joey can be our confirmed town girl who scum has to shoot or else he gets a free pass to endgame while being confirmed town. Nabe, agreed to this?



Mhm?
Would you consider hypocrisy a scum tell, Zen? We've been over this before, iirc.


But you wanted Marshy in here... :v

also dat farfetch'd. Dig it.

No idea what to think of Zen at this moment. Might just go the Gorf route and start reading him D2. I like his game-plan a lot but his execution is sloppy at times. Gonna have to wait that one out.

Ranmaru is a town lean.

So let's go with Red Ruy or Tekcat. I saw that babyboyZen already went to Tekky, so I'm down with joining that wagon. Vote: Tekcat

Zen, indulge me with some information. Play some more cards. I'm not withholding them either. It'll be just fine.
I like Xonar's style of posting like this when he gives a little bit of explanation like he does here.

Slight town lean on Xonar. His reads are similar to mine too, which is neat and has never happened before with anyone.
 

Kantrip

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Btw you caught me I am the Lich, Evil Roleblocking Yakuza.

WL should let me get into a 3 man lylo like Circus didn't so I can recruit Raziek like i wanted to in that game.

:phone:
Eww. This is the reaction to being called scum?

Vote: Red Ruy

Done for now. Going to go play some LoL.
 

Kantrip

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Actually one more thing.

It makes it a slight scum lean to me at this moment, yes.
Take some time with this one, I want a good answer. Why is playing differently a scum tell? I can tell that's all you're looking at. It's really superficial, and I hate it.

FoS: TeckaT
 

#HBC | Ryker

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I claim Vig.

I will be shooting Xonar or Kantrip. The other will be getting lynched today. Sort that out amongst yourselves.
 

JTB

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I haven't read at all but I'm down with sheeping ryker today

vote kantrip

:phone:
 

#HBC | Gorf

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Read up. In short, I don't like Kantrip, I (still) have qualms with Ranmaru, but most of all I'd want Dark Horse dead. Any of those three from last to first are the only lynches I'll be cool with. I'll be more motivated during the Night after AP's are said and done, pinky promise.
 

#HBC | Ryker

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Joey, I'm the only player who would make anything of that extension. I would much rather it go to night phase so I can shoot something.
 

Kantrip

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No. This isn't happening. Give me something to refute as to why I'm scum, because I guarantee I can do it. I did my catchup so carefully with no distractions and a can of coke beside me, and I felt so good about it. How is it that everyone (or at least Ryker, which is effectively the same thing) hates me from just that? Give me something to work with here. I am NOT getting lynched D1 AGAIN for **** sakes.

Also, Ryker: Why did you say you weren't sure about a gen claim and then immediately claim your flavour and gen? I could care less if you're really Maractus, Town Cactus Vig or whatever the **** you're going to try to pull out of your ***, but I'm not sure what you're doing disagreeing with a mass gen claim and then claiming gen.
 

Kantrip

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JTB get off the wagon. Red Ruy you better not ****ing join it on basis that "Ryker has your vote". After my mislynch, town will have NOTHING to go off of, because half the wagon will have the "I was just sheeping Ryker, don't blame me" excuse.

It is so anti-town to sheep someone for the D1 wagon like that because it removes any information that could be gleaned from the lynch. Town needs to join lynches they actually believe in so they can be held accountable for their actions. Otherwise they'll end up being question marks who never took any actions of their own free will and either can't be held accountable or can be falsely accused (which means no matter their alignment it is bad) and will either get to coast or be a mislynch (scum/town respectively).

If I'm going to get lynched, I want each and every person on the wagon to have a justifiable place on it. But I'm not getting lynched.
 
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