Laundry's All-Stars Pokemon Mafia -- Pokeballs to the Pokewalls!

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I did quote it to remind myself to reply to it but I wrote it off as RVS.

Yes, Xonar.

His post is way too difficult to comprehend D:.

Took the comments by Joey as jokes and moved on.

Gonna do stuff now.

 

[Ramen King]

1. Ryker
2. DOOMS
3. Xonar
4. Raziek
5. TekcaT (John/Johnbro Hydra)
6. Gorf
7. Dark Horse
8. Red Ruy
10. Ranmaru
11. Nabe
12. Kantrip
13. T-Block
14. JTB

Holy crap this game is only 6 days and hardly anyone on this list has given much content. Of anyone, I'd say Dark Horse is the scummiest so far. So far he has only jumped on what's popular with very little legitimate reasoning (Ranmaru > Tec). Dark Horse why did you unvote Ranmaru? Do you still think he is scum?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Dunno if I like gen claiming out of the gate without so ething to cross reference. Don't mind it later on sometime in Day 2.

I'm Marctus from newest gen, I think.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Unvote

Kidding? I'm the traitor obvs

I hate you.

Erm...

What do I do now, Xonar? I wasn't prepared for this Q_Q.

We kill the batman.
But on a more serious note;
Why do you ask me? What did you want to do?

Unvote; Vote: T-block

Man I'm about to pull a 180.

What are you doing, TekcaT is still a nice target.

A letter to Xonar
No it would no be profitable to deduct the reasons. For me to assume that I know what your thought process would be basically giving you a pass on reasoning. It makes me and others have to assume the best in you as if you actually had legit reasoning. Plus your statements pretty much contradict the point.

>you can deduce it
>the people who they are talking about can't deduce it

This is not the case. If I can deduce it there is no reason to assume they can't deduce it. If they can't deduce it there's no reason to assume that I can deduce it.

So no, it's not a good way to play.

Very fair point. One flaw; the person getting accused doesn't know for sure. Neither do other players, but in that case an other player at least saw something new.

So you're saying the post isn't scummy, but the fact that I didn't ask anyone else? I wasn't interested in any others' response at the time, only yours. Furthermore, just asking anyone to join a town alliance is dumb and takes away the point. Yeah there was nothing scummy about that at all. You're weird.

I figured the goal was the alliance, not initial responses. Looks like I overestimated you.
Also, why am I the only one you were interested n w.r.t responses? That makes no sense. In early game, you're going to try to gather as much information as possible. Why not ask Joey? etc etc

Haha no lol. How dumb. There's a difference between lying and joking. That was clearly a joke. To think that someone saying that they were scum seriously is only for the domain of ******* and ranmaru.

Good answer.

I was responding to Joey. He made mention that my I was being hypocritical. I was showing him there wasn't anything hypocritical about it.

It caught my attention that you even bothered replying to it. That's all.

Xonar what do you mean we talked about what before in your opening post? Or were you just joking?

Remember the day we met? You claimed scum in G3S and I told you I don't take kindly to people who claim scum.

Xonar why did you ask me what you should do in your second post? Why me specifically that is, and why did you not follow up on it?

I did follow up on it, then you said "I'd say vote ranmaru but let's form a town alliance".
Why you is because you claimed scum, so I asked you DOUSHIO?!
It had comedic intentions.

Xonar you do not have a trainer? You said you are a pokemon, but the roles give a person's name and then their pokemon companion.

Yes I have a trainer. I read over that part because his name is ****s, the mod also faked me out by giving me a Magikarp role before my real role, making me not really focus on that.

What do people think about an abductor being in the game?

Possible. Speculation territory though.

Do you guys think the weather affects the day/night in some sort of way? As in pokemon abilities, etc.

Day/night? Don't think so. Maybe other elements.

Xonar why were you interested in Tec, specifically when he entered the game? You asked him about Dooms and Ran. You asked Joey and I questions when we entered as well. I'm curious as to why you chose specific people, while passing over Ran and T-Block.

Because he jumped in and said nothing. I asked him for more information because there was stuff to comment on. Ranmaru I know will post more and there wasn't anything (big) to comment on when he joined. T-Block I liked coming in so no problem letting him do his thing.

Xonar #136. Did you plan to play this way before the game?

Yes. The idea was born from reading while dead in Ryker, and how I felt the urge to comment on things, if only really quickly. Wondered how it would translate in the game. Decided to add misinformation in there in limited amounts to see what would happen with that.

Will actually read, vote and ask questions later.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Also sorry for my relative inactivity this game but final exams starting Monday and I have a lot to do etc etc blablabla

 

[Dooms]

So yeah the second part was serious. Don't you agree that you wouldn't have needed to give serious reason as to why fluff is bad if you didn't really find Ranmaru's post as fluff & bad?

Xonar I would like your take on this as well.

Sure. I wouldn't have needed to.

We kill the batman.
But on a more serious note;
Why do you ask me? What did you want to do?

Killing B-B-Batman? That's so sugoi~

Because I feel like I can trust your opinion when it comes to questioning people.

I wanted to question him more, but no point in questioning something that was a mistake lol. Kinda nulls any questions I can ask about the topic.

 

[T-block]

morning ^^

outstanding questions for zen:
-explain the pro-town motivation behind pushing the ran lynch
-explain your vote on me

i think i'm gonna give up trying to read zen for now - maybe i'll let others read him for me...somebody should cop him though. i still want answers though, zen. if you intend to dodge them all game, at least come out and say you're not going to answer.

Of anyone, I'd say Dark Horse is the scummiest so far. So far he has only jumped on what's popular with very little legitimate reasoning (Ranmaru > Tec). Dark Horse why did you unvote Ranmaru? Do you still think he is scum?

agreed with this though.

i get a bad feel from his defense of zen. it feels much more like he wants to avoid opposing a player who has already shown himself to be able to get what he wants, so to speak. then, as zen said, there's the hops onto the ran and tec wagons without much substantiation. in 204, he says he originally disliked tekcat, but he had never mentioned tekcat before that. even his mention of raziek feels out of place... kind of a "i'll mention raziek since no one else has and it'll look like i'm doing something" type thing. he's trying very hard to stay off of everyone's radar.

 

[T-block]

xonar, talk to me about DH. why were you so much harsher against RR than against DH when they've essentially given us the same amount of content?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Content what is that?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

DoomTown.
TBlockTown

Look he got caught role fishing me and now chooses to ignore me?

Zen how can you seriously have a scumread on me via meta? How come you havent commented on anyone getting on my wagon without reason?

RanmaruTown

Unvote

He's at L-1 and I have no idea what's happening. No thank you.

RykerTown.

I'm not sure about Zen's play this game. Gonna re-evaluate him.

Results from this?


Just realized I never played with Nabe before. Zen, what can I expect out of him?

Haha. In the first post you're arguing that I wasn't legitimate in wanting to lynch him and that I was role fishing. Then it's shown that I was legitimate and you say I should be put down for that. One of the other Nabe.

Love this point. Would like to read more into Nabe, but no idea how to go about that. Should probably tell me that too, Zen.

Ryker gets my vote for today, wherever he tells me to vote I will as well.

Btw you caught me I am the Lich, Evil Roleblocking Yakuza.

WL should let me get into a 3 man lylo like Circus didn't so I can recruit Raziek like i wanted to in that game.

Seriously down for going with this guy.

People are finding Zen's rolefishing to be suspicious? Man, it's exactly what zen would do. Not supporting his lynch.

Originally disliked Tekcat because of his cop-out response, but upon a reread, he's even worse. He manages to avoid everything around him, and seems to be trying not to be a presence.

Unvote, Vote: Tekcat

Dislike Raz for coming in, asking if zen ever learned, and popping back out.

Not liking this guy either. Down with this route too.

Looking at that Ran/Zen interaction earlier today was good info.

As for Ran, here's my synopsis on that interaction from earlier today:

Zen tries to tell Ran that he got quicklynched; Ran does not claim (a decent idea for this early D1).
Zen's 163,

This shows me that Zen is pretty much dead set on having Ran killed. At this early in the game. Which I do not like.
Also a mass claim at this point is just stupid, Zen. Think about it a bit.

Vote: RamenZen

The bolded I like. Overall not too fond of this slot though. Mhm.

That's all I got on a reread. Questions will come later if I have any. Don't really remember much popping up.


Willing to wagon:
TekcaT (John/Johnbro Hydra) (open for pressure)
Dark Horse
Red Ruy
Nabe

Excluding people who haven't posted yet.

Choose one Zen and we'll jump on that guy and I'll ask that guy some questions. Only if you give adequate reasoning.

Replying to TBLOCK sec

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

xonar, talk to me about DH. why were you so much harsher against RR than against DH when they've essentially given us the same amount of content?

Essentially, yes. I expect more out of RR than DH though, and RR started off doing the wack vote-give thing, which I didn't like at all.

DH's post promised content to some degree. First post wasn't good but besides him being in my watch list it wasn't a biggy yet.

 

[T-block]

you're weird this game, xonar =\ why is that?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Well it's not my intention >_>

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Like, I eeven decided to get rid of that playstyle.

 

[T-block]

DH/xonar scumteam? i could see it.

xonar,
how is ryker anything other than null? the reason you gave in 250 is hella naive.
also, liking tekcat for telling zen to think before proposing massclaim is odd.
where has DH promised content? is the amount of content he's provided sufficient for someone who's been keeping up with this game (and has even reread [204])?
i think DH has been trying to fake being an active contributor in a sense, whereas RR isn't trying to project that image. RR knows he's not going to be able to claim he was contributing, and he's also said he's been too busy to read. it's not so much about quality of town contribution, but rather DH is scummy in his lack of contribution, while RR is null. agree/disagree?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

xonar,
how is ryker anything other than null? the reason you gave in 250 is hella naive.

You're telling me Ryker can't just pretend to not have visited the thread and kept his vote there?

also, liking tekcat for telling zen to think before proposing massclaim is odd.

That's not odd.
It's more the intention that TekcaT shows. He wants to make Zen think. It's just not a sentence I'd see scum putting there, do you?

where has DH promised content? is the amount of content he's provided sufficient for someone who's been keeping up with this game (and has even reread [204])?

No, it's not. Like I said, I'm down with pressuring him.
There's more promise of content in his opening post as opposed to Red Ruy's had. That's what I was saying.

DH's post (not plural)

i think DH has been trying to fake being an active contributor in a sense, whereas RR isn't trying to project that image. RR knows he's not going to be able to claim he was contributing, and he's also said he's been too busy to read. it's not so much about quality of town contribution, but rather DH is scummy in his lack of contribution, while RR is null. agree/disagree?

Yes, of course I have thought about this. Like I said, I'm down with pressuring DH. I even said I don't like him (aka scum). You're pretending like my reaction to both their first posts determine my entire thought of the slot. It's not that way.

RR's first post was bad because he avoided commenting without giving us anything else. RR is a pretty okay player. I can't live with that.
DH's first post was a rehash of information, showing that he is at least willing to comment, if only sheeping (for now). DH is a pretty bad player. I can live with that.

RR's later posts include his vote giving and overall null posts. Bad vibes.
DH's later posts include more rehashing and no new information or anything except sheeping. Bad vibes.


So yes, DH is scummy. RR is on my "watch list".

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

For Ryker, as an add: it's nice for scum to be able to leave their vote somewhere, yet he took it off Ranmaru as first.

Not that weird to base a town read on. :v

 

[T-block]

You're telling me Ryker can't just pretend to not have visited the thread and kept his vote there?

i'm telling you it's not unlikely that he would do it as scum for town cred, no? i reread and saw that he actually unvoted before zen called it a lynch (i thought he did it after), so i can see where you're getting the idea. regardless, it's a choice between a small chance at an accidental lynch and guaranteed town cred. not unreasonable for scum to choose town cred. hence why i called it naive.

That's not odd.
It's more the intention that TekcaT shows. He wants to make Zen think. It's just not a sentence I'd see scum putting there, do you?

i don't see why scum wouldn't say that lol

Yes, of course I have thought about this. Like I said, I'm down with pressuring DH. I even said I don't like him (aka scum). You're pretending like my reaction to both their first posts determine my entire thought of the slot. It's not that way.

well you can see how i get that impression when literally the only thing you said about DH before i asked you was this:

Trying reeeaaal hard to be null.
Gimme something new. Your next post has one point raised that I haven't seen raised before. Just one. That's not too hard.

while you've been pushing for votes on RR the whole game

So yes, DH is scummy. RR is on my "watch list".

yeah... your posts thus far make me think it's the other way around

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

i'm telling you it's not unlikely that he would do it as scum for town cred, no? i reread and saw that he actually unvoted before zen called it a lynch (i thought he did it after), so i can see where you're getting the idea. regardless, it's a choice between a small chance at an accidental lynch and guaranteed town cred. not unreasonable for scum to choose town cred. hence why i called it naive.

It's how you see it. Call it naieve but we're at page 7. I'll take what I can get.

i don't see why scum wouldn't say that lol

Well, I'm considering his level low. Effort to make people think is appreciated. It's little things like those I use to read "crapshoots" like TekcaT.

well you can see how i get that impression when literally the only thing you said about DH before i asked you was this:

Trying reeeaaal hard to be null.
Gimme something new. Your next post has one point raised that I haven't seen raised before. Just one. That's not too hard.

while you've been pushing for votes on RR the whole game

Context let's go:
Everything posted by Red Ruy.
Everything posted by Dark House.

at the time of the remark.

Red Ruy's post that made me want to pile on him. (note the post number of these post)

while you've been pushing for votes on RR the whole game

One/two posts? Whole game? Nope.


You see, you're taking my reaction when they both only had their first posts. Then you're misconstruing my reaction towards RR saying that I've been on his tail (heh) all game.

See, because of DH's level I preferred asking him to contribute more over than getting on him. of RR I expect more. Plus that ugly action made.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

My grammar/sentences are being 2am level. I'm out for the night.

 

[Ramen King]

I figured the goal was the alliance, not initial responses. Looks like I overestimated you.
Also, why am I the only one you were interested n w.r.t responses? That makes no sense. In early game, you're going to try to gather as much information as possible. Why not ask Joey? etc etc

Same reason why any body asks people something specific. Such as how you're asking Joey about reading Ranmaru or asking me specifically about Nabe. If you wanted to gain as much information as possible, you would be asking everyone for their opinion, not just one. I'm really not seeing how you feel it is odd for me to ask you only. You gauge the intentions of different people in different ways.

Sure. I wouldn't have needed to.

lol ok then. I don't even remember what I was going on about now.

outstanding questions for zen:
-explain the pro-town motivation behind pushing the ran lynch
-explain your vote on me

i think i'm gonna give up trying to read zen for now - maybe i'll let others read him for me...somebody should cop him though. i still want answers though, zen. if you intend to dodge them all game, at least come out and say you're not going to answer.

Those are over and done with bro. You were pretty much a place holder vote. I didn't like the way you joined me on Ran. It would have been fine had you just voted, but the way you were questioning me about his meta was like you were trying to look setup a reason to vote. Like there wasn't a need to look into it so deeply that early in the game, so your inquiring was unnecessary, and the only motivation I see behind it is trying to look like you were justifiable in voting him.

--

RykerTown.

I do not like this. You're really going to read Ryker based off of face value content? To me that unvote was way too pretty to be anything but to look good.

Just realized I never played with Nabe before. Zen, what can I expect out of him?

To tunnel me.

Would like to read more into Nabe, but no idea how to go about that. Should probably tell me that too, Zen.

I'm going to hold off on this. I don't want it to influence his play.

Choose one Zen and we'll jump on that guy and I'll ask that guy some questions. Only if you give adequate reasoning.

Dark Horse. See 242.

---

Eager to see Ryker's reasoning on Xoni

 

[Ramen King]

2nd quote @ Joey
3rd quote @ T-Blocl

look setup > look setup

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ewwwwwwwwwwww.

Xonar's reasoning for town on me is completely correct, but incredibly null. Would be hefty meta that I haven't talked about, but nine times out of ten, as scum, I keep that vote on Ran because I don't have a better use for it and keeping someone at L-1 with Zen around can become profitable. The only thing that really makes me feel better about Xonar is that he could have just made that correct read. Which is nice and all, but he could simply be trying to play to me. Which would be no bueno. I want to look at his approach and compare it to the start of Ryker mafia and how he treated Swiss.

I've skimmed.

For now, I crash.

 

[Sato.]

Replace my slot with this slot. It's a hydra between me and Thiocyanide.
Will put that in the location.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Scumbag Xonar.

Going to restrict hydras, hydras with newer player.

 

[Sato.]

I might replace this hydra out in 3 days.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Will be not an inactive f*** after this week ends, promise <3. In the mean time unvote till I actually invest my time into this game.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Who the dildos is Thiocya-

>Xonar's account is banned.

Reaaaaaaaaaalllllyyyyyy.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Xonar don't post on a hydra while you are banned from the site.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

How long does the ban last?

 

[Ramen King]

3 days.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

gogdammit.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Consider it a V/LA for now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I really just wanna call Zen town off what he did and how he has been playing, I hate it to hell which is a town tell to me.

Don't like Ran either, he went on a tangent over how Zen approached RvS and took him claiming scum as a scum tell because it is Zen when really anyone claiming a scum role should be taken as a null unless they intent to go through with it all the way and claim scum. Which they do not do without a reason I might add.

T-Block isn't starting as scum like in old games with him, town lean in a sense where I like , mostly needs a look closer at intent. Don't like his DH vote in his #227 since it seems premature, but at the same time idk how familiar T-Block is with Zen off hand, since what DH said is the truth in a sense from my past game experience. Still comfortable with him here, might get my vote later if I ever dislike intently where Ryker might put it.

Ryker though, like the Xonar suspicion. He can have my vote and control it.

Joey is approaching this game pretty well I'd say. Idk how to put it into words right now.

Xonar don't like how he approached me on my not giving content. Defiantly looks like Ryker mafia with what he did with Swiss, I'll reread it later.

Idk about anyone else.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

i kinda like the tekcat route, but at the same time, i kinda don't. i'll elaborate later.

T-Block, did you even get around to addressing this?

Why are you switching between TekcaT and Ranmaru? When you say "even worse", do you mean that he's even worse than Ranmaru or that he's even worse than what you imagined him to be in the first place?

What made your opinion change? Specific posts, please.

Not going to say anything about the Zen meta, since I'm not familiar with anyone's meta due to lack of playing. Not supporting his lynch based on meta alone though is still icky .

Vote: Dark Horse

No, I think that they're both scum. I unvoted ran because, after an ISO of takcet, he had avoided most of what was at hand completley. Before that, I thought he was suspicious because of his interactions with ran, but, after an ISO, I found out that he has done nothing at all.

Yeah well that's what you get with the hydra having things like school, Dark Horse. I'm not on 24/7.

Ruy, why the evil Lucario image?

Ran is just an interesting player. Yes, he can be good at times, but he has had stupid moments that I enjoy poking fun at where he's screwed himself over. Looking at that Ran/Zen interaction earlier today was good info.

You're still avoiding Ran? And the only other thing you talk about is the evil lucario image?

Joey you so funny. I'm playing as much as I can; I'm just not usually going to be here during normal highschool times mid-day. =P

As for Ran, here's my synopsis on that interaction from earlier today:

Zen tries to tell Ran that he got quicklynched; Ran does not claim (a decent idea for this early D1).
Zen's 163,

This shows me that Zen is pretty much dead set on having Ran killed. At this early in the game. Which I do not like.
Also a mass claim at this point is just stupid, Zen. Think about it a bit.

Vote: RamenZen

Anything else?

No you always say "confirmundo" but you changed it to "confirmamundo" lol

No, it's always confirmamundo

Xonar, why did you pick RR to originally pressure, instead of people like Gorf or Tekcat, who both were not doing much?

 

[Dooms]

Results from this?

Why did you vote Ranmaru over me?

Ranmaru actually asked a relevant question before and after the voting post (both before the quoted post above), and he was only 5 or so posts into the game. He was progressing RVS more than anyone else at that point besides Xonar.



How was it odd?

How was he still going on about it? He used it as partial scum reasoning exactly like how you're using his vote on you in the beginning of the game (also a joke) as scum reasoning against him. You're basically being hypocritical to him with your vote. It makes you look odd.



You say that he claimed scum here, although it could be considered joking.



You say that he claimed scum here as well.

Don't like the middle question. You explained why you voted him yet you're asking why he thought you voted him... You're giving him an answer, and it could easily clear the whole situation up based on that. You're basically giving him a way out of any BS he got himself into, intentionally or not.

What was the purpose of asking that question?



This post makes me like you way less lol.

You mentioned two times before this quote that he claimed scum, yet you say you haven't seen it?

Where did he say that "it didn't count because you didn't vote" or anything along those lines? I'm missing it lol.



How were the questions he was asking at the time random?

Gtg class hopefully I wrote stuff for every quote ._.

Is this the part where I 10 char dodge?

 

[Dooms]

No, I think that they're both scum. I unvoted ran because, after an ISO of takcet, he had avoided most of what was at hand completley. Before that, I thought he was suspicious because of his interactions with ran, but, after an ISO, I found out that he has done nothing at all.

What posts did you read that made you come to this conclusion? There had to be some post while you were ISO'ing that just made you go "Wtf this guy isn't doing anything at all." If that's the case, please quote the post(s).

Do you still dislike him for the fact that he has done nothing or have you changed your reasoning to disliking him for not doing anything at all? Or is it both?

Thoughts on Ranmaru after Zen's gambit?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

What posts did you read that made you come to this conclusion? There had to be some post while you were ISO'ing that just made you go "Wtf this guy isn't doing anything at all." If that's the case, please quote the post(s).

Do you still dislike him for the fact that he has done nothing or have you changed your reasoning to disliking him for not doing anything at all? Or is it both?

Thoughts on Ranmaru after Zen's gambit?

I could see Hesitating to claim as both town and scum, so I really just think it's a null tell

I still dislike Tekcat for not doing anything at all.

As for examples, this is after he came in the thread and voted RR. Xonar asked him what he thought of Joey and Ran, who had been posting (which I liked). His response?

Ran I hope you know what you are doing this game.

Dooms - wassssssssssssup bro.

Cop-outs that do absolutely nothing,

 

[Ramen King]

Dark Horse do you still think Ranmaru is scum?

 

[Ramen King]

Wait you answered that, nevermind. I don't get why you felt the need to switch off or Ran though. Do you feel you got all you needed out of him? If so what did you get? Switching from one "scum read" to another when nothing new was presented is very curious.