L cancel, Sonic specific, video proof soon.

[Boxob]

Now let me start off by saying, this will be called Box canceling.

To preform said technique, do any air, and right before you hit the ground, Side B and jump cancel it.

The window of this is very small, like the ininite jump time window small.

I haven't been able to do it yet, but Box canceled Dair to Boxcutter? Hot.

The possibilities that this has opened up for us are ridiculous, I knew from the release of this game Sonic would eventually be top tier, but now I have found something big enough to bolster such a claim.

 

[Chis]

Believe the hype!

 

[Tenki]

But you can't side-B if you haven't finished the aerial yet... right?

 

[Boxob]

No like, it isn't actually canceling the Side B, it just makes it so the aerial stops, then you can jump, or land.

But if you land and you're holding Side B, you'll start spindash up.

I think it works because the charge for side b is so instant. I haven't tried it with Ike or anyone else like that yet.

 

[Espy Rose]

Now let me start off by saying, this will be called Box canceling.

To preform said technique, do any air, and right before you hit the ground, Side B and jump cancel it.

The window of this is very small, like the ininite jump time window small.

I haven't been able to do it yet, but Box canceled Dair to Boxcutter? Hot.

The possibilities that this has opened up for us are ridiculous, I knew from the release of this game Sonic would eventually be top tier, but now I have found something big enough to bolster such a claim.

I personally think this is a boxob fib.

Needz me sum proofz.

 

[Boxob]

I personally think this is a boxob fib.

Needz me sum proofz.

How about try it, scruball64 floors in Hyrule.

 

[TheREALShadowChaos]

Pretty cool if this Spindash Cancel really exists.

 

[Espy Rose]

How about try it, scruball64 floors in Hyrule.

Only after you scrub scrub scrub all the floors in Gamelon...

But in all srsness, I'm turning my Wii on to try it right now...

Exactly what is the timing for this? Right before you land for an aerial, then side-B jump cancel before you touch ground?

Is that it?

 

[Boxob]

Only after you scrub scrub scrub all the floors in Gamelon...

But in all srsness, I'm turning my Wii on to try it right now...

Exactly what is the timing for this? Right before you land for an aerial, then side-B jump cancel before you touch ground?

Is that it?

Pretend as if you didn't do an aerial, as if you were going to do ISJ's, you won't see the anaimation for Side B coming out, not sure if you can do this with Down B.

 

[Umby]

The timing is the exact same as the time it takes to scrub scrub scrub all the floors in my lair?!

 

[Boxob]

I'm starting to think you can't do it with Dairs, which is really upsetting. :/

 

[Espy Rose]

Pretend as if you didn't do an aerial, as if you were going to do ISJ's, you won't see the anaimation for Side B coming out, not sure if you can do this with Down B.

Don't throw around Sonic terminology with me Boxob, I'm clueless when it comes to that.

ISJ?

Infinite Spin Jump? I dunno.

 

[Boxob]

Don't throw around Sonic terminology with me Boxob, I'm clueless when it comes to that.

ISJ?

Infinite Spin Jump? I dunno.

Yeah.

 

[Umby]

Infinite Second Jump. Something SamuraiPanda found out about buffering a second jump after a second jump. Not really infinite though.

 

[Espy Rose]

I think I just did it.

He doesn't go into Side-B, but just jumps before hitting the ground, right?

If so, wouldn't it just be more effective to auto-cancel them?

 

[Boxob]

That's it. But you have full DI on the jumps, Why auto cancel?

Spin charge out of the jump from a bair, Follow up with a spincharge to fair.

Hot.

 

[Espy Rose]

That's it. But you have full DI on the jumps, Why auto cancel?

Spin charge out of the jump from a bair, Follow up with a spincharge to fair.

Hot.

I'm having a bit of complications on the application.

I need a video to go any further.

 

[Chis]

Wow. I should have never have doubted Boxob...

Mercy! O_O

 

[Boxob]

I'm having a bit of complications on the application.

I need a video to go any further.

It's not hard, at least not after the actual cancel.

You're in the air after the aerial, you can do one of two things.

Land.

Spin charge to advance forward at high speeds and do combos that usually are not possible.

 

[Napilopez]

This sounds very interesting. Also Umby, its not exactly infinite second jump, because sonic is doing it out of his spin dash XD. I think, lol.

I'm starting to think you can't do it with Dairs, which is really upsetting. :/

Hmm you sure its not an issue with timing? As I assume it would be significantly more difficult to time with the Dair because of its fall speed.

 

[Umby]

This sounds very interesting. Also Umby, its not exactly infinite second jump, because sonic is doing it out of his spin dash XD. I think, lol.

No, I was just telling puffball what ISJ actually meant, since Boxob referenced to it.

 

[BlueTerrorist]

I'll find a use for this as soon as i stop being lazy :/.

 

[Napilopez]

No, I was just telling puffball what ISJ actually meant, since Boxob referenced to it.

Oh okay, I was wondering since sonic's SideB infinite jump is obviously different =P.

Even though I haven't seen it yet, or even been able to try it, this makes sense to me that it would work for some reason.

SideB is like, magical.

Or just extremely glitchy, and steaklike.

Spin Shot, infinite jumps, invincibility, now Box cancelling? XD.

 

[Boxob]

I think it is tming, im just having trouble with it, it literally makes the window like tree times smaller, if it is possible D:

 

[thecatinthehat]

Boxob found a tech? lol my sig is doing wonders......

 

[Napilopez]

Again, I haven't even seen the tech in use, but I can see applications, as its basically making it less time between one aerial and another.


Just to be clear on what this tech does, if someone had godly finger speed, would that person technically be able to imitate something mildy similar to the effect of performing repeated dairs on a grounded spring?

And have you tested this with nairs? Just as proof that it is actually cancelling the move, since sonics other aetials can autocancel, but nair actually has a really tiny amount of landing frames.

Actually, if you could cancel fast falled Fairs, then this thing would be so much more awesome. That would seriously be an awesome appliction, a huge string of lagless short hopped fairs XD

EDIT: Oh well I assume you wouldn't be able to do multiple short hopped fast fall fairs because the inifinite sideB jump only allows you to do a double jump right? I'm not sure since i haven't actually done it XD

DOUBLE EDIT: Oh and are you still able to shield cancel the SideB if you hold it? That would also add to its usefulnessification.

 

[Chis]

Could someone with a recording device have a match with Bosob while he tries to do a Box cancel?

 

[memphischains]

box, is this that thing we were talking about on aim?

 

[Tenki]

I haven't tried it yet

but if it's legit:

wtf?

I'm the only one allowed to find stuff D:
jaykay.

but wut, it doesn't work with D-air you say?

 

[Napilopez]

I haven't tried it yet

but if it's legit:

wtf?

I'm the only one allowed to find stuff D:
jaykay.

but wut, it doesn't work with D-air you say?

Yea =/ But then I suggested it might be a timing issue, which he agreed because you're falling like much quicker than a normal fastfall, so the window for doing this is much tinier, you'll need godly finger speed to cancel a dair with this, since you need to do it riiighhtttt as you/before you touch the ground. XD.

I hope something special comes out of this, yo.

Even though it doesn't seem the hyphen smash/DAC thing doesn't seem like much will coem out of it, imagine if something did?

Two Techs in one week? Crazyness XD =P

 

[Camalange]

Man this board is on a roll. And wow, a legit Boxob thread. I wish I could try this right now but I can't...I can do the ISJ with Bowser because his is extremely easy.

So it actually cancels all landing lag if done correctly? That would be insane if this proves to be true.

 

[thecatinthehat]

In think I've done it. It does look useful but shit, the timing out of a short hop is small as hell.

Full hop bair is so sexy with this. Creates a wall of bair goodness.

You can't do this without your second jump.

Possible with the down-b. I actually prefer using the down b

 

[Espy Rose]

In think I've done it. It does look useful but shit, the timing out of a short hop is small as hell.

Full hop bair is so sexy with this. Creates a wall of bair goodness.

You can't do this without your second jump.

Possible with the down-b. I actually prefer using the down b

Is there any possible way you or Boxob can:

1. Elaborate on the execution, timing, and how the animation looks, so I can know what to look for when I get the timing down right.

2. Post up a video of you doing it?

 

[Boxob]

Anyone have any luck with Dair?

I have something pretty amazing to tell you all when I get back to my house.

 

[thecatinthehat]

I wouldn't really call it cancelling. May be chaining?

Nah I can't dair.

Puffball, It;s kinda hard to explain, I'm not even sure I'm doing exactly what Boxob is doing. But the point is, we have something here.

 

[Espy Rose]

Alright then. I guess I'll just wait until Boxob posts again, or until a video is posted up.

 

[Hitaku]

This sounds interesting / promising. I'll be looking forward to a video. =)

 

[memphischains]

This sounds interesting/promising. I'll be looking forward to a video. =)

stop posting

 

[Hitaku]

stop posting

I don't really know you well enough to know if you are generally like this. Either way, I'm not sure what I've done to offend you. God forbid I express my interest in something. lol

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

In think I've done it. It does look useful but shit, the timing out of a short hop is small as hell.

That's not even really a problem. You just have to LEARN the timing. Super Wavedash was like... 1 frame IIRC. Anybody ever waveshine? This shouldn't be THAT hard to do consistently once you learn it.


Anybody have an estimate on the frames?