Vote: ranmaru
I don't agree with your logic behind your posts. I think it's scummy.
Why am I scummy? : ]
Vote: Ranmaru
His playstyle is very weird and is making it seem like he's nervous. This isn't a definitive vote yet though, I could be persuaded to change it.
Hmmm, not nervous at all. My playstyle is weird? : [ How is that?
Vote: Ranmaru
He is now at L-2, note that any attempt to end the Day early (i.e before I say its OK) will be taken to mean you are scum. Premature hammers are anti-town as they stop town from being able to gather information
Mhmm. See, thing is, I have been trying to create discussion the whole time, even before the game started.
@Nabe: Ran said himself that the least scummy thing to do in his opinion was to let your thoughts out. He said that if you make it clear you don't hide your intentions and talk a lot about what you are thinking, it makes you seem very pro-town, and that when you're quiet, it comes across as scummy.
It seems odd to me that he gave out the advice "be vocal, you will look like town" to people and now he is being /very/ vocal. It is like he is trying to talk way too much, kind of fluffing up his posts, to follow his own advice and look pro-town, when maybe he's not. All this talk is making him come across as nervous to me and not vanilla.
It's my opinion though, and as I'm not sure he's scum, no more than I am sure that any of you are town. So my vote is to put pressure on him and to confirm my leanings toward him, and I could be convinced to change it or unvote if our attentions turn to someone else, or if it seems like there is going to be a premature hammer.
Edit: I was posting this as Nabe was posting the above post, and I guess it kind of answers his question? I'll think about it though. Wait no. It doesn't at all, his above post is not about Ran. @_@ Got confused.
Ah ok. No, how do I seem nervous? Can you refer to a post that shows a nervous expression? You seem to thinking I'm trying to teach scum how to appear town... You did notice me saying being reserved for too long might be scummy,
but you didn't notice me saying that you could ALSO just be indecisive? This, could mostly be a null tell.
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Without voice or opinion, people can't question or note "Hey, he might be right, Let me ask that person questions to verify it"
When did I say it will make you
seem town? I said this, and The Good Doctor does exactly that, agree blindly to X1's opinion. Do you think this statement is wrong?
Also, I never said the exact word vocal, but voice. : ]
No, I'm telling town what I believe. I am always vocal, regardless. Even if people will suspect me (and people do) it is for the good of town. Priority for town, is not survival, but hunting scum. (Then survival)
I honestly think that he was just trying to get her talking, to try and get more information from her. People who jump into things asking questions can look a little scummy, but I don't know Dourin's past play. He could just be an aggressive player who wants to get the answers, even as a townie. I would say that this is certainly less scummy looking than the tactic of "name 3 people who you would lynch even though we have not even started yet" that Ran used.
Conclusion: I would say that he is probably trying to get her to talk, to just try to get a feel for everyone. However, due to his behavior, I would keep an eye on him.
I never said "Make a list of 3 people you'd lynch". I said make a scum list. Plus, I wasn't even sure of my list, why would I lynch them?
I just think he's trying to convince the newer players that he's townie and not scum by obviously following his own advice.
No, I am always vocal. I will give my opinion to town, and then town can think amongst themselves about it.
I'm going to be pretty liberal with my scumhunting this game and share it round so everyone gets some. Normally I would only focus on my main 1 or 2 scumpicks however since its often hard to get a solid read on new players I will make sure I get as solid a read as I can on everyone before I start pushing for anyones lynch.
Regardless of what I just said I am going to throw it out there that I believe Dourin to be pretty much confirmed town because of his post #50. I would like everyone to comment on this please, especially those who have posted very little so far
No, I'm sure anyone regardless of alignment could ask an IC to post since both factions could be lost, not just town.
unvote
B/c X1 is very deceptive!
Meaning you agreed with him without questioning, correct? Try not to do that, it's dangerous for town.
Do not forget, Scum must manipulate town into getting myslynches. So second guess everything, even me.
I understand that, as long as the doc/cop keep in mind that 2 out of the 9 opinions on who to cop/protect are from scum themselves then it seems fine, but putting those opinions in context with the rest of discussion in the thread is definitely necessary.
Okay keeping this in mind, Ran's and The Good Doctors posts have definitely stood out to me. Ran's posts are usually pretty lengthy, and I do believe that is his style, but there has been some fluff too which is suspicious. The Good Doctor, on the other hand, has provided very little insight into his actions so far, and he has yet to address Dourin's question or Ran's question as to why he listed himself on his own scum list on page #51.
Vote: The Good Doctor
I would like to know more about your feelings about Ran (as you voted him but didn't really explain why) and your answers to the questions posed to you by Ran and Dourin.
Based on the fact that he also posed questions to Joey and The Good Doctor, I agree that his questions are aimed at getting people active and talking.
I think that Dourin has done a lot to stimulate scum-hunting; this and his willingness to ask people questions and learn more about them and their play style does read town to me thus far.
Mhmm. The thing is, the scum can't really say anything hurtful to town because that would be an obv scum tell. Even so, it's two people out of 9. Would you think they would oppose the other 7 when it would come to cop/doc directing?
His post 50 doesn't make me think auto town. I don't get what I'm missing at all ._.
Also unvote
vote: The Good Doctor
I'm not liking the way you're saying things. It seems like you're just following X1. If he turns out to be scum, then the game has basicly become 6v3 instead of 7v2 >_>
I agree, he is following X1, probably because he is an IC and The Good Doctor knows that X1 may be right, and not himself.
@Joey: Just think about intent, it was a very townie thing to do asking the ICs to actually help move the game along, and no offence but I dont believe Dourin to be capable of faking that subtle a tell, especially at a point where no real scumhunting is being done
No, but he asked because he was unsure of what to do. That just seems null, neither town nor scum.
I agree That Dourin isn't capable of such a mind game. I rally over thought it.
@Ran
My vote was pure random, but the fact is I think you ARE capable of looking very helpful when you are infact scum.
Adding myself to my own list was just to spark entertainment. In hindsight it was a bad idea for me.
Do you know, if you are scum, and you vote me/state i'm scum, you could be either bussing me (why so early in the game), or clearing me as town. Why would scum target their own partner? (IC please explain bussing)
@Dourin
Self hammering as in putting myself on my own list?
Vote Ranmaru
Just bc you seem to not have a problem answering any question, it may seem you are trying to help out, but I cant help to thing you have other plans. What do others think of this?
So you say I
should have a problem? What other plans do you think I have?
:|... Thanks I guess?
Self-hammering is voting yourself when you are on L-1 when to end the game early.
As for these questions that are about people's standings on the game: I like to know what people think are the best options, so I can actually tell if they are keeping to their word.
Now for what I think about players in this game...
X1-12 - I'd like to believe he's town, but yeah, you can't have the world.
Top Ranger Skye - ?? I forgot she was in the game. Can you start talking? You've made one post since the game has begun.
The good doctor - I think if I had to shoot one person at this moment, it would be you. I don't like the way you play, and the colours are a bit... useless, to me. Also, putting yourself in the list makes me wonder if you're liable enough >_<.
July - Making a good effort.
-Joey- - Same as above.
Oki - You have a sharp eye, I agree mostly on your view with Ranmaru, but I'm not sure why you are telling everyone that's it's just a vote for pressure and you could easily be convinced to vote someone else. I mean, sharing thoughts is good, but not everything needs to be shared. This takes a lot of pressure of your only weapon.
Ranmaru - You try to look town a lot. I can't say that's a tell, because according to the Theory of Dourin, all newbies want to stay alive and play for as long as possible. Looking town sometimes helps your chances, or decimate them.
vote: Top Ranger Skye
2 questions next;
Question to everyone
-1) What do you think of the 'lynch all lurkers'-policy. It means killing players who post very little (content) on Day 1 or maybe Day 2, so we don't get stuck with them in the more vital parts of the game.
The cost of this is not being able to go for who we think looks scummy on Day 1 (on the other hand, you might catch a lurker scum

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-2) To whoever reads this, this is both to see wether you skim posts or not, and to see your opinion at this moment. Can everyone post the answer to this:
If you -had to- shoot one person right as you read this, who would it be, and a reason would always be nice.
No, I'm not trying to look town at all. From the beginning I have been trying to get discussion going. Also, you comment on The Good Doctor's Colors, but not mine? I used yellow green and red, he used red and pink. What is wrong with colors?
Well, I wouldn't mind lynching someone who is inactive or posting little to no content. We can't determine a person's alignment if they don't contribute, and they can be scum just laying low until Lylo. That, is too easy of a win. This, I learned from my first game.
I'd also shoot the Good Doctor. He put himself on his list (although this should not be read alone, since it seems silly) and he seems to follow anyone with 'power' on whatever they say.
Although, I wouldn't shoot him so quickly. I'd rather see what else he says so others can be connected to him. Yeah, I don't skim. I read posts over and over again.
Also, I'm more into town winning, then surviving. But, if I were lynched, I'd like for people to make connections to my death.
The Good Doctor would be scum because he knew I was town, and would therefore vote me as his scapegoat. Of course, we'll have to see who he would target next. Also we don't really know, though, since without flips we don't have real info, but The Good Doctor is the only lead for now.
We must also think of the people who he is ignoring/not attacking.
The colors were out of total boredom. I'm sorry if it bugged anyone else.
@dourin
I'm glad someone else has the same feelings on Ranmaru as I do.
I would not support your lynching idea b/c I think scum would try and be semi active to not
aris suspicion.
I would shoot X1 b/c I frankly think he is in the best position in this game currently as in looking very town and looking trustworthy. If he is indeed scum he's doing a very good job.
The colors are fine. Also, why are you glad someone feels the same way about me? Scum can also be inactive, we don't know that.
The Good Doctor, I definitely like that you are explaining more, and when it comes to Ran I agree that he has been focused on "helping the town" more than just downright scum-hunting.
Dourin, I noticed that you didn't mention the other IC, Nabe, in your list of players. How do you feel about Nabe so far in game?
Top Skye Ranger...please talk, we need to learn more about you and how you feel about what has been going on so far.
On the lynch all lurkers policy, I disagree with lynching someone for inactivity on Day 1, especially considering that the game started near the holidays. However, by Day 2, if someone continues to lurk then that is a major problem, by that point they should have enough information to be involved in the discussions of who is scum and who should be lynched. I think that on Day 1 we need to try and draw lurkers out and get them involved, then Day 2 is make or break for them.
If I had to shoot one person right now it would be The Good Doctor, while he has been making posts with more content but his answers still haven't made me feel easy.
Right, but I was the one who asked for scum pick lists. Later on I was defending myself.
I agree, it is true that most people might have been out due to vaca, but in a regular case, I'd say Lynch All Lurkers, but waiting until d2 seems fine. I just think, the FIRST thing everyone should talk about by d2, is the inactives first.
Also,
MOD: Votecount
@Oki: No, roles are randomized, so one or both of the IC's could be town or scum regardless. Also, if one were scum and the other town to help both factions in a newbie, then there would have to be a lynch for the both of them, but, we don't know that.
That is why they post with italics at times. That, is just copypasta that shouldn't be related to their alignment. X1's thoughts about me could be. So be careful. It's easy to think they might be here to help, but they could also be there to manipulate you slightly. X1 is null to me though so I wouldn't know.