321BOOM
Smash Journeyman
I looked over the frama data, Esca's right.
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Katana_koden
Smash Ace
omg... luigi jab = 15 frames or 13
= our stun from the hit is only 12
= worse case scenario, we are still airborne with only 1 frame + our air time,
2 or 3 frames of ground lag.
luigi up B= hits on frame 6
= more than enough frames to reflect it.
Pit MS = reflects on frame 5
= including B moves have no ground lag
= about 5 extra frames to react or 10 frames between jab- up b
does that help?
= our stun from the hit is only 12
= worse case scenario, we are still airborne with only 1 frame + our air time,
2 or 3 frames of ground lag.
luigi up B= hits on frame 6
= more than enough frames to reflect it.
Pit MS = reflects on frame 5
= including B moves have no ground lag
= about 5 extra frames to react or 10 frames between jab- up b
does that help?
321BOOM
Smash Journeyman
Luigi:
SuSa's info...
Move Name: Mirror Shield
Input: Down+B
Reflects on Frame: 6-17
Super Armour: 4-5 (Grounded Only)
Duration: 41
Ravyn's info...
Down B - (Mirror Shield)
Total: 40
Comes out on frame 5
Reflects attacks on frames 5-19
According to all the data, we don't have enough time to reflect Luigi's jab > up-b combo
Pit:
SuSa's info...
Move Name: Mirror Shield
Input: Down+B
Reflects on Frame: 6-17
Super Armour: 4-5 (Grounded Only)
Duration: 41
Ravyn's info...
Down B - (Mirror Shield)
Total: 40
Comes out on frame 5
Reflects attacks on frames 5-19
According to all the data, we don't have enough time to reflect Luigi's jab > up-b combo
Esca
Smash Champion
It's inescapable.
Know how I know it doesn't work?
Marth can't up-b out if done right, a frame 1 move.
Know how I know it doesn't work?
Marth can't up-b out if done right, a frame 1 move.
Katana_koden
Smash Ace
Are you doing it wrong?... Get the timing right.
We can input our up b before luigi can
the reason his punch works is because the hit knocks you in the air.
then you are hit so low that you can't do arials in time.
then you usually hit the ground as if you fast falled, so its more lag.
there for he has enough time to up b you.
depending on how heavy you are, you hit the ground sooner, to shield it.
if we crouched, the jab, we can easily PS it.
pit's 2nd slash in his a-a-a jabs has a similar effect.
a-a- utilt
a-a-dtilt
a-a-d smash
a-a-grab
We can input our up b before luigi can
the reason his punch works is because the hit knocks you in the air.
then you are hit so low that you can't do arials in time.
then you usually hit the ground as if you fast falled, so its more lag.
there for he has enough time to up b you.
depending on how heavy you are, you hit the ground sooner, to shield it.
if we crouched, the jab, we can easily PS it.
pit's 2nd slash in his a-a-a jabs has a similar effect.
a-a- utilt
a-a-dtilt
a-a-d smash
a-a-grab
Rogue Pit
Smash Lord
Actually, I think I'm right
Cherry64
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whatever helps you sleep at night
how does pit do against gaylomar??
Rogue Pit
Smash Lord
warm milk.
Loses. 4-6
Loses. 4-6
Cherry64
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Found it out the hard way spammy grab happy oli's blow. apparently though when samus drops a bomb she misses getting grabbed by him, so that officially made my day.
spammy grab happy oli's blow. apparently though when samus drops a bomb she misses getting grabbed by him, so that officially made my day.
Phaigne
Smash Journeyman
So, guys I may have discovered something...
I doubt it's game-breaking, but it's something definitely useful.
I've had a hunch about this for awhile, and I know a few others have played around with it, but we'll see.
I'll have more info soon.
I doubt it's game-breaking, but it's something definitely useful.
I've had a hunch about this for awhile, and I know a few others have played around with it, but we'll see.
I'll have more info soon.
Esca
Smash Champion
So I just got 7th at HOBO 20, and 3rd in teams.
321BOOM
Smash Journeyman
I hate olimar. I just hate him.
Afropony
Smash Lord
Using Pit or MK or both?
Esca
Smash Champion
Pit/MK.
...
...
321BOOM
Smash Journeyman
it says you use ic's too.. >.> what's that about?
Esca
Smash Champion
i play them against falco, but it shouldn't eve count because i won after that w/ my pit
321BOOM
Smash Journeyman
Ah, Falco is pretty annoying >.<
I had to point this out:
esca -> 1337.
xD
I had to point this out:
esca -> 1337.
xD
Katana_koden
Smash Ace
i was gonna post that, 321boom, that was your post not esca's right? about ic's?
or you took his 1337ness.
Hey I did some matches against some guys that only do teams, what do you think?
defintely not my best, I hate teams...
on youtube search: Fantastic Classic Brawl, my name is untap.
or you took his 1337ness.
Hey I did some matches against some guys that only do teams, what do you think?
defintely not my best, I hate teams...
on youtube search: Fantastic Classic Brawl, my name is untap.
ShermantheTank
Smash Journeyman
Got any vids Esca? Not gonna lie I love watching you kick some tail.
321BOOM
Smash Journeyman
esca made the post reply 1,337.
Esca
Smash Champion
Unless someone on livestream recorded my matches vs PhantomX I have none.
I'll be sure to get plenty very soon though.
you and Inui did well in teams although u should have prolly taken hylian since u do so well against GnW lol
im pretty sure im goin to Hobo21 so ill be crashin wit u the night before so we can smash all night and i guess play brawl too ;p
im pretty sure im goin to Hobo21 so ill be crashin wit u the night before so we can smash all night and i guess play brawl too ;p
321BOOM
Smash Journeyman
Hey everyone,
Lately I've been playing Pit, having no luck, and barely making it far. So yesterday, for fun, I started playing Marth in friendlies, and I figured out I'm actually a LOT better with Marth than I am with Pit. So as of yesterday, I'm switching to Marth. He just seems the better choice. I apologize to everyone for not sticking around too long, but I hope I've been helpful in some sort of small way. Ah, this is more of a bye-before-I-met-you sort of thing, I feel bad for not staying around too long.. Again, sorry for that. I still love Pit though
Peace,
321BOOM
Lately I've been playing Pit, having no luck, and barely making it far. So yesterday, for fun, I started playing Marth in friendlies, and I figured out I'm actually a LOT better with Marth than I am with Pit. So as of yesterday, I'm switching to Marth. He just seems the better choice. I apologize to everyone for not sticking around too long, but I hope I've been helpful in some sort of small way. Ah, this is more of a bye-before-I-met-you sort of thing, I feel bad for not staying around too long.. Again, sorry for that. I still love Pit though
Peace,
321BOOM
Esca
Smash Champion
Stay Pit. Marth is much worse.
MysteriousSilver
Smash Ace
If you're going to play characters that make you win, just play MK. Seriously. >.>
Other than that, play chars you like. <3 Pit, both character and playstyle.
Other than that, play chars you like. <3 Pit, both character and playstyle.
321BOOM
Smash Journeyman
Sorry Esca, I'm pretty firm in my decision.
Pit is indeed an awesome character, I think Marth fits my playstyle more though.
It's not a matter of winning, It's just I feel more comfortable with Marth.
I'm not much of a campy/defensive player, I like the option of being aggressive~
Best of luck, though!
Pit is indeed an awesome character, I think Marth fits my playstyle more though.
It's not a matter of winning, It's just I feel more comfortable with Marth.
I'm not much of a campy/defensive player, I like the option of being aggressive~
Best of luck, though!
Phaigne
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, well I like the option of being able to **** things, does that mean I should play MK?Sorry Esca, I'm pretty firm in my decision.
Pit is indeed an awesome character, I think Marth fits my playstyle more though.
It's not a matter of winning, It's just I feel more comfortable with Marth.
I'm not much of a campy/defensive player, I like the option of being aggressive~
Best of luck, though!
Yes, yes it does, but the point is Pit is sexier.
aish
Smash Journeyman
I liek angel wings
Nikenick
Smash Journeyman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZUNTj65KKo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoYXHJY_bc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZpaj_sNb6k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-2QoPyprdA&feature=related
Just some random vids of me, late night friendlies are fun. I'm playing so bad but I uploaded them anyways XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXoYXHJY_bc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZpaj_sNb6k&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-2QoPyprdA&feature=related
Just some random vids of me, late night friendlies are fun. I'm playing so bad but I uploaded them anyways XD
ShermantheTank
Smash Journeyman
Lolololol switching from one eunuch to another.
Seriously though, play who you like playing and have fun with it. Who knows, one day you might find someone your Marth can't take, and suddenly your Pit will be an option again.
Seriously though, play who you like playing and have fun with it. Who knows, one day you might find someone your Marth can't take, and suddenly your Pit will be an option again.
Saki-
Reset Project
*coughDkcough*
<.< I have yet to feel ok using Marth against Dk
<.< I have yet to feel ok using Marth against Dk
Esca
Smash Champion
dont use marth against dk ever.
pit vs dk is pits favor heavy.
pit vs dk is pits favor heavy.
Phaigne
Smash Journeyman
Has anyone else noticed that an Aerial Angel Ring is really effective against MK's Tornado?
Nikenick
Smash Journeyman
MysteriousSilver
Smash Ace
I've found that it just gets eaten. Am I missing something?
ShermantheTank
Smash Journeyman
That might actually work if that stage wasn't banned
Phaigne
Smash Journeyman
I only tested it for about 5 minutes, but no, I never got it eaten. It seems like at worse they cancel each other out and at best you put some damage on MK. I could be wrong here, but it seems like a very effective move vs. Tornado.