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Kowns Thread.
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Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
Hey guys, I'm BPC, head of the Brawl- dev team. Basically, we're trying again to put everyone on the same level, just this time we aren't setting everyone on the level of Diddy, we're setting them on the level of SF2T Akuma.
Me and the rest of the guys are stumped on pit (I've rarely used Pit, and apparently nobody can figure out how to break him other than just generic power boosts all over the place which is boring as ****). We don't know what to do to make him broken in a fun and interesting way (in fact, we have no ideas as far as pit goes). >.> Can any of you give us some ideas?
Me and the rest of the guys are stumped on pit (I've rarely used Pit, and apparently nobody can figure out how to break him other than just generic power boosts all over the place which is boring as ****). We don't know what to do to make him broken in a fun and interesting way (in fact, we have no ideas as far as pit goes). >.> Can any of you give us some ideas?
MysteriousSilver
Smash Ace
...Really, general stat boosting is all he needs to be a contender.
I dunno, make wingdash useful? It'd add something unique to his game.
I dunno, make wingdash useful? It'd add something unique to his game.
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
He doesn't need to be a contender, he needs to be the kind of char that would have 70-30s across the entire board in normal brawl. That's the idea here-so broken that it works. And just general stat-raising is kinda... I dunno, dull. Like, we are having marth's range doubled. We're raising MK's air speed by a lot. We have half of ganon's moves grounding/tripping and the other half way faster. Bowser has HA on everything he does. Everyone is getting general stat buffs. There's gotta be something for pit...
EDIT: I also have no clue what wingdashing is or how it works. I don't play pit, remember? :V
EDIT: I also have no clue what wingdashing is or how it works. I don't play pit, remember? :V
Admiral Pit
Smash Hero
Well, I'm at the peak of being busy out there, so I rarely can help the angels out here, but I will hope to make time around here.
For BPC, well, I can probably help out with Pit upon request, when I have time of course. Idk how much I can be of help since idiots just consider me to be a "Wifi" Pit, and u know how some ppl think, stereotyping because of that, and thinking they are better because all they care about is offline this offline that. You can contact me on AIM, and I can get to you as soon as I got the time. If not, then we have the classing PMing, which really may take longer for me to notice.
For BPC, well, I can probably help out with Pit upon request, when I have time of course. Idk how much I can be of help since idiots just consider me to be a "Wifi" Pit, and u know how some ppl think, stereotyping because of that, and thinking they are better because all they care about is offline this offline that. You can contact me on AIM, and I can get to you as soon as I got the time. If not, then we have the classing PMing, which really may take longer for me to notice.
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
Infinite jumps is something we decided against from the start-stalls.
I'd be really glad to have help with pit. We have nothing yet. >.>
MysteriousSilver
Smash Ace
Multiple glides, gets WoI back when he gets hit, better control over arrows? Arrows give a huge push back when shielded? Raise ARs priority/range/speed, make mirror shield reflect physical attacks the whole time it's out, give WoI's windpush absurd priority, make dair a spike, make dtilt spike hitbox larger...
Just some ideas off the top of my head.
Edit: Give AR a huge windbox that sucks people in from like, a stage sized area
Just some ideas off the top of my head.
Edit: Give AR a huge windbox that sucks people in from like, a stage sized area
Admiral Pit
Smash Hero
Here are my ideals:
-Some way of improving Pit's edge game, or at least get others to utilize it more.
-Probably find ways of getting Pit's poor melee range extended so that he doesn't have to be so close to many of his opponents, most noted, Wario, Marth, MK (of course) and Olimar, who are 4 of Pit's bad matchups.
Most of Pit's bad matchups occurring are because Pit's range is limited, especially if he can't camp his opponents with arrows.
-Any way to get Pit's speed to be faster a bit, or some lag-cancelling stuff,
-Any particular move follow-up moves
Example: "F-throw > Stutterstep Fsmash" on most chars for a quick 29%-30% damage when your opponent is at 0%.
We need more of such stuff besides that and Pit's F-throw CG that only works on like 8 characters. DK, Bowser, Link, Snake, Falcon Ganon, Wolf, maybe Fox. Sadly, Snake is the only one of those that seem to put Pit at a slight disadvantage, ratio-wise.
-A way to improve Pit's recovering, though I think he can't go no further than he already can.
Overall, any way to improve Pit's melee-based range, edgegame, speed of attacks, or a discovery of a legit or actually effective follow-up string of attacks can work. idk how far Pit can go since we found much of his stuff.
Note: I gots my Pit and Pika stickers in the mail today Aishi! They're cute! <3
-Some way of improving Pit's edge game, or at least get others to utilize it more.
-Probably find ways of getting Pit's poor melee range extended so that he doesn't have to be so close to many of his opponents, most noted, Wario, Marth, MK (of course) and Olimar, who are 4 of Pit's bad matchups.
Most of Pit's bad matchups occurring are because Pit's range is limited, especially if he can't camp his opponents with arrows.
-Any way to get Pit's speed to be faster a bit, or some lag-cancelling stuff,
-Any particular move follow-up moves
Example: "F-throw > Stutterstep Fsmash" on most chars for a quick 29%-30% damage when your opponent is at 0%.
We need more of such stuff besides that and Pit's F-throw CG that only works on like 8 characters. DK, Bowser, Link, Snake, Falcon Ganon, Wolf, maybe Fox. Sadly, Snake is the only one of those that seem to put Pit at a slight disadvantage, ratio-wise.
-A way to improve Pit's recovering, though I think he can't go no further than he already can.
Overall, any way to improve Pit's melee-based range, edgegame, speed of attacks, or a discovery of a legit or actually effective follow-up string of attacks can work. idk how far Pit can go since we found much of his stuff.
Note: I gots my Pit and Pika stickers in the mail today Aishi! They're cute! <3
MysteriousSilver
Smash Ace
Oh, better idea.
If Pit's arrow hits a shield, it has the same effect as shield breaker.
Pit is auto beast now.
If Pit's arrow hits a shield, it has the same effect as shield breaker.
Pit is auto beast now.
Katana_koden
Smash Ace
pit shoot 2 arrows instead of 1.
infinite up b and can up b again after hit.
pits taunt " you're not ready yet" spawns arrows above opponent starting off screen then straight down.
Dair spikes...!!!!!!
infinite up b and can up b again after hit.
pits taunt " you're not ready yet" spawns arrows above opponent starting off screen then straight down.
Dair spikes...!!!!!!
Dark_Kuro
Smash Rookie
Guys, I found a good way for Pit to defeat Marth!
http://teh-silver-wolfeh.deviantart.com/art/MP-Crotch-Shot-144350108
*shot* XD
http://teh-silver-wolfeh.deviantart.com/art/MP-Crotch-Shot-144350108
*shot* XD
321BOOM
Smash Journeyman
^^This proves Marth is a man. xP
droughboi
Smash Journeyman
Sup guys, I havent been here in a while. Me and my friends just hosted a Tourney at a lock-in at this school. About 25+ people. not that many, single elimination due to time issues.. I went pit for just about the whole tourney except for two matches that I played with pika in. I came out on top. The competition wasnt that harsh some people were good others werent, but my wii's broken and I havent played in months so im all happy lol.. Ill throw up some replays if anyone wants to see =P
aish
Smash Journeyman
Haha school tourney, reminds me of some of my classmates was asking me if I knew how to 'land on the wall' and i asked what was that and another guy says 'don't tell her how to do it!' and the other guy responds saying 'I won't but it looks like -so and so-'. And then I broke their bubble when I replied with 'you mean teching?' xD nobody playss in my collegee D8
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
Good stuff guys. I'll take that into consideration.
...Yeah right
Phaigne
Smash Journeyman
BOOM, what are you doing here? Go back to the Marth boards. You left us.
Edit:
You know guys, I think I might have found a neat new tick for Pit. I don't know if it is expansive enough to be an AT, but it looks promising. Still need to test it a little.
Edit:
You know guys, I think I might have found a neat new tick for Pit. I don't know if it is expansive enough to be an AT, but it looks promising. Still need to test it a little.
droughboi
Smash Journeyman
Lol. yea alot of people just plained sucked, I mean... I could beat them while watching people play DDR or Rockband behind me, but they still knew their stuff about the game. then there were some people who were actually pretty good, but spammed stuff or just didnt know what to do, and then there were some people who actually played brawl for real. It was fun none the less.
Saki-
Reset Project
So far I've only found one other Brawl player at my school that actually takes the game seriously, but he still has a long way to go. :l I wish I could find more haha.
aish
Smash Journeyman
I was just given the longest lecture eeeever about my playing 8D helpful but soo much thinking to accomplish it ;-;
pitskeyblade
Smash Lord
Which character do you think is the worst match-up for Pit? I endure **** on a stick from Meta Knights, but it may be different depending on the person.
Phaigne
Smash Journeyman
In my opinion, Olimar is the only terrible one, but I do think it changes based on the person.
Admiral Pit
Smash Hero
Has to be G&W or MK..., well Marth and Olimar could be close, yet they are not it.
MysteriousSilver
Smash Ace
I'm going to say Olimar, maybe Geedubbs.
So I found an AT in the original Kid Icarus.
You can cancel the lag from your attack by crouching. If you spam down and the attack button, you fire a beam of arrowy death.
So I found an AT in the original Kid Icarus.
You can cancel the lag from your attack by crouching. If you spam down and the attack button, you fire a beam of arrowy death.
Esca
Smash Champion
Metaknight is Pit's worst matchup.
Followed by G&W, Olimar, and Peach.
Marth is nowhere NEAR bad for Pit.
Followed by G&W, Olimar, and Peach.
Marth is nowhere NEAR bad for Pit.
Oh c'mon GW is easy >_>. It's been like 10 years and people still complain about this matchup? ugh..... MK is the hardest then probably Olimar. Peach is in Pits favor imo. Marth is even. Also Mk isn't rly that hard. Most MKs play the matchup horribly anyway. Just don't go offstage in the matchup and Pit is fine....geez.
Esca
Smash Champion
R@vyn, that's why we're saying top level of play. Gotta remember this.
If you're referring to my comment about MK, then I still stand by what I say. Pit does fine on stage vs MK. Its just he ***** Pit offstage. It's still obviously his worst matchup but overall its nothing worse than 60:40 I would say.
Esca
Smash Champion
I agree with that Ravyn.
Phaigne
Smash Journeyman
aish
Smash Journeyman
Just make sure olimar doens't kill you on the boat first 8D
Admiral Pit
Smash Hero
Happy thanksgiving to all! :3
And hai Aishi!
And hai Aishi!
Afropony
Smash Lord
We don't have thanksgiving in Australia.. at least I don't think we do.
Katana_koden
Smash Ace
Are there even turkeys in Australia?
Esca
Smash Champion
Against Olimar, ALWAYS pick Frigate. Force him on the right side, or go Japes and throw him in the water.