Majority
Smash Journeyman
Yea, I've read most of it. I guess there aren't really ATs to practice like in Melee, huh? I'll do what you suggested.
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KGD - The Kewkky Thread! - Kirby's Wasteland: Dead Social
- Thread starter Labernash
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Nah, not for Kirby. Most of what I would consider his "advanced techniques" aren't really ATs at all, and more just like small quirks you gotta remember mid-match... Like being able to 2nd jump out of a bthrow before the animation ends, getting guaranteed footstools out of inhales and offstage dairs, combos and pseudo-combos-that-almost-always-work... Just basic stuff that makes a difference in a match, things that no one except people who've studied Kirby should know at first glance.
Woo, gotta love being a scrub that doesn't realize he needs a secondary yet.
Though I guess I have some characters I'm not too bad with.
Though I guess I have some characters I'm not too bad with.
Sky Pirate
The best defense is a lot of frigging healing
That's true, sirrrrrr.
Wow Joey, why the hostility? I'm probably one of the nicest "Kramer"-type characters you'll get here. :3
I know, I know... But at least Olimar's not as common, same with IC's, so we can get away with not needing a secondary most of the time.
That's true, but not as amazing as Kirby or Kewkky. Man that kewkky is the best, please take all my money and look in my general direction AHMAHGADHESQUOTINGME@:OSQWSN
Sky Pirate
The best defense is a lot of frigging healing
I'm too thrifty (cheap) to just throw money at you without shopping around for a cheaper Kewkky, sirrrrrrrrrr. XP
Olimars actually do randomly show up in large numbers at tournaments.
Olimars actually do randomly show up in large numbers at tournaments.
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
Kirby does need a secondary, obviously scrubs don't realize this is 2011.
Shaun- I <3 ya, and I guess you're fine to come around these parts;
@Majority- I'd suggest going to BF and getting the general physics of the character down; similar to what Kewkky said. Once you feel you have the physics down, practice speeding up your Kirby by becoming familiar with the platforms + hupcanceling + platform drops + tilts. It's a good area to work in.
Tl;dr- It ain't the past kids, be real about this ish, Kirby ain't making it top-level w/o a secondary.
Shaun- I <3 ya, and I guess you're fine to come around these parts;
Stay away from that Kewkky guy, he's really shady. He's your friend one second and the next he's sleeping with your brother while you're at work
@Majority- I'd suggest going to BF and getting the general physics of the character down; similar to what Kewkky said. Once you feel you have the physics down, practice speeding up your Kirby by becoming familiar with the platforms + hupcanceling + platform drops + tilts. It's a good area to work in.
Tl;dr- It ain't the past kids, be real about this ish, Kirby ain't making it top-level w/o a secondary.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
Oh hi, Chudat.
Even Chudat man, even Chudat.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
Since when has he used a secondary? I've seen him use IC's once or twice, but I thought that was only for IC dittos.
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
LAWL, I like how ZWarm didn't bother searching for threads of ChuDat being amazing this year. GOOD ****. WAAAAY TO SEARCH. Love that name drop. You're lyk the smartest smart smarty pants person aren't you? CHUDATAZZZ IS DA BESS OMFG1!!!1111one!!! CUZ HE LYK NVER NEEDS A SECOndARY TO PLACE FIRST.
He might not have the secondary, but he's suffering for it now that it's 2011 and people are beating him out of that first place spot in his region AND I'll put money he wouldn't place money nationally because of his lack of a secondary.
He's great, he's an awesome Kirby, don't get me wrong. Juss sayin'.
He might not have the secondary, but he's suffering for it now that it's 2011 and people are beating him out of that first place spot in his region AND I'll put money he wouldn't place money nationally because of his lack of a secondary.
He's great, he's an awesome Kirby, don't get me wrong. Juss sayin'.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
LOL LEIK OmG I ToTALlY TyEP LEIK THIS. He's still placing top 2-3 in his region going all Kirby. And sorry I don't namesearch the guy to keep up to date on a character I don't play's results. I just know he has done very well in the past going all Kirby.
And yeah bro, I'm totally the smartiest smarty pants in the world. You jealous?
And yeah bro, I'm totally the smartiest smarty pants in the world. You jealous?
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
Trolling aside, he's used Marth a fair number of times in the past too.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
You got me. You know your own character better than I do. Congrats.
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
Was that what this was about? ****, why'd you bother posting a counterpoint without some kind of backing behind it? That was just being a big ol' duck in a small *** pond.
Trolling aside, the 'o hai chudat' post was a bit annoying because of how carelessly people throw his name around. He's brilliant but his character, this boards character, my favorite character, is getting more and more limited as the metagame evolves and people need to realize this. It's like being low or bottom of mid tier (in our case all the way at the top of mid tier), you need a secondary sometimes. ICs, Snake, Olimar, MK are a handful of MUs that are easier with a secondary (not saying they're impossible for Kirby but obviously a 2ndary gives you a large chance of success). Wario, D3, Marth, Falco are all MUs that Kirby handles but a secondary could handle better; it's preference based. Rob, TL, ZSS, and projectile users that space well can also be a problem where a secondary would be more useful. And at top level the trend shows Kirby cannot compete on even footing alone.
Trolling aside, the 'o hai chudat' post was a bit annoying because of how carelessly people throw his name around. He's brilliant but his character, this boards character, my favorite character, is getting more and more limited as the metagame evolves and people need to realize this. It's like being low or bottom of mid tier (in our case all the way at the top of mid tier), you need a secondary sometimes. ICs, Snake, Olimar, MK are a handful of MUs that are easier with a secondary (not saying they're impossible for Kirby but obviously a 2ndary gives you a large chance of success). Wario, D3, Marth, Falco are all MUs that Kirby handles but a secondary could handle better; it's preference based. Rob, TL, ZSS, and projectile users that space well can also be a problem where a secondary would be more useful. And at top level the trend shows Kirby cannot compete on even footing alone.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
I could easily try to argue with you about it, but I don't care enough. It would just end up being you throwing out stupid insults along with your somewhat of an argument, me countering your points, then that over and over again until it gets to the point of flaming, where neither of us win the argument anyway, like usual.
I don't just throw Chu's name out whenever I can, but he's the best solo Kirby main. I could also say Triple R and Kappy both do well in their respective regions going all Kirby as well, but that's not a "top level of play" by your standards, I'm sure.
I don't just throw Chu's name out whenever I can, but he's the best solo Kirby main. I could also say Triple R and Kappy both do well in their respective regions going all Kirby as well, but that's not a "top level of play" by your standards, I'm sure.
A1lion835
Smash Champion
A bit late for that precaution, I'm afraid.
I think most current opinions are that Chu and YbM are about even in terms of Kirbiness.Zwarm said:
In support of JoWii, I don't think I've seen more than 1 person in the top 20 at any national tourney in recent memory who went Kirby as their main. There might've been some instances with Chu and someone else who seconded him, but that's it.
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
Zwarm feels as though we'd go back and forth both bring up valid points, countering each others arguments AND THEN it'd degenerate. Classic~. We COULD have done that if the first thing you said had an substance to it but no, we never got into the back and forth valid points part. <----blantant insult/flame/troll if that's what you call disagreement.
Thanks A1 for having actually looked at results~.
Also, I'm one of the biggest vouchers that RRR is the best Kirby in the MW:W and 2nd in the MW. He's a great Kirby main but doesn't have a secondary. YbM who is the 1st best Kirby in the MW has a ZSS secondary.
Chudat is the best solo Kirby who's results have been lackluster to his previous results. YbM is around tied for best Kirby and he has a secondary. He place like 13th or the next lower placing at his last tournament, a regional might I add that had M2k, Aly, @mosk, etc.) and then forfeited to go to the club, but his results are just steady, and you could even say getting better. This isn't an argument for who's the better kirby, I'm juss sayin' YbM has a secondary.
Thanks A1 for having actually looked at results~.
Also, I'm one of the biggest vouchers that RRR is the best Kirby in the MW:W and 2nd in the MW. He's a great Kirby main but doesn't have a secondary. YbM who is the 1st best Kirby in the MW has a ZSS secondary.
Chudat is the best solo Kirby who's results have been lackluster to his previous results. YbM is around tied for best Kirby and he has a secondary. He place like 13th or the next lower placing at his last tournament, a regional might I add that had M2k, Aly, @mosk, etc.) and then forfeited to go to the club, but his results are just steady, and you could even say getting better. This isn't an argument for who's the better kirby, I'm juss sayin' YbM has a secondary.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
I'm saying it would have happened had I cared enough to bring up valid points in the first place, which you said, but I really don't feel like arguing with you about it. And that wasn't blatant flaming.
Is blatant flaming, just sayin. And I agree with you that Triple R is the best in MW:W, and second best in the MW, but imo, Kappy is third behind YbM and Triple R in the MW, and he solo mains Kirby.
I also think Triple R has some very attractive tourney results. I can't say if he's one of the best because I don't know who he plays against, but his results definitely say maaany good things about him.
I consider myself a good Kirby main, but I'm still not at my peak. I know I can get better, and I will get better too. I know a couple of Kirby mainers think like me (except A1, all he's got is rock buddiesOH SNAP), but I think I'm the only guy who thinks Chu's play style is kinda, uhh... Sloppy. He can do better and he can get better, he's definitely being held back by his personal problems (which I know whoever read the Chu Chronicles and his 'Quitting thread' almost a year ago knows what I'm talking about). I can't say much about YbM since I haven't heard anything from him recently except that he forfeited a tourney to go to a club, and same goes for Kappy.
Anyway, a real best Kirby main would have to be measured with how many games they've won as Kirby, against who, AND his tourney placings. It used to be Chu, but now I have no idea who it is.
And as a PS, try not to flame or troll too much (if at all). I'm very lenient with the rules so you guys can get away with a nice number of things here, but breaking rules purposefully to cause problems is still not something I can turn a blind eye to. :/
I consider myself a good Kirby main, but I'm still not at my peak. I know I can get better, and I will get better too. I know a couple of Kirby mainers think like me (except A1, all he's got is rock buddies
Anyway, a real best Kirby main would have to be measured with how many games they've won as Kirby, against who, AND his tourney placings. It used to be Chu, but now I have no idea who it is.
And as a PS, try not to flame or troll too much (if at all). I'm very lenient with the rules so you guys can get away with a nice number of things here, but breaking rules purposefully to cause problems is still not something I can turn a blind eye to. :/
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
Had to bbq the one-liner. Necessary flaming was necessary.
As per the 3rd best Kirby, from what I here there's only 2 Kirbies that are placing in the money at state and regional levels. Beyond that is up in the air as to who is the 3rd best. Entitled opinion nevertheless.
As per the 3rd best Kirby, from what I here there's only 2 Kirbies that are placing in the money at state and regional levels. Beyond that is up in the air as to who is the 3rd best. Entitled opinion nevertheless.
And out of nowhere, Kewkky downloaded some Touhou Project games!
I am in love with shoot-em-ups/bullet hell games, and I found out they have some badass tracks in the game while looking around for music for my recently hacked Wii. Downside is I don't have a joystick to play this game with, but it's made to be used with a keyboard so I'll see how it goes. I hope this thing is amazing.
I am in love with shoot-em-ups/bullet hell games, and I found out they have some badass tracks in the game while looking around for music for my recently hacked Wii. Downside is I don't have a joystick to play this game with, but it's made to be used with a keyboard so I'll see how it goes. I hope this thing is amazing.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
I strongly agree with this.
G&W too if I remember correctly. I could be wrong though.
Oh, and just for good measure, **** olimar. Just sayin'.
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
**** Olimar, juss sayin' 2.
Tiersie
Smash Ace
y.b.m placed 9th at that tourney actually, forfeited in winners aswell. Could´ve easily gotten top 8 or top 6 even, I´d say he´s the best what with MDVA people saying chu quit again.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
He placed 2nd on sat as well, although that was a local, losing only to a fellow God Kai who he plays against fairly often.
jiovanni007
Smash Ace
I'm the 3rd best Kirby in case y'all didn't know. Don't worry your savior is back to bolster the Kirby boards since Chudat and Ybm don't come around.
Guys I got this. I'm going to learn how to play Kirby and I'm going to win Cataclysm 5.
No big deal.
No big deal.
jiovanni007
Smash Ace
I'm winning WHOBO, straight Kirby.
A1lion835
Smash Champion
Hey, I have steak sauce too.
I would say Chu's Kirby is sloppy. He's got great general skill for smash and good reading ability, but his (lack of) knowledge about Kirby is very debilitating.Kewkky said:
Everyone knows I'm the best Kirby, anyway. I'm probably the best smasher overall within 20 miles of my house, and we can generalize that to the whole country.
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
@the hype boards- Yo, le's squash this beef, we vegans here.
Btw, I'm not the best Kirby, but I'll MM any of you (w/ the exception of if YbM or RRR) come in here @ Kirb dittos and win.
/beef
Btw, Jiovanni can't win WHOBO going straight Kirby because I'ma take first w/ Fox
Btw, I'm not the best Kirby, but I'll MM any of you (w/ the exception of if YbM or RRR) come in here @ Kirb dittos and win.
/beef
Btw, Jiovanni can't win WHOBO going straight Kirby because I'ma take first w/ Fox
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
The Kirby boards are a lot more dead recently,...since we have the Kirby skype.
Btw, me and Jiovanni are teaming @ WHOBO; hype.
Btw, me and Jiovanni are teaming @ WHOBO; hype.
tekkie
Smash Master
hey is nair useful for anything specific?
Sage JoWii
Smash Champion
Sure.
NAir's Kirby's spotdodge punisher; or punishing a ledge get-up.
NAir's Kirby's spotdodge punisher; or punishing a ledge get-up.
A1lion835
Smash Champion
Extremely important announcement:
I have procrastinated doing my hw for the past 6 hours straight, and for my entire week-long break before that. I have school today, and I'm not planning on getting any sleep.
Procrastination is bad. FML.
just thought you should know
I have procrastinated doing my hw for the past 6 hours straight, and for my entire week-long break before that. I have school today, and I'm not planning on getting any sleep.
Procrastination is bad. FML.
just thought you should know
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
We're vegans?! Do we have psychic powers?@the hype boards- Yo, le's squash this beef, we vegans here.
Btw, I'm not the best Kirby, but I'll MM any of you (w/ the exception of if YbM or RRR) come in here @ Kirb dittos and win.
/beef
Btw, Jiovanni can't win WHOBO going straight Kirby because I'ma take first w/ Fox
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYwdFDQfOx8
Heh, you haven't and probably won't ever beat me in a Kirby ditto, not because you can't but because I don't think we shall ever have one. I'd rather lose a MM with secondaries than win it in the ditto. Yeah, I hate that ditto THAT much. IDK how you guys do it; Kirby dittos are, like 80% of the other dittos in this game, so boring that I just don't even want to play the game anymore when they come up.
Zwarm
Smash Hero
Kirby dittos are fun, I beat Kappy in them.
Like all dittos though, they don't show that much skill, because I don't even play Kirby. XD
Sometimes.