K. Rool's Kremling Kutthroats: PM BKupa666 for an Invite to the New K. Rool Thread

[Banjodorf]

Honestly, I'm perfectly fine with him being a boss if he doesn't end up playable. Even an AT, even though that doesn't seem nearly as likely.

If he's a boss, he probably has all of his classic mechanics, and people can know him for that, instead of going"hurr durr who? he didn't get in the releVan."

PC is obviously preferred, but honestly, if he's a boss, I still feel like it's a victory, which is exactly the opposite of what it was for Ridley. In fact, we're pretty much done with people's bull**** either way now.

 

[Xzsmmc]

Honestly, I'm perfectly fine with him being a boss if he doesn't end up playable. Even an AT, even though that doesn't seem nearly as likely.

If he's a boss, he probably has all of his classic mechanics, and people can know him for that, instead of going"hurr durr who? he didn't get in the releVan."

PC is obviously preferred, but honestly, if he's a boss, I still feel like it's a victory, which is exactly the opposite of what it was for Ridley. In fact, we're pretty much done with people's bull**** either way now.

I agree to an extent. While him being playable is obviously what I (and everyone else here) want most, him being a boss or Assist Trophy would be extremely disappointing, but not soul-crushing. Plus, it could potentially mean we'd see more of him in future DKC games/Mario spinoffs. Smash Bros. has that kind of power.

 

[Banjodorf]

All that said of course, there's no point in resigning his position, when quite honestly his chances have never looked better. I'm really excited to see what's going to happen!

 

[BKupa666]

I would prefer the cake crumb of him being a boss to him not appearing at all...we'd still get a new model and he'd be right up on the shortlist for the next game, like Little Mac. Really, though, it'd still be infuriating for Sakurai to bring the Kremlings back, only to not put their leader in the role the fans have clamored for him to have. What's more, I'm not sure if him being a Smash boss would be enough for Retro to have to put him in their next DKC, whereas playable K. Rool would absolutely have that effect.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

I would prefer the cake crumb of him being a boss to him not appearing at all...we'd still get a new model and he'd be right up on the shortlist for the next game, like Little Mac. Really, though, it'd still be infuriating for Sakurai to bring the Kremlings back, only to not put their leader in the role the fans have clamored for him to have. What's more, I'm not sure if him being a Smash boss would be enough for Retro to have to put him in their next DKC, whereas playable K. Rool would absolutely have that effect.

Yeah I agree. One of my best buds is actually pumped for K.Rool. I'll tell you, that he and I will likely be disappointed if he doesn't end up playable.

However, at the same time, I could totally see him becoming one of the best Boss characters. I just don't see him being a "big" character to the point that he would make sense to have at such a large size like the others though. Hence why I think he's in good shape.

 

[Xzsmmc]

On a slightly different subject, we've known about the game almost a year. We've seen numerous items, stages, Assist trophies, and other tidbits of information. Yet we still have not seen a single Donkey Kong stage, item, or Assist Trophy. Does anyone else find this rather suspicious? It almost feels like Sakurai is trying to hide something. Which is odd, since he didn't hide Ashley or Samurai Goroh, who represent franchises with no veterans shown yet.

 

[Banjodorf]

Eh, I'm sure we'll see something soon enough.

There's plenty of potential ATs in DK lore. (Y'know honestly, K. Rool would probably be one of the worst choices for an AT, just because they're single-function cameos.) Considering the number of other Kongs there are, Kremling bosses, Tiki bosses/enemies etc, it seems like picking a DK AT would be pretty tough, and I really doubt it's K. Rool.

Then again, we didn't even get a DK AT in Brawl. What was up with that!?

 

[MasterWarlord]

It's not particularly necessary and probably won't happen, but I hope we get more than the usual Kritters which snuck their way into even some Mario sports titles. If we actually see a specific Kremlings (Outside of Klap Traps on recycled stages) like Krusha, Krook, Koin, etc. . .We could really be getting somewhere. A Klaptrap, Krusha, or Klump seems most likely if we got another actual enemy. Klobber would also be a welcome addition as an added random factor to the barrel item. Perhaps, with it being shown that the containers are themed along with the stages again, Klobber could specifically have a chance to pop out of barrels on DK stages.

If we get any character exclusive to Rare's continuity as an assist trophy, K. Rool becomes more likely. Any Kong even makes him more likely, especially one that hasn't come back (Swanky Kong?), though I hope Cranky makes it as an assist at least instead of his boring cameo. Regardless, I'll happily take a Tropical Freeze assist trophy even if it technically hurts K. Rool slightly. I think the one Tropical Freeze AT that might help him is if we say Lord Frederick. Of course Fred's no real threat of being playable, but it just would show what kind of level he's at while K. Rool's better material.

And yeah, it was annoying how snubbed DK got in Brawl. No assist trophies or enemies, horrible stage from the lackluster Jungle Beat, and other representation being token references to arcade DK which is quite honestly more of its own series IMO than Yoshi is.

 

[Deleted member]

I especially remember not liking the Stickerbrush Symphony remix in Brawl. It's pales so badly in comparison to the original if you ask me.

 

[Welshy91]

I especially remember not liking the Stickerbrush Symphony remix in Brawl. It's pales so badly in comparison to the original if you ask me.

Where have you been this entire time?

 

[BowserK.Rool]

Sakurai said that the kritters(as well as every other nintendo game enemy) though would be in the adventure mode on the 3-DS only. Not saying this hurts K. Rool's chances of getting in ssb4 but do you think they'll at least play as a stage hazard on one of the dk stages for the wii u version?

 

[SomewhatMystia]

They might be enemies if we get a DK stage in Smash U's (presumably existing) adventure mode.

Or just random dudes who pop up when you throw boxes, kind of like Goombas did in... Melee? I think.

 

[BowserK.Rool]

I think they'd be great to show up on a gangplank galleon stage and try to mess up the competitors by setting traps or sending klaptraps at them.

 

[Deleted member]

Where have you been this entire time?

It's a long story. Self-evaluation about life has been a big part of it for one.

 

[Welshy91]

It's a long story. Self-evaluation about life has been a big part of it for one.

All that matters is that you're here now.

 

[MasterWarlord]

Sakurai said that the kritters(as well as every other nintendo game enemy) though would be in the adventure mode on the 3-DS only. Not saying this hurts K. Rool's chances of getting in ssb4 but do you think they'll at least play as a stage hazard on one of the dk stages for the wii u version?

They wouldn't make all those assets only to use them exclusively for the weaker version when it'd be so easy to import them into Wii U in some fashion. If anything, the fact they're only used in that way in the 3DS version makes me more confident we will see an additional unique use of the Kremlings in the Wii U version.

 

[Kamikazek]

I'm mixed with regard to what I want to happen to K. Rool if he's not playable. If he's a boss or AT, he gets a model that can then be used for Project M alongside Ridley. If he's not, then he's still an option for DLC, which still hasn't been ruled out yet.

He could be DLC either way. We don't know how they're doing DLC (if they do at all), heck I don't think they know how they would do DLC at this point. They could use it to finish characters that were planned but not finished because of deadlines like Mewtwo in Brawl(or just to squeeze in any cut characters from Brawl/Melee), but they could also use it to add as of yet unplanned characters, whether it be ones that had a strong backlash from not being playable, ones that they noticed the popularity of more after the roster was finalized, or just characters that the dev team didn't feel good about at the time of roster finalization but had inspiration about later on (Villager is a good example, Sakurai thought he shouldn't be playable a fighter then later changed his mind). I would not be surprised if we saw ATs get promoted to playable if we get DLC, maybe bosses too. Also, if K. Rool show up as a boss or AT it's quite possible he was originally on the list of intended playable characters but they switched him into an AT/boss when they were close to deadline and they realized there was no way they would get that far in the planned character list, expectantly if we don't see him until launch or near launch.

 

[Steelia]

Honestly, I'm perfectly fine with him being a boss if he doesn't end up playable. Even an AT, even though that doesn't seem nearly as likely.
If he's a boss, he probably has all of his classic mechanics, and people can know him for that, instead of going"hurr durr who? he didn't get in the releVan."
PC is obviously preferred, but honestly, if he's a boss, I still feel like it's a victory, which is exactly the opposite of what it was for Ridley. In fact, we're pretty much done with people's bull**** either way now.

Playable character or boss, at the very least it would put to rest the whole "hurr durr ownd by Rarez cant be used by Nintend0h" argument. There'd be absolutely no excuse not to include him in the next game(s), and would give us all the more reason to push for him even harder next Smash.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

K Rool has soared above Ridley in my wanted list after beating DKC II again. I honestly see him being revealed at E3, that would be hype, no?

 

[False Sense]

Eh, I'm sure we'll see something soon enough.

There's plenty of potential ATs in DK lore. (Y'know honestly, K. Rool would probably be one of the worst choices for an AT, just because they're single-function cameos.) Considering the number of other Kongs there are, Kremling bosses, Tiki bosses/enemies etc, it seems like picking a DK AT would be pretty tough, and I really doubt it's K. Rool.

Then again, we didn't even get a DK AT in Brawl. What was up with that!?

Not to bash on the character, but I've always thought Dixie Kong would make a nice Assist Trophy. If she's not playable, that would probably be a good role for her until Smash 5.

 

[Banjodorf]

If he somehow ends up not playable (I'm very strongly thinking he will be playable, but you never know. Everything's much more in his favor than for Brawl, since the Kremlings are on Sakurai's brain after all and he's the post popular newcomer in the world and all that.) then we definitely shouldn't count out DLC. We still don't know if they're doing it, or how it's going to work, but this is their chance for a gold mine. (Honestly I can't see them not doing it.)

Unless Smash 6 is an Ultimate edition... (Why can't I see Sakurai doing that? But if they did, I know who to include...)

 

[Diddy Kong]

Seriously, a DKC newcomer is a thing that really should happen now. I'd even be 100% content if it was Dixie at this point. All the more chances for K.Rool to get back next time I feel! It's also funny how the Kritters where not showed specifically as enemies, like some of the other enemies (Chandelure for example, but the Tikis also got attention). Maybe they will get more attention in a later Direct, or the E3 trailer?

Good chance that if Dixie and K.Rool are both in, Dixie will be shown first. So I'll be looking out for her. I am not gonna hold any hope for DLC possibilities, as I think that's leading up to dissapointment. Let's not be Ridley fans here.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

guys

if the leak is real, there's so far only 4 supporting characters, and one of them is technically a replacement. technically two if you want to get really technical about it

there can't be just four supporting characters. Well, okay, maybe there can, but I doubt that. things have never looked better for supporting characters.

 

[CroonerMike]

Not to bash on the Ridley fans, as I wanted him as well. But I have to say this thread acts much more mature in these situations than the Ridley thread. I do agree with some previous statements, I would rather see King K. Rool as a boss rather than nothing at all! As long as we get to see him incorporated in some way. I still am holding out for him being a character though.

 

[Banjodorf]

Like has been said before, the original leak never mentioned Rosalina, and this latest one didn't claim to have "all the remaining newcomers" either, just a new set.

Honestly if there's not two more newcomers (than the latest leak said) I'll be surprised. As long as PoR's "no k. rool" leak was also false, which I'm thinking it was, I think we might be able to start getting excited.

But then again, I'd be cautious, because look what happened to almost everyone BUT us (and Palutena, Shulk, Isaac, Black Shadow) on the 8th when they did.

At this point however, I'll be very surprised if:

A. There's not 3 DK newcomers
B. The third newcomer isn't K. Rool.

Because man is there a suspicious lack of DK content. Maybe that has something to do with it?

 

[Diddy Kong]

I don't believe leaks at all.

And we are also indeed long overdue for a DKC stage for Wii U. It's also kinda funny to see Jungle Japes back for the 3rd time.

 

[Welshy91]

Let's not be Ridley fans here.

Too bad most people here are.

 

[Banjodorf]

I don't believe leaks at all.

And we are also indeed long overdue for a DKC stage for Wii U. It's also kinda funny to see Jungle Japes back for the 3rd time.

Well, it's hard for me not to believe SalRomano's leaks at any rate. Not after last year.

Oh and this one, which leak or not is basically confirmed at this point.

Spoiler

As for all the rest of them...they all sort of died on Tuesday. (YOU DON'T JUST GET ONE DETAIL WRONG AND YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK IF YOU TRY TO BE SUPER SPECIFIC, PoR LEAK!)

I was so glad they brought back Jungle Japes! You have no idea!

1. It has Klaptraps and actual Rare DKC stuff.
2. It's not one of the godawful, and also Kremling/DKC-less stages from Brawl. Holy **** those were so awful.

 

[lilt]

Not to bash on the Ridley fans, as I wanted him as well. But I have to say this thread acts much more mature in these situations than the Ridley thread. I do agree with some previous statements, I would rather see King K. Rool as a boss rather than nothing at all! As long as we get to see him incorporated in some way. I still am holding out for him being a character though.

I do not think that it's the case that Ridley fans are especially childish. It's more about the criticism that the character get's from haters in combination with the big fanbase. If King K. Rool or any other character would be bashed that much, it would be the exact same thing with those fans in my opinion.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I was far more happy about Jungle Japes in Brawl because of those reasons. Sure, I like seeing it back but am worried that we might not get a DKC stage for 3DS. They have been extremely lazy for DKC stages since Melee. Melee even had the best stages I felt! Kongo Jungle was also a great stage, even with the rock camping... It also had N64's DKC stage.

It's also weird we have yet to see stages for StarFox and a lot of other prominent series. Am thinking we might also get recreated stages for those series. StarFox will probably get the Great Fox and Brawl's stage again. Am quite sure of that...

 

[Banjodorf]

I do not think that it's the case that Ridley fans are especially childish. It's more about the criticism that the character get's from haters in combination with the big fanbase. If King K. Rool or any other character would be bashed that much, it would be the exact same thing with those fans in my opinion.

Yeah...it's pretty demoralizing after spending literal years telling off Toobiggots, and finally being sure of your victory, only to have what happened on Tuesday happen. I can certainly understand their frustration and vitriol.

We on the other hand won our victory. Our thoughts about Sakurai not giving a **** about the Kremlings being "irrelevant, and therefore not using them" have paid off, and no matter what role K. Rool has, he'll have one, and it'll be all the sweeter. We won, Kutthroats, even in the unlikely chance the King isn't playable.

Now just imagine Kritters weren't in Smash run, and Sakurai had placed Snowmads in there along with the Tikis instead.

 

[Deleted member]

Not to bash on the Ridley fans, as I wanted him as well. But I have to say this thread acts much more mature in these situations than the Ridley thread. I do agree with some previous statements, I would rather see King K. Rool as a boss rather than nothing at all! As long as we get to see him incorporated in some way. I still am holding out for him being a character though.

To be fair, it likely has to do with how long Ridley has been popular. Ridley has been popular ever since the pre-Melee days whereas K. Rool has only be highly requested since during the pre-Brawl era. Plus Ridley supporters are some of the most dedicated supporters I have ever seen, and I though I was dedicated with Mega Man.

Also, the salo leak indicates that for K. Rool to get in, we're going to have to hope for at least fifteen newcomers. This is my primary concern with K. Rool's chances at the moment.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I don't believe leaks at all.

da nile isn't just a river in egypt

 

[fill]

K Rool has soared above Ridley in my wanted list after beating DKC II again. I honestly see him being revealed at E3, that would be hype, no?

yeah i'm currently replaying DK64

 

[Deleted member]

da nile isn't just a river in egypt

*post pi...*

Dang, I though this was a potential new trend happening.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

*post pi...*

Dang, I though this was a potential new trend happening.

#PrayForRichardParker

yeah i'm currently replaying DK64

it's not as bad as people say it is. Heck, it's one of the longest if not THE longest game on N64, only competing with Ogre Battle for that spot. Yeah, it's bloated, but come on.

 

[Banjodorf]

yeah i'm currently replaying DK64

Such an amazing game. K. Rool is flawless in it, and aside from the levels and music, he's definitely the most memorable thing in the game. Such a G.

E3 reveal! It could happen! I'm banking on them just showing us Pac-Mii and some veterans (Show me how you've changed Ganondorf, please...) A surprise reveal of K. Rool would be utterly amazing, however. It certainly would be hype as ****, and nothing's standing in his way now anyway.

 

[Deleted member]

yeah i'm currently replaying DK64

I miss that game so much. Used to play it on my N64 all the time when I had my old one (then again, I played it every chance I got).

I'll have to pick that one up again.

As for E3 reveal, could happen. I'm thinking we'll get three newcomers; two of them Pac-Man and Miis and another one who's really popular. This could very well be K. Rool's finest hour.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I bought it for 10 bucks at 2nd and charles

Such an amazing game. K. Rool is flawless in it, and aside from the levels and music, he's definitely the most memorable thing in the game. Such a G.

E3 reveal! It could happen! I'm banking on them just showing us Pac-Mii and some veterans (Show me how you've changed Ganondorf, please...) A surprise reveal of K. Rool would be utterly amazing, however. It certainly would be hype as ****, and nothing's standing in his way now anyway.

Honestly, there's not that many characters that could be revealed at E3 left. If the game especially comes out in say, july, we may be getting the full roster relatively fast.

 

[Deleted member]

I bought it for 10 bucks at 2nd and charles


Honestly, there's not that many characters that could be revealed at E3 left. If the game especially comes out in say, july, we may be getting the full roster relatively fast.

The nice thing about most N64 games is that they're relatively cheap to get; especially in comparison to games on other consoles. Even the most expensive games aren't Earthbound-level of expenses. If I were to start seriously collecting, this could be the only console that I could get all the games on. Of course games I want to play are first priority, though, like Rare games.