Canada [Jul 26, 2014] B.C. Brawl Monthlies - Back in business, now featuring Smash 64! (Burnaby, BC)

[Alacion]

I live in the opposite side of Greater Vancouver, in Port Coquitlam (where the old venue is).

 

[T-block]

oh i c. Mike Wong plays smash with BC not AB

AB is too strong

I live in the opposite side of Greater Vancouver, in Port Coquitlam (where the old venue is).

oh i didn't know you were so far east lol

brian is on or by commercial iirc?

 

[bundtcake]

by 1st and renfrew, east van :D

 

[T-block]

oh right. i remember the name of your street now

not too far from me at allll (i'm right next to burnaby mountain)

 

[Captain L]

I'm down for Asian food~ Just not anytime in the next 2 and a half weeks cause I gotta do a fair amount of stuff for school

More importantly I want to know how many people who are actually coming to our tournaments would not come if mk was legal. Cause I know for sure that legalizing the bat means breez and his friends will make it to most of our monthlies.

 

[Alacion]

We are/were switching back and forth from Unity MK-banned and Unity MK-legal. Let's just stick to what we are used to... since MK was never officially banned in BC, why not just go back to what we used and have become accustomed to?

Also it saves us a lot of drama.

 

[| Big D |]

It doesn't save drama at all...

Unity + MK legal is dumb because of RC/Brinstar.

The CP system is broken by MK so either have a MK legal + a CP system that doesn't get broken by MK (Apex/Japan) or keep the CP system and get rid of MK.

 

[T-block]

MK has losing matchups on mario circuit

 

[Captain L]

ICs are already gonna dominate BC anyways let's just go with japan

 

[SKidd]

I'm down no matter what, but Japan rules sounds pretty cool.

 

[Captain L]

Skidd can I drive you to the next tourney?!?

 

[The Iron Wolf]

I've had a change of heart.



MK legal + Apex ruleset.

 

[SKidd]

sure thing bro

 

[StarWaffle]

I'll probably have to decide last minute if I wanna go to an mk legal tourney based on my mood that day D= 50/50 chance I'll go =D

ummm Also If you guys wanna smash on sunday, we can do it at my house. There was a korean BBQ just down the street but I think it changed into pho like a month ago .-.

 

[~Firefly~]

I've had a change of heart.



MK legal + Apex ruleset.

da bess

I've been here for a day, and I already feel like I'm missing out.

 

[SinisterB]

obligatory 666th page post

not sure where i sit on the whole ruleset issue right now, but i'll probably be back for monthlies sooner than i thought


also food is awesome, i might be down sometime

 

[StarWaffle]

We should go to Meat & Bread. I saw it on T.V last night and it looked yummy. Its somewhere in Vancouver.

Yes I watch the cooking channel.

 

[Alacion]

The Food Network is divine.

 

[Arcansi]

MK being legal brings nothing into our game in light of what it takse out.

So why should he be legal?

Obligatory never got responded too.

(Assume the people that would come//leave are neutral. (So if 5 extra would come, 5 would also leave)

It sounds like you're going full brony.

Never go full brony.

Lol

:fluttershy:

 

[Captain L]

mk adds a very complex matchup to learn, and as far as our community goes he doesn't take anything away. Think about it, if ben can't use mk he'll use diddy, and it's not like we're missing out on those.

Arcansi, as much as it would be ideal to look at mk as a global issue, we're only talking about BC so generalized arguments don't work. Character diversity is an okay argument on a global scale, but within BC itself the argument doesn't hold at all.

 

[| Big D |]

Really it's MK and the CP system that bugs me.

Mk on neutrals is doable. But having to deal with him on CPs is anther story.

You could always do the EU and just make him banned on all CPs but that's kinda silly.

And just go through the Brawl bushido impact tourney thread to see how they feel about me.

 

[SinisterB]

Really it's MK and the CP system that bugs me.

Mk on neutrals is doable. But having to deal with him on CPs is anther story.

You could always do the EU and just make him banned on all CPs but that's kinda silly.

And just go through the Brawl bushido impact tourney thread to see how they feel about me.

 

[Arcansi]

mk adds a very complex matchup to learn, and as far as our community goes he doesn't take anything away. Think about it, if ben can't use mk he'll use diddy, and it's not like we're missing out on those.

So, we just lose people?

Arcansi, as much as it would be ideal to look at mk as a global issue, we're only talking about BC so generalized arguments don't work. Character diversity is an okay argument on a global scale, but within BC itself the argument doesn't hold at all.

1. If we legalize him here, we promote him being legalized in other places. I hope you understand this concept, but if you don't I can explain it to you.

2. Sure, it may not lower the diversity of characters within BC, but it's going to lower the diversity of top placing characters within bc by a lot.

I'm probably never going to place in a tournament with MK legal without playing him. Me and many others, for many reasons.

Really it's MK and the CP system that bugs me.

My main problem is that legalizing MK is like banning everyone below high tier. (I mean, they have almost a 0% chance to place high at all...)

 

[| Big D |]

It's MK AND the CP sytem that I have a problem with.

I'm fine of we just have one.

And people below high tier don't get practically banned... MK has been legal for years and that is certainly not the case.

 

[Captain L]

1. If we legalize him here, we promote him being legalized in other places. I hope you understand this concept, but if you don't I can explain it to you.

BC isn't even on the map as far as competitive brawl goes. When we hold phoenix events we always get outplaced by washington and alberta, both of which are barely recognized in the community. WA doesn't even have a brawl scene anymore really...

(not trying to be rude to alberta or washington but most people only ever talk about socal and new jersey when they're talking about top level play in NA)

What I'm saying is that legalizing mk here or banning him here won't make an impact on the community at all.

Most importantly though, I'm anti-ban anyways so even if banning him DOES promote banning him elsewhere, I wouldn't want that in the first place.

2. Sure, it may not lower the diversity of characters within BC, but it's going to lower the diversity of top placing characters within bc by a lot.

This is not true. I'm not trying to sound cocky, but with Jake and Drake both gone, the top spots are going to be taken by Game and Watch, Ice climbers, and Pikachu (alphabetical) at most monthlies in the forseeable future. Since I understand Rob probably won't be coming to mk legal tournaments, the only thing that could change is that the top three would become ICs MK Pika at worst.

Dawson and I have no mk problems. For me personally it's one of my most enjoyable matchups.

I'm probably never going to place in a tournament with MK legal without playing him. Me and many others, for many reasons.

But you're not coming to the locals that we're talking about so it doesn't matter. As far as other players in our community, the one who's character is most hurt by mk is Kevin, and he's in favour of mk-legal anyways.

My main problem is that legalizing MK is like banning everyone below high tier. (I mean, they have almost a 0% chance to place high at all...)

This isn't entirety true because characters like wolf and fox do better with mk legal. Peach rob and pit get a little screwed, but realistically all characters below high tier have other hard counters anyways. And one more thing, mk has exactly a 0% chance of placing high if he's banned ;D

 

[Frio]

Alberta just copies the best players' rule set AKA Japan.

 

[SinisterB]

Japanese ruleset is cool but not banning FD is pretty flaming

 

[| Big D |]

Actually no you guys altered it.

Get over yourself.

Edit: Here is the actual Japanese rule set being used for SRT.

 

[Captain L]

guys I think we should all just play duelist

 

[Jason!]

Post 20k coming

 

[SinisterB]

wow way to alert the mass

*******

 

[| Big D |]

We gone party like it's 19999

 

[Arcansi]

Sick, just remembered

EDIT: Noticed

 

[Jason!]

Looooooool everyones just waiting.

 

[Kantrip]

What are we waiting for guys?

 

[SinisterB]

no fear

 

[T-block]

this is for ALBERTAAAA

 

[| Big D |]

Who will take it?

 

[T-block]

I willllllllll

 

[Kantrip]

Did I win a prize?