Jigglypuff General Discussion Thread (Q&A)

[Dre89]

It is off.

I even made sure by tapping up and I got no jump.

It's not a jump, there's no jump animation, Jiggs just all of a sudden floated upward, she's done it a few times.

The closest thing I can think of is the long-range LCS Veril posted on Youtube ages ago, where Jiggs floats upwards using sing. The difference is I wasn't under a ledge and I wasn't using sing.

I thought you guys would know about this already.

 

[teluoborg]

Looks like you held the jump button for to long.
If you don't let go jump fast enough after a mid air jump it'll "buffer" another jump, making it look like the first jump didn't end.
Might happen if you jump then hold up, but I'm not sure.

If it's not then I demand vids because I have no idea of what you're talking about.

 

[Dre89]

I tried just holding jump and she just continuously hops up.

This was different, she would just float upward without changing animation, about the vertical length of about 2-3 mid-air jumps.

It was on wifi, and I remember already being mid-air (higher than the platform on Japes) so I probably had already done mid-air jumps. It happened a few times but I can't replicate it.

It might have something to do with the mechanics that allows the long-range LCS.

 

[GeneralWoodman]

its a footstool either while your opponent is grounded or on the ledge, its a recovery method when you run out of jumps. edgegaurd a cpu and just keep ledge hopping and watch them shoot up above you over the ledge

 

[Vmage]

Can Jigglypuff ever combo with throws? Or at least follow up with attacks after a throw?

 

[teluoborg]

Nope.

Jigg's throw have only 2 purpose : deal percents (10 per throw) and put opponent offstage.

 

[Dre89]

its a footstool either while your opponent is grounded or on the ledge, its a recovery method when you run out of jumps. edgegaurd a cpu and just keep ledge hopping and watch them shoot up above you over the ledge

It wasn't at the edge, or anywhere near the opponent.

 

[Exegguter]

Can Jigglypuff ever combo with throws? Or at least follow up with attacks after a throw?

There is 1
uthrow into jab lock, on ps1 and luigi's mansion

 

[GeneralWoodman]

if you can't replicate it, it's probably nothing or a random glitch. Or its something extremely obvious that your just not describing enough to answer

 

[Maniclysane]

B-sticking's only application is for resting though multi hit moves because it allows you to DI freely with the control stick, and rest.
Sadly, this is it's only application and it does it's job very well.
Don't B-stick, having free control over aerials and DI is a much better substitute.

No.

B-sticking lets you do crazy pound tricksies. B-reversed pounds can be a great way to abuse the priority and erratic movement. B sticking definitely has its uses. I would still listen to M-Wuz, and use a regular c-stick for DI, because with how light Jigglypuff is, she definitely needs it.

 

[EraOfGames]

You can still do the pound tricks without B-sticking, it's only harder to do, but definetly not impossible.

For anyone wondering how to do it, Pound in opposite direction you want to go and immediately tap the other direction.

 

[Jigglerpuff]

There is 1
uthrow into jab lock, on ps1 and luigi's mansion

Can't people tech off the roofs?

I wouldn't call anything that requires opponent action a combo.

 

[Cold Fusion]

Can't people tech off the roofs?

I wouldn't call anything that requires opponent action a combo.

By brawl standrds, lets just pretend it is a combo.

 

[GeneralWoodman]

i had a controller that only worked for left and right c-stick inputs. i used it for b-sticking for quite a while

 

[Teh-Shlurpie]

EB kids. i hate them

any particuler strats you guys use on em?

 

[Thinkaman]

EB kids. i hate them

any particuler strats you guys use on em?

Ganondorf.

 

[The White Zeton]

(Moved by request)

Hello, I had some questions about Jigglypuff's ability to link dair to Rest.

1. What enemy characters does this tend to work on?
2. Is this technique guaranteed?
3. Either way, are there any other (guaranteed) options out of dair, like Kirby f-smash?
4. When is the best time to fast-fall?
5. What should Jigglypuff do if they block the dair?

Thanks.

 

[Thinkaman]

Hello, I have some answers about Jigglypuff's ability to link dair to Rest. Rest is such an amazing move, you should try to use it all the time in Brawl!

What enemy characters does this tend to work on?

All of them!

Is this technique guaranteed?

Absolutely! On all enemies, at all levels of damage! Do it all the time!

Either way, are there any other (guaranteed) options out of dair, like Kirby f-smash?

Of course, you can potentially do almost any move in Jigglypuff's amazing ground moveset as a true combo! Even a Kirby-style forward smash!

When is the best time to fast-fall?

Jigglypuff shouldn't fast-fall, because landing on the ground faster hurts.

What should Jigglypuff do if they block the dair?

Just keep going and Rest anyway!

Thanks.

You're very welcome. I live to serve.

 

[lucy!JOE!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnCFo2HRcB0

havok found this a while back, your probably doing this on the curved ledge, but with an air move

^^^^^^ thats not it
like i said woody if i can have some that can do vids i will post it

 

[KayLo!]

Guys, try to resist trolling. If you don't have a legit answer to give, don't give one at all.

Thanks.

 

[Thinkaman]

Are you implying that counsel given here is not in fact serious? That's somewhat rude and undermining the validity of this board/topic.

 

[GeneralWoodman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnCFo2HRcB0

havok found this a while back, your probably doing this on the curved ledge, but with an air move

^^^^^^ thats not it
like i said woody if i can have some that can do vids i will post it

can you at least explain where on the stage it happend and what air move you used :/
im just throwing out possibilities, but you have to explain what happend or we can't really help you

 

[Vmage]

Question.

Which move(s) is the best to attack with to avoid shield grabs? (excluding grabbing)

 

[Teh-Shlurpie]

Question.

Which move(s) is the best to attack with to avoid shield grabs? (excluding grabbing)

i think spaced bairs wont get you shieldgrabbed by most characters
(unsure of D3 and his monster grab range though)

 

[lucy!JOE!]

can you at least explain where on the stage it happend and what air move you used :/
im just throwing out possibilities, but you have to explain what happend or we can't really help you

=] sure
ok pictochat is the stage...on the ledge, while she is holding on to the ledge preform her/his(green) forward areial but slighty go onto the stage.............rrrrr srry woody i really dont know how to explain it ...i would like to show you instead its sorta kinda a scar or w/e....

 

[lucy!JOE!]

Question.

Which move(s) is the best to attack with to avoid shield grabs? (excluding grabbing)

yea you can DI away from your OPP with bair i also use Nair when her feet do a split kinda thing but not sure if it works all the time...idk the details tho

 

[Thinkaman]

Question.

Which move(s) is the best to attack with to avoid shield grabs? (excluding grabbing)

Bair/dair.

 

[GeneralWoodman]

just drop down and follow the slope while fairing. The animation ends as you land on the stage. It works on sv and bf as well, it just looks cooler on picto
@Joe

 

[lucy!JOE!]

can you do a grab out of it?

 

[GeneralWoodman]

you can do anything because the animation ends as you land on the stage

 

[lucy!JOE!]

thats cool. But does it suck? can it be used as a way to get back on the stage or maybe like a regular jab to make the animation faster?

 

[GeneralWoodman]

its better than ledge attacking or rather its like a lagless ledge attack with less knock back. Use it and abuse it however you want dude

 

[lucy!JOE!]

are you being serious? =|

 

[Vmage]

Bair/dair.

Those 2 work well for me. Thanks. The n air is good too but really needs good spacing.

 

[T-block]

why attack their shield when you can turn around and AIR DODGE THROUGH THEM? (seriously ^^)

squirtle can do the slide too, and goes farther than puff. here's a frame-slowed vid of squirtle doing it - it's the same concept. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc5sXjIadUU&NR=1

 

[Vmage]

why attack their shield when you can turn around and AIR DODGE THROUGH THEM? (seriously ^^)

squirtle can do the slide too, and goes farther than puff. here's a frame-slowed vid of squirtle doing it - it's the same concept. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc5sXjIadUU&NR=1

That's what I do. I simply air dodge through them and then grab them. Grabs are my favourite. Sadly the throws don't have good combos.

Another question.

What was the highest known ranking Jigglypuff got in a tourney/tournament? (example: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.)

 

[Thinkaman]

What was the highest known ranking Jigglypuff got in a tourney/tournament? (example: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc.)

Hmm, you rang?

 

[GeneralWoodman]

didn't that one guy from that clan win a 40-60 person tournament with puff a long time ago? He just spammed rollout and no one punished him lol. sorry thinkaman, but that guy takes the title

 

[Thinkaman]

Eh? I won a 53-man (52? 54?) with Rollout as my last kill.

 

[Scabe]

How do you punish Rollout? :embarrass