Janon social thread : Lair of the Floating Back Slapping Missile Reflecting King of Evil

[leelue]

Naming techniques after their player of origin is whack. You should just call pressing down b with sonic the leelue

 

[Deleted member]

Don't forget the trademark. Otherwise someone might steal it from you.

 

[batistabus]

-Ganondorf always wins when he suicides with Side B

Thanks for listening guys <3

 

[leelue]

Here's a good match that showcases the vortex:

but m2k isn't playing

 

[Deleted member]

M2k doesn't use the Arty Vortex... He's playing Fox...

 

[Arty]

The Arty vortex is actually an in depth advanced technique. Unfortunately it's so far and beyond any smashers' realm of understanding, that revealing what it is will completely destroy the meta game.

 

[Gamegenie222]

Hmm Try me.

 

[teluoborg]

Is it wrong that I read that in ZSS' voice ?

 

[Gamegenie222]

No you just got ZSS on the mind thats all and you should pich her up on the side.

 

[Urielhelix]

The Arty vortex is actually an in depth advanced technique. Unfortunately it's so far and beyond any smashers' realm of understanding, that revealing what it is will completely destroy the meta game.

Okay so your telling me that one guy is the only one who can do this move out of all of the smash players in the world? or are you telling me that you just don't want people to know cause then they can read it when the one person uses it?

 

[ViewtifulHoe242]

thats when you know a character sucks, when people discuss naming moves in their threads.
also^ wut?

 

[.fube]

Is there any sort of list of guaranteed followups on each character out of an aerial side-b?

A few random things I have been messing with lately:
Aerial side-b to jab at low percents is a cool setup for another side-b on a lot of characters.
On big characters it's pretty easy to land d-air > IAFC > jab/d-tilt(I can't figure out if the latter is guaranteed) which does some pretty great damage (especially d-tilt with a u-air or f-air followup).

Also, auto-canceling n-airs is the best thing ever. Thank you Jesus and whoever else helped to make that happen. Mix those bad boys in with some wave-landed f-tilts and **** and Ganon is a WALL.

 

[teluoborg]

The thing is : the untechable bounce after air flame choke varies depending the characters but also his percentage.

The most interesting follow ups are Dtilt, grab, Ftilt, wizkick, Utilt and jab the nobrainer. All are character dependant, character dependant and even DI dependant if I'm not mistaken.

So yeah, you mostly have to react and feel what will work and what won't, or just be a braindead idiot like me and jab everytime.

 

[Urielhelix]

I did kinda word that weird but i don't think that the "Arty vortex" is advance. It auto-cancels, if any thing autos i don't think it is advance.

 

[teluoborg]

You know Arty was joking, right ?

 

[leelue]

The thing is : the untechable bounce after air flame choke varies depending the characters but also his percentage.

Flame choke does not vary by percentage. There was a list a long time ago about the bounce heights and what moves work when but that is lost to time.

 

[.fube]

Would I be able to test it in training, or does DI come into play? When i was experimenting with it on captain falcon, he was teching before the d-tilt followup every time, so i guess it will at least show some options that dont work...

Also, why is grounded wizkick offstage considered a bad option? It seems to cover some characters' recovery options pretty well. I could be wrong, but it doesnt really seem like anyone uses it offstage.

 

[CORY]

it's mostly dependent on fall speed. you really only get tech chase setups on fastfallers, while you can basically do anything you want as a followup on jigglypuff.

 

[Urielhelix]

I need to stop geting on when im at work... i didn't know that. XD

 

[leelue]

Di is a thing.
Side B at 999 on fox still has him ungrabbable, unlike puff at 0.

 

[Bazkip]

Polybash is this coming weekend in Montreal, gonna be attending and of course repping the Ganondorf man. CT is even gonna be there streaming, so you guys might even get to see me play. And watch me get wrecked. There are some high level players attending, I have no hopes of matching them. But I'm not there to win, just to have a good time.

One of those players if of course Kage so at least we'll get some good vids of him playing Ganon.

Pretty excited and nervous, this is my first time ever attending a tourney.

 

[teluoborg]

Gluck man, and if you want some advice here's mine : play against as many people as you can and don't be afraid to ask top players for a few games.
If it's your first tourney you're probably gonna get bodied but you'll learn more on that day than in a month of training.

 

[Spralwers]

Polybash is this coming weekend in Montreal, gonna be attending and of course repping the Ganondorf man. CT is even gonna be there streaming, so you guys might even get to see me play. And watch me get wrecked. There are some high level players attending, I have no hopes of matching them. But I'm not there to win, just to have a good time.

One of those players if of course Kage so at least we'll get some good vids of him playing Ganon.

Pretty excited and nervous, this is my first time ever attending a tourney.

I'm coming from Boston and I main Ganon as well. I've managed to get lots of good practice at the local tournaments here, crossing my fingers. I'll be bringing my set up, we should definitely play some friendlies on saturday.

 

[Bazkip]

Gluck man, and if you want some advice here's mine : play against as many people as you can and don't be afraid to ask top players for a few games.
If it's your first tourney you're probably gonna get bodied but you'll learn more on that day than in a month of training.

Haha yeah like I said I'm expecting to get wrecked. That's a good idea though, I'll make sure to do that.

I'm coming from Boston and I main Ganon as well. I've managed to get lots of good practice at the local tournaments here, crossing my fingers. I'll be bringing my set up, we should definitely play some friendlies on saturday.

Oh totally, I'm down.

 

[Yanoss1313]

Haha yeah like I said I'm expecting to get wrecked. That's a good idea though, I'll make sure to do that.



Oh totally, I'm down.

good luck man, the best part of the first time is all the wacky friendlies you'll be playing in your down time =D

Edit: i remember my first event i had a friendly that was:"4 ganondorfs, only warlock punch, go!" it was hilarious.

 

[Bazkip]

good luck man, the best part of the first time is all the wacky friendlies you'll be playing in your down time =D

Edit: i remember my first event i had a friendly that was:"4 ganondorfs, only warlock punch, go!" it was hilarious.

Slo-mo, one stock, 0.5 knockback ratio, Warlock Punch only on Temple. Best game mode.

 

[teluoborg]

Nah guys listen listen listen

GANONBALL :
Brinstar
Ganon only
Soccer balls on high

try it.

 

[ViewtifulHoe242]

is jab resetting with him possible? i've never seen it be done before

 

[| Kailex |]

It is possible, will check on it today to know which moves do it

Edit: First of all, the semi-spike hitbox on u-air can jab reset. There's his flame choke too, i think it only works on spacies though (actually only tried it on fox) grounded side-b to jab from 0-24% if not teched obv
@ ViewtifulHoe242

 

[Bazkip]

Tourney was pretty good, didn't make it out of pools but didn't finish last in my pool either, good enough for a first tourney. Commented a random stream doubles match, that was interested. Friendlies were good, won some, got wrecked in others, even got a friendly in with Kage. I took two stocks off him! You might say they were SDs, but it was totally mindgames. I was in his head, man. Legit.

 

[Yanoss1313]

Tourney was pretty good, didn't make it out of pools but didn't finish last in my pool either, good enough for a first tourney. Commented a random stream doubles match, that was interested. Friendlies were good, won some, got wrecked in others, even got a friendly in with Kage. I took two stocks off him! You might say they were SDs, but it was totally mindgames. I was in his head, man. Legit.

haha, awesome, i'm so glad you had a good experience =D

 

[Spralwers]

I went to polybash as well and managed to get top 8 with Ganon. The details of my losses in the tourney are in the match up thread. I did a best of three money match with Kage and managed to take two stocks off him both times. His strong melee fundamentals were really apparent and I'd go as far as to say he beat me with just those alone. Which I'm fine with, I've only been a competitive smasher for two months. I found Ganon's DACUS (when I was able to perform them on reaction) to be really amazing, whether it's hitting people with his nuts part of the hitbox and sending them sideways off stage, or getting both kicks and dealing 40%+ damage. I also managed to 2-0 Chibo's charizard, but both games were close and I won the last on FoD (which he counter picked) by stage spiking him with up B when he tried to edge guard me lol.

I also faced VWins's Ike in pools and got 3 stocked both matches I think. But I'd say that's more because he's a much better smasher than me than the match up.

 

[Hungry Headcrab]

Managed to break into the top 8 of our local monthlies for the first time with my Ganon today.

Ain't nothin' stoppin' this Ganon train, baby

 

[Bazkip]

Here's the match I commentated on if anyone's curious, I'm the one who says "Hello hello" at the beginning. No Ganon in these matches, unfortunately.

No idea if I did a good job or not, never done anything like that before.

 

[Spralwers]

Did fairly poorly at my local yesterday. don't have exact rankings, but there were 8 rounds before semis and I made it to round 5 (about 40 entrants). Soft came to our tournament last night and he totally outplayed me in round 3. I fought our solid Ness main and while the first match was close (last stock, 100+% damage), he totally downloaded me the second match and three stocked me. I need to play a lot more patiently, I think.

 

[Breezy]

Hey guys, I might be stopping in here occasionally. Just went to my first PM tourney a while ago and got 5th all Ganon. Going to another one in a couple weeks.

 

[Bazkip]

@BladeOFLucas, welcome to the Ganon subforum, you've certainly made your mark

Spoiler

 

[CORY]

you should learn to multi-quote, though, rather than double/triple posting ;x just saying...

 

[Bazkip]

@ Spralwers that you?

 

[Kati]

My training partner placed first with Ganon at both of our end of semester locals, but neither of us have an answer to our friend's R.o.b. We will be hitting up a bigger tournament out of town in two weeks, so hopefully he will be able to make a similar impact with Ganon.