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Is This What You Call Entertainment And Fair Play?

BUM163

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So wes sends me this brawl video at apex and like Inlovewitlil: thats plank against puffster **** is so sad. so i'm like ightt let me watch..... first thing i noticed is that it went to 10 mins exact so i knew there was going to be camping....... but this is to the next level of what is capable in brawl crawl. Now i'm starting to understand why this community is so corrupted.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbmu8fGcWaw <----- click here to watch one of the worst matches in competitve gaming history


YA are either playing for money or to make a name for yourself.... then of course since [pros] think it's cool to have all of this stupidness in the game thinking they have a chance to win.... ya keep all of it. This game called super smash bros brawl was not meant for competitve play. look at plank...... no offense but that is not skill at all. he out jump a player with a super fast and safe move and all the diddy was capable of doing was throwing bananas....... does that make plank the better player? imagine if someone use a character with no projectiles against a mk like that.... then what?


Ya are blind. i play sf4 and it is nowhere near this stupid and i been playing actual pros now. i hear alot of people saying oh brawl plus sucks and it's stupid. I know why ya say it..... cause ya have no chance in that game. How can a game get any worse than brawl crawl? Brawl plus is already 4 times better for the simple fact is that there is no chain grabbing to the extreme or none at all, moves make a whole lot more sense, basically every character in the game has a chance to compete and the game can be tweaked at any time. ONLY THE PEOPLE THAT SUCK IN COMPETITVE PLAY WILL SAY OH THIS GAME SUCKS, CAUSE IT HAS TO MUCH STUN LMAO. I bet ya used to say the same for melee cause ya couldn't deal with the speed and being [TRULY] GOOD IN THE GAME.


I will be hosting brawl plus real soon and i am helping them with the development of the game. people who want to stick to brawl crawl and kill people with an uppercut from luigi at 40 percent or kill people with a one min and a half fart at 50-60 percent or chain throw someone with with falco, pikachu and ddd and rack up extreme amount of damage. Look at ic's with one grab and it's your whole stock.... even though honestly it doesn't look easy and i can't really judge that. LOOK at snake with his extreme disjointed hitboxes that hits literally 2 characters away...... when did snake have wind powers? In melee if you was realllly good and your opponent was really bad.... it would be 4 stock game.... in brawl if you are realllly good and your opponent is really bad..... you might get a 2 stock with high percent.

I can say there is few people in Brawl crawl with actual skill. I bet the other people will not ever touch brawl plus or play any other games that require true skill. if not prove me wrong and don't touch characters such as mk and let me see ya play another game...... and if you do good, then i can recongize you as a legit competitve player. This game will not evolve and only get more broken as times passes. When i saw the results and it show nothin but the same 5 characters down the list.... i said wes this is only a year old and it already has it's main stars lol. I LOVE smash just like the rest of ya, but lets all be honest.... THIS GAME DOES NOT REQUIRE THAT MUCH SKILL AND BRAINPOWER. My summer throwdowns is coming real soon just to let ya know so if ya are interested, oni163 is my aol name and i live in the bx. IF you are scare of black people, mexicans, people who look poor or an environment that doesn't look safe 100 percent... don't come. i been in the smash scene for years now and it seems like alot of ya are scare of something you don't quite understand. For the rest of ya... i have no problem with ya coming.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbmu8fGcWaw <---------- JUST IN CASE YOU FAIL TO SEE UP TOP. ONE OF THE WORST NON SKILL MATCHES IN HISTORY.

YouTube - SSBB - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QijsuAnngSY<----- here is another terrible campy match. the snake getting hit by lasers so he doesn't get chain.... TRUE SKILL AT IT'S FINEST AND THIS IS IN JAPAN LOL.

LETS SEE WHAT PEOPLE WILL SAY WHEN THEY SEE THESE MATCHES.

LiEkOmGWtFuWaNt: this **** is putting me to sleep
Oni163: lmao
LiEkOmGWtFuWaNt: is this all that happens?
Oni163: yea
LiEkOmGWtFuWaNt: this is ****ing boring


Oni163: what you think about those two matches/
youngfab268: them ****s is stiff
youngfab268: **** is ***
youngfab268: honestly its not his fault
youngfab268: its the game
youngfab268: hes just exploiting how bad it is lol


trademark0013: i been feelin that way fr a min ma dude
trademark0013: thats why i dont touch brawl unless its jus friends
trademark0013: 10 mins?
trademark0013: ****
trademark0013: lol



AznKreatzionz: **** that **** did look gay as hell
AznKreatzionz: its just so boring now... i dont even train no more because of it
AznKreatzionz: IF you are scare of black people, mexicans, people who look poor or an environment that doesn't look safe 100 percent... don't come
AznKreatzionz: lmao epic
Oni163: lolllll

XSilvenX: hehe
XSilvenX: good points
XSilvenX: haen't finished reading yet though
Oni163: thx man


Zr0777: **** that **** is crazy
Oni163: lol
Zr0777: that **** was horrible
Zr0777: if i was that diddy.... i deadass would have left it at 0% both sides
Zr0777: and wait for him to get stupid
Zr0777: cus he would never stop camping
Zr0777: people dont have to resort to that type of gameplay yet they do
Zr0777: just for the win
Zr0777: that snake match is mad gay
Zr0777: ***** came back invinceable and started camping all over again
Oni163: it's not only done in usa which is sad
Oni163: that tells you where the game level is at

Nolamoh: wow how u waste 8 mins Air Planking -_-
Oni163: you seen it?
Nolamoh: dude... Meta Knight stayed in the air for 7 mins
Nolamoh: and the other times he was on the ground
Oni163: what you thought about the match
Oni163: ;'
Nolamoh: well if i had to fast forward to the ending of the match, that tells u that it wasn't interesting at all
Oni163: wowww lol
Nolamoh: Meta Knight flow all across Kanto, collecting 8 badges in 8 mins with D-airs
Nolamoh: lol not even Ash got that far
Nolamoh: lol
Oni163: lol thats funny



Shadow000Link: lol why do people even bother..
Shadow000Link: you cant convince whack people to do shoryukens, or teach them! ^_^
Oni163: what you thought about the two matches?
Shadow000Link: uhh what matches?
Shadow000Link: lol
Shadow000Link: those werent matches
Oni163: lol
Shadow000Link: that was a waste of time
Shadow000Link: but about the shoryukens, people need to have skill to play SF. thats why i would money match any brawl player in SF
Shadow000Link: i got 2nd at the last brawl+ tournament. why? cause it involves some form of skill lol
Oni163: yup. you already beaten me in a 5 dollar mm.... i want pay back lol
Shadow000Link: haha word
Oni163: but i admit you was the better man
Oni163: that took skill
Shadow000Link: thank you, and i know you are right there


Oni163: what did you think about those two matches
Inlovewitlil: its sad
Inlovewitlil: a disgraces to competitiver gaming
Inlovewitlil: when money is on the line people do anything
Oni163: very true


Sukalottagrinco: im mad he left it there on the character select screen
Sukalottagrinco: with that song xD
Oni163: who?
Sukalottagrinco: plank vs diddy
Oni163: so what you thought about those 2 matches?
Sukalottagrinco: its brawl lol
Sukalottagrinco: they were both just playing the game
Sukalottagrinco: imo
Sukalottagrinco: plank isnt wrong by doing what he did
Sukalottagrinco: nor is it the other guyz fault
Sukalottagrinco: its just the characters themselves
Oni163: you think brawl plus should take over?
Sukalottagrinco: MK doesnt wana get banana comboed and Diddy is playing his banana game cuz its really all he has vs tornado and just his gameplay period
Sukalottagrinco: it shuld dominate the community i dont think it shuld take over
Sukalottagrinco: like reg brawl is good but when 2 ppl are playing the game well thats what u get ._.
Oni163: what you mean two people
Sukalottagrinco: like plank and the other guy
Sukalottagrinco: ppl who know what each other is guna go for and know how to counter it
Oni163: i vouch for the game and alwayd protected it.....but you don't think the game is getting worse and worse with time passing by and broken stuff being found?
Sukalottagrinco: lol def. getting a lot worse
Oni163: thats why i say brawl plus has to take over
Oni163: at least when you lose.... you losing to the better man
Sukalottagrinco: i wouldnt say that
Sukalottagrinco: until the game is 100% done
Sukalottagrinco: cuz rite now brawl+ is just broken
Sukalottagrinco: small characters still have the higher chance of winning
Oni163: very true... but just the fact that everything can be fixed is why it's the better game automatically.
Oni163: but yea it's [less broken] and still needs alot of tweaking
Sukalottagrinco: yea
Sukalottagrinco: i say brawl+ wont be perfect but itll be better then reg brawl
Oni163: if the developers listen and make things alot more balance..... it can be a great game that would be played for years like melee
Sukalottagrinco: yea
Oni163: the simple fact that those players have to played like that and so many broken tactics and things having to be banned just to make the game playable..... is the reason why brawl doesn't require skill and is not competitve


sevenpiecesix: the game hasnt changed AT ALL, like i mean **** man i can watch sf4 matches from december and then sf matches from like april and i dont even play the game but i can see OBVIOUS differences
Oni163: exactly.
sevenpiecesix: like the different combos and ****
Oni163: it's not evolving


DarkDragoonBrawl: Hey Bum! Giving you a thumbs up on that Brawl+ stuff.
Oni163: thx appericate it
DarkDragoonBrawl: I've been plugging it all over the place in CT, and its kinda catching on. I haven't been able to boot up vBrawl since getting the codes going.
Oni163: who this
DarkDragoonBrawl: DarkDragoon
Oni163: oh ok
DarkDragoonBrawl: But yea. I started up that match, left it going while I made a sandwhich, came back, and thought I had it paused because it looked the same.
Oni163: lmao serious?
DarkDragoonBrawl: Seriously.
DarkDragoonBrawl: After the first 2 minutes, I realized it was all going to be repeating.
Oni163: i'm just trying to let the community know thats it's still in the same level after a year plus. i'm not trying to bash it and be a ****. i just want to inform people of the situation cause it seems like they are not aware of it.



Sneak8288: **** i just read ur post... finally someone exposed why the brawl noobs dont like brawl+... they know they will get they're **** ***** if they cant air dodge outta every hit
Oni163: yup. i'm shedding the light and being honest
Oni163: i'm not the bad guy. i'm the guy that will tell you the deal
Sneak8288: yea... its ridiculous when u can play the game for like 2 days and play almost every character and it would be tourney level
Oni163: exactly
Oni163: i have to train in games like gow 2 and sf4 just to stay in tip top shape
Oni163: ighttt. but so what you thought about what i said
Sneak8288: like u hit the problem right on the head... i remember i was talkin to wes, dire, n i think blu chu was there on the way back from cot4 about it
Sneak8288: and how gay brawl is becoming
Sneak8288: and that **** is just gettin worse and worse
Oni163: it's true
Sneak8288: but im glad plank exploits how stupid the game actually is
Oni163: and what is possible to win
Sneak8288: like.. yea u might get turtled in sf4 but that **** is very beatable


yes2good9487: It's the least fun I've ever had with a game. It takes zero skill to play, and the game revolves around mindless camping. It's the only way to win. Games last for so long because there's no hitstun, and it's impossible to gimp someone unless they're Link. Camping involves one character spamming ****, and if the other character has to chase, they do this for a minute or so. Once the chaser catches the camper, the camper takes about 10% damage and the camping resets. How is that fun, and how is that preferred by people over brawl+ where all the skill-less chaingrabs and infinites are gone? I just don't get it...
Oni163: yo that is the best one i seen lol


More interviews from players of different communities coming soon.
 

DireVulcan

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It's understood that Brawl+ stands no chance of being mainstream due to it's uber-hax0r'dness but as far as huge player-held tourneys are concerned (such as APEX aka GAYSEX) perhaps now that the power to balance to game is in our hands, it'd be smart to use it effectively and create a better, more fun competitive game.

It is indeed not their faults, because it is the game being that bad...but Brawl+ retains the ability to be tweaked at first sign of imbalance.

I'm down for Brawl+
 

The Pope

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I have to agree with Bum on this one. Brawl has gotten so boring just because of this type of playstyle. To be fair, it's Plank and we all know how he plays. Also, the games mechanics lend itself to be played like this. Its sad that we're only going to see more of this for about another 6 years.

All I can say is if people want a more intense game, either play SFIV, wait til Brawl + gets finalized as the tournament standard, or ban the broken characters in Brawl.
 

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All I can say is if people want a more intense game, either play SFIV, wait til Brawl + gets finalized as the tournament standard, or ban the broken characters in Brawl.
Good effing point. I totally agree with those 3 choices...and Meta Knight is still a bit broken in Brawl + 4.1 so that has to change real fast
 

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some people put up with it, have fun as they do gay sht. bum if you dont like it, brawl + or sf4 play those then. ur really good at brawl crawl tho, you win money why not advance the game so that its not so turtle-ish
 

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Because there is no advancing to be made, Seph. The game is based on camping. Why fight when there are no combos, hitstun and in some cases you get punished for hitting your opponent.

Camping is waaaay better. You can camp and camp and camp. If your opponent catches you, you take 10% and then go back to camping until they catch you again, which doesn't happen quite often. In brawl+, I admit I camp like a gay, but my fox gets combo'd and ***** for being caught.

SF4 I can't say much because I main Zangief lmfao...Lariat2goodz
 

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This is why I only played Brawl+ while I was at Apex. (btw, Chu vs Yes! Brawl+ finals were waaaaay more intense and fast-paced and entertaining than M2K vs Ally Brawl finals)

Plank is my hero. Brawl is a stupid uncompetitive game and any time he can make people hate it, I would count that as a win.

Hope to see you all in Philly this weekend. Raphael is getting antsy.
 

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I hope you're kidding with sf4 being a more intense game.......You have to turtle aka camp to win in that lol

O btw I didn't watch the whole match (skipped thru it) but I sure did find it entertaining in a funny way. I also find this thread funny..... a wall of text was written to bash that match, which makes it even more funny. lol good stuff plank
 

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hahah i thought this match was funny as ****. it did i dunno intentionally or not, but it did make a complete and utter mockery of this game lol ^.^

which makes me happy.
b/c brawl is a joke.
hahhahahhaha
 

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those are just vids of people who are bad at the game. the diddy just wasn't good enough/smart enough to get around Plank's simple strategy. Plank probably wasn't better at the game, but he is definitely a lot smarter

i could definitely post an equally boring match of Dhalsim vs Sagat in SFIV
 

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sadly diddy has a -better- chance against this strategy than a lot of characters. im gonna be doing stuff like this a lot more coming up...
 

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Yeah, i was considering doing it to waltz when i played him in tourney. But i didn't, he's not -that- lame of a player. But in retrospect I wish I did, **** is annoying to fight. Oh well, next time! :p
 

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plank was in the air for 5.4 minutes in that match

how bout a air time rule along with ledge grabs lol
 

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yeah sure, but then every wario would be dq'd every tourney match. lol
Puff can be annoying but thats a long description of insults about him and making him look bad in your layout of what happened in the match. Didn't really seem needed.

I don't see what the big deal is in this particular match, Puff could have hit him with nanners on peanuts(maybe) while he was jumping around all that time. Yeah its a gay strategy but I still believe he had options unlike what some chars would have. I'd have more sympathy if a bad character was used on puffs part.
 

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From what I understand Dapuffster timed out Atomsk at Cot4.

What goes around comes around?

Plus, you know, MK's D-air has transended priority so you just have to time an U-air through it at the correct time/

ask Seibrik I played against his MK with my Falco at COT4 and he tried air camp me and failed. He started destroying but I came back and won(the game not the set) because I just waited and timed stuff.

Edit: wait, Dapuffster played Diddy and he couldn't get passed D-air camping?!?!? he has bananas, all he has to do was wait for a D-air Glide toss the banana up and then run away
 

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Honestly though, Bum, that match was hilarious. If I ever play brawl, that's what I plan on doing. Plank I already said it before, but you're an inspiration.
 

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From what I understand Dapuffster timed out Atomsk at Cot4.

What goes around comes around?

Plus, you know, MK's D-air has transended priority so you just have to time an U-air through it at the correct time/

ask Seibrik I played against his MK with my Falco at COT4 and he tried air camp me and failed. He started destroying but I came back and won(the game not the set) because I just waited and timed stuff.

Edit: wait, Dapuffster played Diddy and he couldn't get passed D-air camping?!?!? he has bananas, all he has to do was wait for a D-air Glide toss the banana up and then run away
See the second part of my post :laugh:

He had options but oh well. Its over now
 

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It seems puffster is unable to do anything BUT camp, so even if he could potentially win by being aggressive, he has no idea how to do so.
 

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those are just vids of people who are bad at the game. the diddy just wasn't good enough/smart enough to get around Plank's simple strategy. Plank probably wasn't better at the game, but he is definitely a lot smarter

i could definitely post an equally boring match of Dhalsim vs Sagat in SFIV
QFT

Bum, ADHD beat Plank 2-0 when he tried this stuff.
 

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What a huge and ultimately pointless wall of text to yet again bash a tournament you didn't show up to.

That match was on puffster going about it badly, nevermind the fact that he plays a character that moves around the air just fine.

You're going to tell me that one match in a set against a notoriously campy as **** player in a tournament where COUNTLESS amazing matches were played is going to offset all the good matches that went down?

Chu vs Yes! Brawl+ finals were waaaaay more intense and fast-paced and entertaining than M2K vs Ally Brawl finals
Yeah if you count 3 matches on FD, 2 of which ending the exact same way essentially 'intense' (neither would have happened on smashville or even the wifi room replacement of new pork city that people were shouting for the players to use repeatedly)

When watching the end of brawl+ all I saw was a copious amount of mindless aggression and a number of matches being lost because of sheer acting before thinking. Should I base the entire game off of a match or 2 going down that way? No, not really. Using that logic melee's campy skillessness was shown by spammer on pokefloats.

Lastly, it's a tournament match. You're going to complain about entertainment in a tournament match? Last I checked, if you're paying money to enter something with a cash payout and your first priority isnt that cash payout, you were better off playing friendlies. The goal of types of sets are all different, friendlies can be fun or pride, money matches can be pride or the money, tournament matches should flat out be the money, no exceptions.

In other words put your bible down and get off your soapbox, ****'s boring.

Also it's funny to see a bunch of people who all play characters that flat out gayed the **** out of my old main complain about gay tactics in this game, acting like you know.
 

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Hey Bum, how come you didn't go to Apex?

Also, btw...besides this match there were quite a few ppl who was inspired to play Brawl after this tournament. There were lot's of other interesting matches.
 

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Funny Community

Its funny how me and the rest of D.A tried to hold tournaments based on rules that will make the more competitive but yet people dont show up lol. And now i hear complaints from people about camping and all of the gay ****. Well ryoshet what bum is trying to say ok we understand that your not always going to get entertainment out of a tournament match but the things that are used to win tournament matches are silly. Now right now you sound like an hippercrite because yesterday we was playing and u said it your self you dont enjoy Brawl(REGULAR BRAWL) winning or losing. Does that make sense but u stand by the game eventhough u say the things that people do to win and the way the game is makes u tired of it? To be honest the way the community go about implementing rules into tournament play make the game not really competitve at all and like i said awhile back it will kill the span of the game.



Already people are retiring from and come back to this game and it hasnt been 2 yrs yet wtf. **** is silly people. The game is already starting to get like the ending yrs of melee ALREADY. this **** is tiring and i hear ********s like DIEM AND OTHERS ONT HE LIVESTREAM BEING sarcastic ***** saying"You see this is why mk should be banned because only like 2 mk players placed top 10 in apex" . ********S THAT NOT WHY HE SHOULD BE BANNED AND IM NOT GOING TO TYPE WHY EITHER YOU AND EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW EVERYONE WHO PLAYS WITH MK WHO THINK THEY ARE GOOD WITH HIM SUCKS AT THIS GAME PERIOD EVEN M2K HIMSELF SUCKS. HE JUST WINS BECAUSE HE IS GOOD AT BEING CHEAP AND ALOT OF PEOPLE HE PLAY ALREADY EXPECT TO LOSE SO WHY TRY HARD. And the only reason this guy ALLEY beat him is because its snake vs mk snake can beat mk. But that doesnt mean mk should be banned **** snake is border-line ban. But like i said people we as a community need to really just think about things to make this a better game.


SHADOW IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHY THE COMMUNITY IS GOIGN TO GO DOWN AND PLANNK TOO. A while ago i talked to shadow online and told him that he wasnt good with mk and that mk should be banned Shadow didnt thing so i told him that he is being unfair. Then he said that well he is winning im telling him that slowly he will win but the payouts for 1st will get lower and lower and lower until its not going to be any decent turnouts left. But the funny thing is he didnt care when i said that lol. And i can see why people like mlg and other leagues didnt pick up brawl yet thats because this community is a bunch of lil kids that just want to win on all costs no matter if its fair or not. The way of this community is " if you cant beat them join them" You know how boring that is for leagues to pick up a game that the finals will be the same 2 to MAYBE 3 CHARACTERS over and over again, BORING!!!!

But like i said people the future of the community rests in the hands of the mass majority of this community.


And to shadow dont take this personal eventhough u still may im just stating the facts im just being real with you alot of people think the same way i do they are just not telling you to your face that its just your character not you. Your a nice cool dude i just dont think you would be winning at all if u didnt have mk.
 

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Congratulations Wes. You are, indeed, the biggest scrub I have ever met. I am going to buy a pair of scrubs and carry them with me to every NJ/NY tournament I ever go to just in case you are there. I will serenade you with the official "Scrub of Universe" award with a plaque and a fresh new pair of scrubs. What color would you prefer, Wes?
 

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****head award

Congratulations Wes. You are, indeed, the biggest scrub I have ever met. I am going to buy a pair of scrubs and carry them with me to every NJ/NY tournament I ever go to just in case you are there. I will serenade you with the official "Scrub of Universe" award with a plaque and a fresh new pair of scrubs. What color would you prefer, Wes?
If am a scrub then how did a well know sheik player lose to A samus player like me if im a scrub then what are u then a piece of dog **** underneath someone shoes. SO i will gladly take ur award will u take my award its a golden shoe wit a **** skid mark on it and in that skid mark is your name. Oh yeaah how rude of me what color you want the skid mark to be i have a selection of colors u can choose from: doodoo brown, doo doo green, doo doo dark brown and doodoo reddish brown you choose think carefully now young lad.
 

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Well said wes. ryko**** cause now thats what i'm going to call you... yo i heard about you yesterday. you went to wes house got own and left 20 mins after you got there complaining how bad brawl is. This community sickens me. Crimas i'm not talking bad about the tournament at all cause 200 plus people is a beautiful thing and big ups to ya. I'm talking about the gameplay of this game.

This is a broken game that is not watchable. Ya of course want to say otherwise cause ya want to kiss a55, so ya have more chance to talk to a pro player or get tips from one or whatever the case is. Mk's can float and do that gay **** all day if they wanted to... and of course snake can fight mk...... that dude has projectiles and wind powers. I noticed the mk/snake players are the only ones defending this game like inui.

yea sagat and dhaslism is a boring fight..... but the game is a box. You can only go so far and none of them can jump multiple times so don't evennnnnn try to bring it down to the same level. Basically what i am saying is that this game will die fast as long as people keep losing to cheap stuff..... would you want to keep giving your money to players who obviosuly isn't better. Nothing has changed, but it getting more broken as times passes on.


Of course i don't go to these tournaments anymore. This game isn't about skill. I would love to see someone say they are better than me in brawl lol. I will say use every character and i will also and lets see who wins...... then i will say lets play sf4 and see who wins, then gears of war 2 and lets see who wins and keep it going. Ya are not true competitors man. The fact that this game needs custom bans to the extreme is why it's a bad game. It's been a year yet rules are still not down packed yet lol. You go to one tournament to the next and the rules are like completely different. SAY I'M WRONG AND I WILL SHOW YOU 4 TOURNAMENTS WITH 4 DIFFERENT RULES GURANTEED.

I also know whats the problem with this community. Ya are either young kids or young minded adults real talk. I can agree that in a tournament match or boxing match or whatever, you have to play your style to win..... but when you boring your audience/fans will start to die down. To be continue combos lmao..... like serious thats not even cute at all. You get hit with an down air from ganondorf and you are able to air dodge right away lol. RYKO**** COMPLAINING ABOUT BRAWL PLUS AND IT'S MINDLESS AGGRESSION LOL. SO I GUESS IN BOXING THERE IS MINDLESS AGGRESSION AND IN FOOTBALL IT IS MINDLESS AGGRESSION WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO RUN WITH THE FOOTBALL TO SCORE A TOUCHDOWN....... this is how half the community is.... they bash brawl crawl and then when they see pros like oh this is why this game is great, they want to bend down and start the sucking.
 

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I just wanted to post this up in cause some pplz missed it:

1: Ally(Snake)
2: Mew2King(Mk)
3: Lain(Ics, DDD)
4: Anti(Snake, MK)
5: Atomsk(DDD)
5: Ksizzle(Lucario, MK)
7: ADHD(Diddy Kong)
7: Anther(Pikachu)
9: Seibrik(MK, DDD)
9: Candy(Snake)
9: NinjaLink(Rob, Diddy, Pikachu)
9: Blackwaltz(Olimar)

NON-MK dominate. I know you're talking about the gameplay Bum...I'm just saying there were a lot of matches being played not just that one. You should've been there to see all the matches.
 

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If am a scrub then how did a well know sheik player lose to A samus player like me if im a scrub then what are u then a piece of dog **** underneath someone shoes. SO i will gladly take ur award will u take my award its a golden shoe wit a **** skid mark on it and in that skid mark is your name. Oh yeaah how rude of me what color you want the skid mark to be i have a selection of colors u can choose from: doodoo brown, doo doo green, doo doo dark brown and doodoo reddish brown you choose think carefully now young lad.
Because at the time we played I had played the game for 6-8 months, and you had played for over 4 years? By the time melee ended I would've torn you apart so hard. All you were was a 2nd rate HugS.

Actually as a matter of fact, you were a second rate Crashman.
 

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Because at the time we played I had played the game for 6-8 months, and you had played for over 4 years? By the time melee ended I would've torn you apart so hard. All you were was a 2nd rate HugS.

Actually as a matter of fact, you were a second rate Crashman.
you can use the hugs card like everyone else does it doesnt matter to me lol cause i would rather be 2nd best then # 1020230303 sheik player and the only reason hugs would be beetter thann me is because of the fact he went tomore tournaments at the time when i was quitting and placed top 13 lol everytime. But me when i was at my prime and everyone was good i would place top 5 to 9 everytime but im not going to go on about the past the game melee is done adn u suck in both brawl in melee so w.e loll.
 

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If you read my wall of bashing as they called it.... i mention that it already came down to like 5 characters and you prove me right lmao.

snake - 1 snake
mk - 1 mk
ic's,ddd - 1 ddd
snake, mk - 2 snake
ddd - 2 ddd
lucario,mk - 2 mk
diddy kong - 1 diddy
pikachu - 1 pikachu
mk, ddd- 3 mk, 3 ddd
snake - 3 snake
rob,diddy pikachu - 2 diddy, 2 pikachu
olimar

only 3 different characters made this list..... is that really good lol? pikachu will be used by alot of people soon and diddy is already getting popular. after lain show what the ic's can do.... watch their be replicas of lain ic's everywhere. the game is just getting more broken and you prove me right.
 

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Good luck Mario
Yeah, i was considering doing it to waltz when i played him in tourney. But i didn't, he's not -that- lame of a player. But in retrospect I wish I did, **** is annoying to fight. Oh well, next time! :p
I did it to BlackWaltz.

Using that logic melee's campy skillessness was shown by spammer on pokefloats.
That **** is hard as hell to do properly. I challenge any Brawl player who thinks that it is easy to try that against good people in Melee.

I don't like SFIV but it still looks better than Brawl crawl. This whole set takes less time than many single Brawl matches played properly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BxxfynW8dM

 

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you can use the hugs card like everyone else does it doesnt matter to me lol cause i would rather be 2nd best then # 1020230303 sheik player and the only reason hugs would be beetter thann me is because of the fact he went tomore tournaments at the time when i was quitting and placed top 13 lol everytime. But me when i was at my prime and everyone was good i would place top 5 to 9 everytime but im not going to go on about the past the game melee is done adn u suck in both brawl in melee so w.e loll.
Yeah you can say I suck at melee and brawl, but I would **** you at both of them terribly so what does is matter what you say, Wes? You are all talk and you've always been all talk. Nobody has been impressed with anything you've done since 2004. You aren't a hotshot and you mean nothing to the smash community. Continue hosting your stupid scrubby tournaments with stupid scrubby rules, nobody cares and it doesn't effect any of us. You will never be good again unless you drop the idiotic mentality. Period.
 

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YUP SPAM IS RIGHT AND WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN AT LOL? SF4 has real combos and yea you can turtle, but no one can run forever.... you eventually will hit a corner. melee took alot more skill than brawl. i like brawl cause of the characters and the stages. I'm not mad at anyone. I just don't like how ya bash brawl plus when it's not even at tip top shape and it's still alot better than brawl crawl. It's not cause you can do combos or it's more flashy..... but it don't make sense when mk does a 1000 mph tornado and doesn't have bad after lag. In every fighting game if you spin like yoshmistu or dk and bowser or rufus in sf4 or zang most people can duck under his [spinning] lariat, you have either lag or you are vunerable in some kind of way. In brawl plus mk has alot more lag than in brawl crawl which makes more sense. up b doesn't kill fast anymore from him either.

Ya all complain about sakurai messing up and ya was quitting... but now that ya are making money.... ya want to keep this version of this game alive lol. I bet when ya start losing money in months ya will be like ****.... bum was right.
 
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