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Inferno's Decarde, The Bowser Video & Critique Thread

MrEh

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KingKong be trollin.


I don't play against Zamus yet, so I'm afraid I run into way too many of her attacks, namely side B. Any critique would be legit.
On an actual flat stage, run up to her face and spam Jab. What's she gonna do about it? lol
 

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I hate Diddy so... much... Anyway, in my lowly opinion those were very well-fought. I noticed a great lack in firebreath though, which is one of my favorite methods of gimping Diddy. But that's probably just a personal preference about the move. On another praising note, your second-stock comeback in the first video was epic!
 

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I don't think KJ will update this anytime soon. I'll get to it this week.
 

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I think vs Diddy you just have to be very patient. I let myself get overwhelmed when I play against a character that can take stage control like *insert finger snap* that, which is why I lost to MBlaze when I did. but he kinda is the reason I won against Sai lol

When you keep your composure stuff comes easily, and you can rebuild your momentum, which is why I kept coming back from 200% deficits. lol

The Diddy MU is still ****ing ********, but yeah, it just certainly helps to not lose your cool. Thanks Zigsta.
 

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yeah, critique is certainly a way to get better overall as a player.
 

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Not sure if you guys heard or not, but KJ requested a permanent ban from the site. As such, I've taken over the video thread, and I'll be revamping it this weekend.

If you guys have a preference as to formatting, let me know.
 

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Is he done with Smash?
Why are permament ban though, can't he just like, not come here? lol
 

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Good game, Phiddlediddles!

It seems you were Klaw Hopping a bit too much--Olimar's really good at punishing that with pivot grab and upsmash. I'll tell ya the same thing KK told me back in the day: Mix up your Klaw Hopping approaches with shorthop airdodged Fortresses and fairs.

Also, good stuff bringing it back on Brinstar. <3 that stage.

What color would you like your name to be in, Phiddle?
 

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hot pink

also i think that might be game 3, i remember game 1 he used luigi and i won, and i think i won the set 2-1

klawhopping is unbeatable, but i guess i could use it less to lull my opponents into a false sense of security
 

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well if this thread is still active. here's some matches from an offline yesterday.

vs MK (loser finals)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLntgYDs4ws&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjnzQOey4HQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWlxgT6Y_-0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

as you see i didn't win a single one.

vs yoshi (friendly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXFozcs2J_M&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

there should be more to come once my friend gets the other matches i had uploaded.
 

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Active? Are you joking? The last post was a week ago. That's very recent by Bowser Board standards? What forum did you come from? The Ganondorf one? O.o
 

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from a smashfest, theyre all money matches:

vs. Penta [Ganondorf]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE8wwWu1sBw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB4wffg24-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MFTetCwT0U

vs Penta [G&W]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMFSEWGTuQM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-BqlL19HaI

vs Zorai [Marth] Set I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5v1K9gS_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es9xZXMDoNc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwyuJ2DjCoA

vs Zen [Falco]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1YP53GNAN8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyF5TTa1VcY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST2BA35gJsI

there are 2 more sets i need to record, vs red-x in which i lost and a salty run-back against Zorai that I also won.

I haven't played this game in like 2 months, idk i don't feel like i performed that well
 

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vs. Penta [Ganondorf]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE8wwWu1sBw Ha, Ganondorf.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB4wffg24-4 Ha... wha? He won? O.o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MFTetCwT0U Wow, that DownB is terrible. You shielded it, turned around, walked back a bit, turned back around and grabbed him ALL while he was still in the middle of it. o.o ... Okay, Vermanubis, Penta is not.

vs Penta [G&W]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMFSEWGTuQM Awwwww, almost.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-BqlL19HaI Bah. Did the best you could do.

vs Zorai [Marth] Set I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5v1K9gS_k I'm sorry, but I had to lol at that first stock. Good job winning though. MrEh would be proud of your win on Yoshi's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es9xZXMDoNc I blame the stage on that first stock. **** Lylat. Nice edgehog though. Dang, way to make that last stock last, man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwyuJ2DjCoA Ouch. 54% unanswered on stock 2. D: Ohhhhhh! Good job bringing it back!... and the FSmash for the victory! Good ****! :D How long have you been away from Smash again?

vs Zen [Falco]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1YP53GNAN8 You almost brought it back. Nice try man, nice try. I kept chanting "choke! choke! choke!" in my head. XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyF5TTa1VcY Oooohhhh! Bowser took Falco's face, wiped it across his butt cheeks and said, "good-bye, *****!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST2BA35gJsI Awww, good try, good try.
 

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I've been "away" from smash from january to march

by "away" I mean I haven't touched a controller or turned on my own wii since that time period because I've been up at school.

I did ok I guess lol

i still have to record the second set vs zorai

but i've been caught in pokemon white so forgive me
 

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good effort, just a few small things that i'd like to point out:

-as bowser, never roll against a snake, his roll is terrible and you'll receive 21% damage more often than not. although that snake didn't really care/pick up on that, it's not a good idea. you think you're getting away from snake and he'll just get you in your ***.

-he was getting you with nair a lot more than he should have. when he was above you doing nair, you should have just walked/dashed under him and used usmash or utilt or even just waited on the ground.

-the double jump -> airdodge: what is it's purpose? lol

- you can grab release into a lot more than jab as bowser vs snake. i'm not sure if you didn't know or if you just weren't confident about your grab releasing skills. if either applies, work on that.

- at 1:28, i'm not completely sure if you were trying to klawhop or not, because it happened more times as well. you're klawing too early. if not then i guess empty klaws are fine but you are using those kinda early too.
 

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I just wanna say, major props to the owner of that Wii for the third game against Red. That intro song is too good.

Great games, by the way. Limit da bess.

EDIT: WOAH! Sick ending to game 5 against Red. Even though you read the Counter, it still wasn't enough! Those were some good game. Oh, I already said that. D:
 

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The music in Limit's videos is too good.

Where do you get your music from, Limit? o:
 

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Megaman. Lots of Megaman.
I don't follow.

And usually most of my brstms are self-made. I just have audacity, brawlbox and a good ear for certain songs on certain stages. After watching like 3+ years worth of Brawl videos I know what songs fit well on BF, FD, SV etc. Whatever feeling I'm trying to get or evoke is the theme of the stage and will usually be the theme of my songs.

For example, on SV, I have a lot of metal/go-hard songs because SV is my favorite stage and I like to be pumped/jamming while playing there. It's rare, but I have heard songs that sound PERFECT on the stage and are must haves. For example, on 2:00 AM I have Sneakman (Toronto Mix) from JSRF on there, and I got that from RJ's channel.

And occasionally there are songs I hear that are good but wouldn't fit on a stage for me if I was playing on it. Example: as an oddball song I have SFIII - Jazzy NYC [Latin mix] on The Roost because it sounded really good and different. So far it's done really well lol, originally I heard it on FD, which doesn't really make sense musically to me. FD speaks darkly/more intensely to me than most stages, so I put evil/climactic songs on there. Jazzy NYC just didn't fit.

And I'm sure you guys have noticed I use a lot of button codes, because I think I have like close to 20 button combinations for different songs and things like that. Sometimes I watch replays and think, damn, the video would flow a lot better if I played X song instead. There are also times where the actual song plays perfectly for it. idk I'm a music ***** lol. But yeah. I just use my own ears and don't go by much. I've heard all of the songs before...all I do is ask around for song names and then make the brstms myself. Other things I recall randomly in my head at random times like "hey, I remember this song from game ____!!"

my mind is pretty much music since I don't really watch TV, so I guess I'm better off than most people when it comes to constructing brstms and things like that lol
 

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I don't know but I can explain it to you, it's really simple.

Just, before you go into the process, download audacity and download brawlbox if you don't have it already.

Whatever song you desire, let's call it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SxrxQy3HO0 this for example.

What you would do is download the MP3 of this however you can. Once you have the MP3, Open Audacity, and you can adjust the volume/start and endpoints of the song/speaker shift/bass boost reduction, literally WHATEVER you want or desire. Audacity is an excellent music editing tool.

When you're done ****ing around with the song and have the right adjustments, EXPORT IT AS A WAV FILE, Brawlbox doesn't read anything besides .brstm and .wav files. .wav files being what I just mentioned, and brstm files being what you'll put on your SD card. I'm sure you know this.

Anyway, with wav file in hand, open brawlbox, and go to file, new, and go to brstm audio stream. Select the wav file, and then a window will open. What you want to do here is set up your looping points. the bar on the left being where your loop will start (don't confuse it with where the song will start, you may or may not have edited that with audacity, but it'll always start at the 0:00 point of your song, and will go up until the "loop end" point. from the loop end point, the song will then go to the loop start point.)

So to be a perfectionist like I kinda am sometimes, I like to have flawless looping, so i'll sit for as long as 10 minutes until I find a decent/good/perfect loop point. to create the loops, just press the button with * on it. and be sure to click the loop checkbox in the bottom left, otherwise your song will play from start to end with no loop.

with the final brstm you want, just save it and unleash your musical wrath. If you don't like it or would like to adjust something like the volume or speaker ratio or something, then you can go back to audacity and mess with the wav. to remake the brstm, all you need to do is copy and paste the numbers you see on LoopStartSample and NumSamples, which are the start/end loop numbers respectively.

this is probably an extremely ****ty guide but im kinda in a rush. I put down the majority of the basic stuff. with experience/just messing around with a song a few times/frustration you'll learn to be perfect. trust me loops are important, otherwise the song just plays extremely awkwardly, or transitions into a weird part of the song and doesn't sound right if the loop is bad.

edit: wow i linked that song and didn't even use it as an example. so yeah, i would probably turn up the volume a bit on that, maybe +3 or so, but be careful, if you turn the volume up too much it'll become really statical and you don't want that. or maybe you're into that type of stuff. idk. but yeah, turn the volume up. then open it in brawlbox, and as looping points, i'd take the end loop around 2:00 as an end point and go to :24 as a start. the song i linked is really simple, and if you listen to it once if you're good or twice as an average number, you'll be able to tell/see/hear good points to loop the song at.

and i mean, as to where you'd place the thing...tbh it's up to you. whatever you feel like would give you the best use out of that song. I'd put it on the menu, but that's just me. I don't have that song on Brawl and I'm probably not gonna put it on, but it's a good example.
 

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Ah. Nice, Limit.

I was actually just thinking, like, where do you get your music. As in source. Ha ha. I'm the same as you. I don't really watch TV so all I do is music. xD
 

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Thanks for that limit :)

I've already got my folder structures prepared to it's just a matter of getting the right music and to **** around as you said.
 
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