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[Crizthakidd]

while upsmash covers it in what doom is saying the safest way. its not the best in most situations for the risk reward ratio

but i dare u nibs to challenge nairo's upb lmao then ull see why upsmash is the good choice.

 

[Dru2]

Alright, it looks like there's an important conversation going on, so i'll make this short and quick.

This has probably been said before but If try to hit someone with an advancing SH Dair but they spot-dodge or shield it, right before you land you can do a quick FF Uair. This usually catches them off guard and comes in pretty handy.

Alright, continue the convo. Sorry for interrupting ^^'

 

[Max Ketchum]

Nair works better for that because it has more active hitboxes and deals more damage/knockback

Why would you approach with SH dair in like...any situation anyway?

 

[Dru2]

...nevermind then.

 

[Dr. Tuen]

I like to use utilt -> utilt -> SL at low percents. It's usually set up via a dash attack (does not work at zero, it works if the dash attack hits at ~10-15%).

Someone also mentioned dash attacking a fast faller like Falco at low percents. In the case of Falco, I wouldn't recommend turnaround ftilt as a follow, since a shield grab is eminent. I'd personally go for a rising nair or dair. If you get the hit, good job, otherwise it's a good escape from CG openings.

 

[Kaffei]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASjsfHDq14c
loooolol

 

[Dru2]

^ woah sick.

 

[\\~Call~Me~Coca~//]

Ok first of all you DONT NEED tactics for him hes so cheap just grab D grab D grab D and F smash and there, you win

 

[etecoon]

Ok first of all you DONT NEED tactics for him hes so cheap just grab D grab D grab D and F smash and there, you win

*looks at your location*

come to DNA8 and MM my snake with MK then : p

 

[6Mizu]

When dair camping as a mix up I think you guys should try footstool > dair. Sound good?

 

[2busywinning]

first post!

 

[-LzR-]

When dair camping as a mix up I think you guys should try footstool > dair. Sound good?

I do this quite a lot, it gives you a lot of breathing room if you need it.

 

[Orion*]

When dair camping as a mix up I think you guys should try footstool > dair. Sound good?

its not very safe, and theres no real benefit in the footstool :/.

if youre going to be that greedy might as well nado//ff go for a grab and juggle them

 

[Tokyoinamerica]

I do this quite a lot, it gives you a lot of breathing room if you need it.

Is landing a footstool to dair hard? Because I only get footstool's off ledge or on accident. I think the dair alone gives you enough breathing room.

and can you rely on the footstool for camping purposes? I mean, it's very dangerous, and isn't just pointless to not use MK's ariels.

If you try to mixup with the footstool, I'm guessing you'll be eating an ftilt.

 

[Kaffei]

No, you wouldn't eat an ftilt because when they are foot stooled they can't do anything for a number of frames and that's enough to dair. It works better if you claw it.

 

[Orion*]

there is no reason to footstool them. just dair wtf

 

[Kaffei]

there is no reason to footstool them. Just dair wtf

^ .

 

[Max Ketchum]

Footstool -> nair is a true combo on Wario and ROB, if you're interested in trying that.

Then again, uair -> nair is too.

 

[Orion*]

if youre going to go for obnoxiously greedy footstools at least do some dtilt lock **** after them, seriously

 

[ぱみゅ]

It is possible to perform a Drill Lock? If so, how you can get advantage of it?

I was randomly playing against CPUs, and trying random stuff, so I don't know if it really works.

 

[Kaffei]

What is a Drill Lock??

 

[Smash G 0 D]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASjsfHDq14c

 

[Kaffei]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASjsfHDq14c

n00b i just posted that

Ok first of all you DONT NEED tactics for him hes so cheap just grab D grab D grab D and F smash and there, you win

This is the dumbest ****ing **** I've ever seen in my entire life.

 

[Kaffei]

oops double post

 

[Player-4]

This is the dumbest ****ing **** I've ever seen in my entire life.

Calm down, it was taken care of. This is why I'm around

 

[ぱみゅ]

What is a Drill Lock??

Well, y'know.... like a jablock, but with MK's Drill...

 

[Kaffei]

Calm down, it was taken care of. This is why I'm around

sorry lol .

Well, y'know.... like a jablock, but with MK's Drill...

That sounds dumb

 

[ぱみゅ]

It was silly, and I got it against a CPU. I was only asking if it was possible.

 

[-LzR-]

You should never use drill as an offensive move anyways. A nado would still be a better choice.

 

[Player-4]

Well, if you feel gimmicky you can drill to ledge canceled aerial or another B move. You can even use it to try and get a trip and a free Dsmash out of it.

 

[Smash G 0 D]

None of that is something you should try in a serious match :3

Except for maybe ledge cancels if it's DEFINITELY safe

 

[Orion*]

people actually dont know how to angle their shield for drill rush so its pretty decent sometimes -.-

 

[Max Ketchum]

Drill Rush is not a bad move at all.

 

[Player-4]

None of that is something you should try in a serious match :3

Except for maybe ledge cancels if it's DEFINITELY safe

I said "if you feel gimmicky" ._.

 

[Kaffei]

Drill Rush is not a bad move at all.

How do i fight GW please teach me Mr. Doom

 

[-LzR-]

Shield his stuff and GSL OoS. That works for his aerial stuff. And ground? Dtilt and ftilt wall him. Not that you **** him, but GSL is effective. And never ever nado G&W, ever.

 

[Kaffei]

I know that much, but I still suck at the MU

 

[-LzR-]

Then the G&W players must be good. Remember to not approach. Also, some G&W tend to love dairing. Just FFuair them and win
Learn to tech the dthrow to avoid the lethal dsmash. I think you must tech at the 3rd beep, but I just tech it on instinct.

 

[Smash G 0 D]

If a stupid GW goes for a straight Dair on your head, Utilt will beat it and kill at high % ^_^

 

[-LzR-]

Then every GW I have played against is stupid