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I hope you're 13 years old because.... ew...Ike Trivia: Ike's siter Mist is the hottest character in PoR and RD.
I like Mia and Nephenee, myself
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I hope you're 13 years old because.... ew...Ike Trivia: Ike's siter Mist is the hottest character in PoR and RD.
Interesting thought,There is one strange thing about Ragnell and Alondite and the armor, though. If you've ever tried, Ragnell and Alondite, without Yune's blessing, are unable to pierce Mantle. That suggests that BK's and Ashnard's armor were blessed by chaos.Perhaps Lehran worked something with the medallion?
Well if you assume he didn't know then that throws everything out the window.Greil seemed to know that Ragnell was the only blade that could match Alondite and pierce his armor. How did Greil know Sephiran's secrets? Ragnell and AlonditeIt's really not much of a secret. Ike's just oblivious. Piercing his armor, though... I don't think he knew. Suspected that that sword offered to him would enable him to defeat the BK? Yes. But there are various reasons why. For starters, Greil's better with a sword. I don't think he knew for sure that the BK had blessed armor.were both Altina's swords -- she was a dual wielder. As Greil was one of the Four Riders and probably quite knowledgeable about Tellius lore, doubtlessly he'd heard of them. And it's not too much to say that he'd figure they were in Begnion. After all, that became Altina's land.
Again, this question was based on the assumption that he knew General Zelgius was the soldier he trained and that the weapon the Black Knight used was a weapon Greil had knowledge of and that Ragnell was a weapon he understood to match Alondite.Has Greil ever used Ragnell before? I don't think so. The Ragnell was in Begnion's care whenever Ike wasn't using it and the BK wasn't throwing it around.
Definitely the latter. Once more, this is based on the original possibility that Greil knew the properties of Ragnell, Alondite, and the Black Knight's armor. The more Greil knows about that, the greater the possibility that he is far wiser (or dumber) than we thought.Did Greil know Radiant Dawn's storyline before he died? ... Are you asking if he's psychic? Or are you talking aboutthe senators' deception and the true story of Yune's sealing?
Eh? But the armor that was lost was the black Daeinite suit. Sure, they'd know he was alive, but I don't think that'd connect him to Begnion.What I'm suggesting, in regards to his new armor, is that if someone other than him or Sephiran created it, then that person (and their family and friends) would know the Black Knight is loyal to Begnion.
Well...Interesting thought,(I never completed my second playthrough). It'd be more plausible, to me, if they were left over from the old war. But then I must consider that Yune said she had never used that "trick" before.but wasn't Lehran, like Dheginsea, loyal to Ashera?
Because in-game wise he has the same "expertise" with axes and swords doesn't mean the same plot-wise. After all, Sigrun is the leader of the Holy Guard, but she's the weakest of the three pegasus knights. >_> Likewise, if you remember Rekka/7/Blazing Sword/first one for the GBA, Marcus is supposed to be pretty awesome, but... well....As far as Greil being handicapped for not using a sword, I think it's pretty safe to say that argument won't work. Greil was using the only SS ranked Axe on Tellius. Expounding on your line of thought, it's possible he assumed the Black Knight didn't want Greil to be on a bad end of the weapon triangle.
In PoR, the BK talks to Greil during the cutscene, and Greil says, "That voice... I remember you."Again, this question was based on the assumption that he knew General Zelgius was the soldier he trained and that the weapon the Black Knight used was a weapon Greil had knowledge of and that Ragnell was a weapon he understood to match Alondite.
What did Greil know of Zelgius and the Black Knight?From the looks of it, Greil knew everything.I never heard the BK speak, and based on what Greil said, I just assumed it was some gay american who thought he should sound like a Power Ranger foe. On a side note, in the cutscene Greil practically suicides on the Black Knight's blade.Zelgius had been his apprentice, and Greil recognized his voice. In the Japanese version of the cutscene, Zelgius didn't have his disembodied voice. So, yes, Greil knew the identity of the Black Knight and probably a few other things about his strength and so on.
I should also note that if he knew Ragnell was the sacred blade of Altina, and that Begnion owned it, then he would know that the Black Knight worked for Begnion, and was therefore Zelgius. And if he knew anything about Begnion's government, he'd know that only someone of supreme importance could have access to those weapons, someone like Sephiran.
Greil probably figured out a bit of it while Ike was draggingDefinitely the latter. Once more, this is based on the original possibility that Greil knew the properties of Ragnell, Alondite, and the Black Knight's armor. The more Greil knows about that, the greater the possibility that he is far wiser (or dumber) than we thought.
And the hell job did Volke do for Izuka?!
Whether a Daein or a Begnion blacksmith created the replacement armor, they would have to know who it was for, and therefore the nature of the Black Knight. If a Daein made it, they'd have to give it to someone, that someone being someone who happened to be someone who knew it was for ZelgiusEh? But the armor that was lost was the black Daeinite suit. Sure, they'd know he was alive, but I don't think that'd connect him to Begnion.
Er, Volke did a job for Bastian, which they discuss in the PoR A support. Bastian hired him to look into a cure for Renning, which led them to Izuka. Does that answer your question?
Considering that half your theory was that he knows... yeah? XD;Looks like you absolve everything by just saying there's no way he knows. Which is actually plausible now that I think of it your way.
Zelgius could have Sephiran pick the armor up or somethin'. Made by a Daeinite. Alternatively... well, Zelgius has lived a long time what with his heritage. Not entirely impossible he picked up some interesting crafts in that time.Whether a Daein or a Begnion blacksmith created the replacement armor, they would have to know who it was for, and therefore the nature of the Black Knight. If a Daein made it, they'd have to give it to someone, that someone being someone who happened to be someone who knew it was for Zelgius
Not even close. Check this out:
http://www.serenesforest.net/fe10/special3.html
Volke vs Izuka
Izuka: You! You're...
Volke: ...under a new contract. Good-bye, Izuka.
Izuka: Feral Ones! Kill him! Do it now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij0QP3TMPLg (sorry for the long video, it's right at the end when Volke kills him)
Aha, suggesting that Izuka hired Volke. Hmm.... Possible attempt at wit aside, I believe the implication here is that Volke's first contract with Bastian was to MEET Izuka for a cure, and then probably to APPREHEND Izuka. Now his NEW contract is to defeat/KILL Izuka.
Had Izuka hired Volke, that would've certainly been either a long time ago or a very odd contract. After all, Volke was preoccupied for some 10 years under Greil's contract, and then immediately went into Bastian's contract, and then Elincia's contract, under which Izuka was killed.
I think all this chatter qualifies as Ike triviaI think we hijacked the thread.
Actually, that's not an attempt at wit. Izuka says "you! you're...". It's clear he's on his way to revealing something about Volke he didn't realize he knew until that moment. I doubt he'd be surprised that an assassin was assassinating someone, even him. He expressed no surprise at anyone else trying to kill him, not even Bastian who also apprehended him.
Izuka recognized Volke in that moment as someone he knew from the past.
Since PoR, the writers have worked on making sure we knew that Volke was mysterious and willing to take on any kind of work. Also, Volke has been under two contracts from the day he was hired a by Ike to help defeat Daein till the end of RD.
Volkes contracts:
Before meeting Ike - Greil (and possibly others)
After meeting Ike - Greil, Greil Mercenaries
After revealing Greil's secret - Ike (in case he goes berserk), Greil Mercenaries
Daein defeated - Ike, Bastian
When they find Izuka a second time - Ike, Elincia/Bastian (Bastian can pay)
End of RD - No one? (medallion loses it's power)
It's obvious Volke primarily takes on jobs he likes (like killing Izuka) and increases the price for jobs he doesn't like (talking, for example). Yet it seems he's willing to do it for that price (no one ever pays). Who's to say Izuka didn't have him do something years and years ago? Possibly before Ashnard ascended to the crown. Izuka's never had money problems (it's probably how he impressed Begnion's senators enough to get that Rewarp staff, unless he developed one on his own).
It's hard to imagine that Izuka's surprise was due to Volke switching from Bastian's employee to *gasp* Bastian's employer's employee (or, heck, Bastian again if you use him to re-hire Volke).
The way I see it, Volke doesn't care too much about Laguz abuse, and he definitely doesn't care about Lord Renning's issues. The reason Volke says he's lowering his price because he hates Izuka is because he and Izuka have history and whatever happened way back when made Volke hate him.
It's quite possible, however, that he worked against Izuka in the past. In fact, I just had an epiphany: Volke worked for Greil to dig up some dirt on Izuka or something along those lines. He has history with Greil and Greil looked for him for that new contract because Greil trusted his work from experience. Whatever it was, Izuka had to have seen him, so either Volke was sloppy (doubtful) or it was part of the job (possibly changing the nature of the job).
I don't understand how you could dismiss that so easily (and with such a flawed explanation).
He had said that he'd been watching over Greil in the shadows for a long time. His sole contract then was Greil's, probably for some ludicrous price. He didn't have an assassination contract with the Greil Mercenaries so much as he did just hang around and collect some cash off of it. And, in a way, he was carrying out Greil's contract in the meantime. Also, after Daein is defeated, the medallion was sent with Leanne and Reyson, therefore prematurely terminating his contract with Ike -- that's why he gives you the 20k in the final chapter. So yeah, he only takes one *real* contract at a time.Before meeting Ike - Greil (and possibly others)
After meeting Ike - Greil, Greil Mercenaries
After revealing Greil's secret - Ike (in case he goes berserk), Greil Mercenaries
Daein defeated - Ike, Bastian
When they find Izuka a second time - Ike, Elincia/Bastian (Bastian can pay)
End of RD - No one? (medallion loses it's power)
Cop-out. Cooop-oooout.I think all this chatter qualifies as Ike trivia
That actually makes it more likely that it's the same armor damaged by Ragnell.Never seen so much covered spoilers in one topic. O_o
For the armor debate isn't it most likely the Black Knight got his armor back. When he first shows up in RD it has cuts all over it, since no one knew he was alive till Micaiah met him I doubt he was in many fight after the Mad King's War with it on, and I doubt anyone besides characters we know would have been skillful enough to put those scratches there(none of which knew he was alive unless they were on his side).
huh?He probably just warped back, armor and all(I think he would be wise enough to have warp powder for the way home as well).
Edit: Forgot to mention that it probably just lost it's blessing after all the attacks from the Ragnell. Also, we could just blame the developers for wanting to have him able to be killed when he is on your team(even if you have to go far out of your way to get him killed when you have him) and the developers just did not think up the plot for it.
Confirmed that it indeed says "Parisu". Kinda weird, the art reminds me more of RD than PoR. Even though he's donning his ranger outfit.Did you know Ike's name was originally Paris?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...ite/Pre/10.jpg (the Japanese for Ike says parisu, and Paris is the best you can change the name to)
Isn't that what I said, did I word it badly? Or am I reading your sentence wrong?That actually makes it more likely that it's the same armor damaged by Ragnell.
I was saying that the armor lost its blessing from the repeated attack from Ragnell. Like a shield in a game, after so many hits the shield will disappear and you are open to attacks.huh?
It might remind you of RD because the stats are under the health like in other FE's, PoR did not have that.Confirmed that it indeed says "Parisu". Kinda weird, the art reminds me more of RD than PoR. Even though he's donning his ranger outfit.
I was sort of repeating what you said. Halfway referencing Shirum's posts, in case you read them. He talks about the Japanese version of how the Black Knight survived compared to the American version's silence.Isn't that what I said, did I word it badly? Or am I reading your sentence wrong?
Oh, I didn't understand what you said at all the first time. Now I get it, kind of silly. Just because, as you said, he's pretty much already unkillable.I was saying that the armor lost its blessing from the repeated attack from Ragnell. Like a shield in a game, after so many hits the shield will disappear and you are open to attacks.
The other part is saying that the developers wanted him that way and just did not think of a reason for the plot. I wasn't too serious about it, probably would have been better if i didn't say it.
Actually, I was noticing the character shading and even the background. Yet his face and model are distinctly PoR (you can't see his eyes at all).It might remind you of RD because the stats are under the health like in other FE's, PoR did not have that.
Hah! There's no way to make marth look not-gay.Also, unrelated to Ike but FE6 had a 3D look before it became what we know it as.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/VincentASM/Site/old_klein.jpg
And look at Marth's look in the upcoming DS game.
http://serenesforest.net/fe1ds/img/040708.jpg
It looks strange.
so...¿Ike is not one of the good guys,then?
Fixed and agreed. For insults like this we usually either break your shield and Flashing eruption you or read you roll and f smash you, as someone that is new i suppose that we could give your pick of the preferred poison. And what's with mods being really strict lately, I tried trolling the the melee boards yesterday and they just closed it down without any chance for anger to take form.Did you know the Ike boards hates people who bring back old threads that should have died or been locked up?
That ain't Ike trivia!Did you guys know the black knight is really Bored? Its why he trolls the Ike boards
I SWEAR I thought about posting the same thing yesterday night, but i was too lazyRangerIke said:Did you know Ike is a homosexual?