Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

[jamlosingthegame]

Only FE games I ever played were those released here. I didn't care much for character deaths until I lost Florina, because when I found out I could get Fiora with her I was like: "Okay that's it, no more losing characters." And I like AWDoR's FoW mechanics, but we might not be seeing something similar for a while since it hasn't even been released in Japan (lolwut I know).

 

[Ussi]

Radiant dawn is difficult, but fairly doable without ragequits. If their goal was that then it was achieved, i didn't really ever ragequit except the one chapter in part 3 where

Spoiler

i was trying to get Ike to fight the black knight

but one of my main reasons for ragequits have been mitgated by bexp and the fix to leveling up and better growths for all characters in general. However, you will have trouble without a proper plan. And i know i would reset chapters for the sake of getting chests or stealing am item from the enemy..

FE7 HHM is filled with ragequits because of fail level ups, lolcrits, significantly more enemies, just dumb wyhern riders everywhere and weaker units in general..

 

[Teh Brettster]

I think the worst part about playing that game for me is:

I spend a bunch of time between missions assigning exp and weapons and THINKING about skills (but never assigning because I'm too scared of wasting them). And then I'm such a gold hoarder that I don't spend money on fancy weapons until it's close to endgame. Which makes each mission harder for me.
And I never fix this problem.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

You don't lose skills in RD though. Only drawback is removing a skill that someone originally starts with because they use up no space for them until removed.

 

[Teh Brettster]

You don't lose skills in RD though. Only drawback is removing a skill that someone originally starts with because they use up no space for them until removed.

You... don't?
I've been assuming? I've been too careful for no reason?
ಠ_ಠ

 

[Mozz]

never played a fire emblem game before... I'll have to ask my little cousin to play cause I think he might have one.

 

[AN(M)ist]

I remember playing PoR in emulator and in my first mission the game glitched when I entered the house with Ike to get an iron sword and I got like 3-4 iron swords. lol.

I ended up watching the game cause this awesome computer of mine couldn't keep up with the frame rate. D:

 

[Ussi]

Yea you don't lose skills in RD, forget how it is in PoR though..

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

You... don't?
I've been assuming? I've been too careful for no reason?
ಠ_ಠ

lol'd hard. Dang man, you missed out on half of the game right there. PoR does that, not RD.

 

[Foodies]

Yay Fire Emblem. Radiant Dawn is a bit hard in the beginning, but I don't remember it being too difficult after you move on from the Dawn Brigade. Then again I played on Normal Mode and I Battle Saved almost every turn. xD

I'm playing Thracia 776 at the moment, where even units that have maxed out almost all stats die x_x Masses of accurate ballista = painful. And I do what Brett does and use Iron weapons because I want to save the good equips for later lol...still deciding who I should give skillbooks to. It's also sort of annoying how the game doesn't calculate how much damage the enemy can do to you, but I got used to it after playing FE4.

 

[Max113]

Hey guys. I'm sure everyone here knows about the latest Metagame Minute video about anti-planking.

For those of you who haven't: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Joyf8KKdg4&feature=player_embedded

My question is: can Ike make use of this in any way, and if so, with what? I'm too lazy to do frame data math.

 

[san.]

Not guaranteed on MK, might be useful since it still outranges MK but I never tried. Against other characters we can dair pretty easily.

 

[Max113]

Not guaranteed on MK, might be useful since it still outranges MK but I never tried. Against other characters we can dair pretty easily.

Sweet, is Rob one of those characters?

 

[Ussi]

after the last hit of his uair, otherwise you'll just DI into his uair

 

[Ussi]

Battle save doesn't exist in hard mode. For a good reason! You basically took out rng screwage

Edit: lol posting on phone and laptop

 

[san.]

Why would we do that against Rob? Maybe his fair, but simple SH fair beats almost all of ROB's ledge tricks.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

I remember playing PoR in emulator and in my first mission the game glitched when I entered the house with Ike to get an iron sword and I got like 3-4 iron swords. lol.

IIRC there was a localization error or something. In my game Ike makes sure he's prepared and in Chapter 1 he comes with a full pack of Iron Swords.

I also use only iron weapons most of the time in FE because their low weight = higher attack speed. With that you most likely might be doing more damage with iron weapons cause of attacking twice than with steel weapons only attacking once.

 

[Ussi]

I use iron lances and axes usually, but with swords i use mainly steel. Which now bit me in the *** because i wantes to get S rank sword for florina but no weapon shop for iron weapons (forgot to buy one in chap 24) and so i was forced to S rank lance on her

Oh well.. Regal blade was 9 wt anyways...


I love how str now determines AS drop from a weapon instead of con. It makes more sense! And lets me use more girls :D (Mia with silver blade being twice her size<3)

Though its a bit bothersome with mages, bexp lets us max mage's str :D

PoR and RD are perfect for stats as stat cap actually serves its purpose by being reached~

RD would have been so much better if they only just added more enemies in hard mode, and actually changed some around just to be more annoying...



Also all of Rob's offensive options are indeed covered by fair (as is a majority of the cast).. So thats why Anti-plank helps us little.. Just Marth really is it valuable to know how to do

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Why save the good weapons....you get so many of them anyway.

 

[Senliten]

Why save the good weapons....you get so many of them anyway.

Cause it feels more badass to use a low end weapon over that fancy smancy named weaponry.

 

[Ussi]

I'll use reavers and target specific weapons...

But i need spammable weapons and steel/iron is cheap.


Gosh my HHM run has gotten so good thanks to how boss my Priscilla is! She's only level 20/9 and has 21 magic <3 and 21 speed <3 (22 skill and resist too) got her S in anima magic too :D
She + Guy rip through the enemy without getting hit~

Kent suuuucks he has 8 Ls for me -_-;;

 

[Heartstring]

Why would we do that against Rob? Maybe his fair, but simple SH fair beats almost all of ROB's ledge tricks.

this, as an ex rob main, i can safely say you have to make a mistake for him to be able to safely get back onstage. his airspeed is shocking (air accel anyway) and his second jump is rather large. this means that dropping and then jumping back on doesnt get him far and its easy to see from a mile away. his standard getup options are horrible too XD
fair him all day. if he airdodges into ground then shield, its likely he will dsmash XD

 

[Braxton2011]

Hi, Black Swordsmen, how are you today?

 

[Napos]

Us NM smashers had a tournament yesterday, I was doing fine against most characters, except for MK(what a shocker,right) anyways my main problem was getting gimped. How can I scare meta away?

 

[Zatchiel]

I don't think there's any real way to scare away an MK when Ike's offstage. I normally use Dair, since it has a pretty long lasting hitbox beneath it if I miss the spike. Normally keeps MK at bay for a while, but it has it's limits, still. I fast-fall it depending on how high up I am, and conserve my second jump in case of anything.

 

[san.]

Fair is the best, then an early aether after fastfall second. Sometimes it's safer to avoid contact and just QD back onstage (but charge it as little as possible)

Making sure MK doesn't reach you before aether's hitbox comes out, and making sure he can't quickly snap to the ledge easily are the hard parts.

 

[AN(M)ist]

These are the downsides of Aether in a nutshell:

1) It does not start immediately (including the SA frames), the range is purely vertical with little left-right adjustments, and Ike cannot auto-grab the ledge unless he starts descending.

2) When recovering low, people quickly snap the ledge when aether is about to start and then they do a timed getup so that Ike cannot spike them and neither can he grab the ledge, thus ending up a stock less.

3) When recovering onstage, post-lag is enough for people to come back onstage and punish Ike or if they are on stage, simply shield and punish.

Honestly, unless the ledge side of the stage is clear, I don't really see Ike getting a sureshot guaranteed safe recovery at all. Especially against MK. But I guess its better than nothing. And neither are all people perfect in their outputs.

 

[Heartstring]

try to time the aether so that the aether will cover the ledge, but you can also squeeze onstage in the case that they may grab the edge. best mk can do from there damage wise is a nair. which will send you across the stage. id rather take that then lose my stock

 

[Slaps]

if your trying to get back to aether try and predict an attack and airdodge(there isn't much else to do, you can use Fair/Dair just make sure you aren't too low to recover afterward) If you are aethering just try and use it so that you can land on the stage if he gets the ledge just watch out for shuttle loop stage spike mid aether.. Landing on stage does allow MK a free grab or whatever he wants to hop on stage with but it gives you another chance to DI/escape so its better than dying lol

 

[Heartstring]

i turn 18 in t-minus 10 minutes
i should get drunk...but i dislike alcohol and im uber heavyweight
fack

 

[Mr. Doom]

Ooh, nice. Happy birthday to ya. I forgot that 18 is the legal drinking age in some states. (Yes, I said states. I know what I'm talking about.)

 

[Heartstring]

and in the UK
shame i hate alcohol, barring illegal spirits XD

 

[Mr. Doom]

Uhh... I wrote something transparent in my last post. And I also used the wrong text color...

 

[Heartstring]

gah, i never notice invisible text unless the entire post is invisible XD
except on that post just then XD

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Back in Philly at last.

I'm starting to hate long car rides...I can't sleep in cars very well.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

I'm the opposite. If I'm tired enough I will sleep comfortably in a car, or any vehicle for that matter.

 

[Mr. Doom]

Even in a pick-up with no air-conditioning under the hot blazing sun?

GP, you should know by now that I like to use invisible text. ;p Like this.

 

[Ussi]

I can sleep anywhere as long as body wants too.. I'll make some position feel comfortable

 

[san.]

After going to a lot of tournaments, me too Ussi.

Ryo got 2nd at a recent FL tourney, so good job to him.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

Reply #12000. *salutes the flag of the United States of Ike*