Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

[Ussi]

Ayii, i'm skipping my afternoon class. But going to my lab cause labs are too important to miss :x

 

[AN(M)ist]

Eid Mubarak Ussi and bored,,, just came to college from prayer right now. I thought it'll be kinda cool wearing traditional clothes and going to classes and man how right I was. I'm getting so much more attention now lollz.

Edit: Just noticed Bored replaced his smuggy llama for DBZ, I thought it was kinda cool and (strangely enough) fitted his personality too.

 

[theeboredone]

^ I used to do that all the time in highschool (going back to class after prayers) and what not. In all honesty, not much to be shy or embarrassed about. Just be yourself. With that being said...Slaps, I know you're proud of your Shaun White hair, but please cut it.

 

[AN(M)ist]

^ u said it. I'll be wearing trad. clothes the whole day for each of my occasion now.

 

[Ussi]

i don't need attention, so i wear whatever i feel like. Traditional clothes are so comfortable though, love em.

 

[Nysyarc]

I stayed up late playing Domination in Nuketown all night.

I chuckled at this being followed by a day of religious prayer you wanted to attend. Out of context it sounds pretty bad, lol.

 

[Ussi]

Hey hey! That **** is so fun cause the map is tooo tiny. Grenades get so much kills, and its how i completed my
Multi kill grenade challenge for warlord pro

 

[Senliten]

Hate nuketown, the only place where skill does not matter and everyone goes nearly negative on their kdr, cept that one guy who gets the chopper gunner and thos campers not even trying for the obj. Makes them look oh so pro and like a real team with one guy having up to 10 caps and 7 defends where the rest are 1c-1d. <_<

 

[Ussi]

nuketown its impossible to camp, REQUIRES teamwork or an impressive solo army to capture a flag without dying to a grenade/nova gas or being shot by 3 people, least on flag B. Its fun for me, i dont care for kill/death ratio since i'm terrible at that anyways. Plus why have a statistic decide? I do a lot of suicidea xD, i suicide drop nova gas so much.

 

[Iofsauron]

I have a serious problem... I started playing WoW again.. and its good now >.<

 

[san.]

Boring discussion of generic grey/brown FPS..

Anyways, favorite jab cancels?

Mine is 1-(1-2)-1-1-2-3
(1-2) is a combat walk string. Once they pop up slightly, depending if they have aerials (where I would shield), i would do an extra jab 1 after the combat walk then finish. It's fun to vary jabs depending on the character and environment.

 

[theeboredone]

Well depends on the enemy...but normally I like 1, 1, finish assuming their DI is good.

Hm...I would like to know the list of enemies (assuming good DI) that it's just best to do jab combo straight up. I seem to have trouble with Lucario and Peach mains.

And yes...generic FPS is generic. Let me know when VR becomes a reality. See what I did thurrr?

 

[-RedX-]

I always do 1->1-2-3 out of instinct, I would have to think about it to do more jabs. lol
Against floaty characters with fast frontal aerials, I would finish the whole jab combo. I think jab->shield aerial->grab would work as a mixup. (maybe)

 

[san.]

Well depends on the enemy...but normally I like 1, 1, finish assuming their DI is good.

Hm...I would like to know the list of enemies (assuming good DI) that it's just best to do jab combo straight up. I seem to have trouble with Lucario and Peach mains.

And yes...generic FPS is generic. Let me know when VR becomes a reality. See what I did thurrr?

By generic I mean boring. I don't inherently like FPS so I need something good/exciting. I got modern warfare 1 near launch and never even started the campaign, only for when friends came over.


Really, only quick invincible upBs make you have to do the full jab combo. But shielding also gives its own reward.

Sonic you should probably always finish, because there's not too much reward for shielding his upB in comparison to Marth.

Others with good aerials out of our jab cancel, mixing it up between full jab combo, jab1->jab1 cancels, and shielding is usually the best choice, even on MK sometimes. Most people take a few jab combos before trying to aerial. When you see a higher popup than usual, just expect it.

Characters you're not comfortable grabbing or jabbing OoS, just finish and use the shield as a rare mixup.

We should always try to make sure to be 100% focused during jabs to cover whatever the opponent's trying to do.

 

[Teh Brettster]

I go completely random, but I may have a pattern I don't know about.
This is only when I remember not to instinctively go 1>1-2-3. I notice that there are lots of times when I (and most Ikes) don't use jabs to full potential.

I'm probably going to start trying to use jab-Ftilt when people pop up to try and get a feel for when it's a good idea.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

I always try for 1-1-2-3, with an extra 1 sometimes. I am now trying to attempt buffered bair every now and then and utilt. I remember hearing that floaty characters and those who can escape with upB we just go for the 1-2-3. Meh I need to play more.

Domination on Nuketown? Eww... On a regular TDM match I went 15:2 cause I was camping so **** hard on the second floor windows. Me and my bros do so well cause it's so **** small. We even spawned in front of the enemy. I only played it like 5 hours out of the 48 hour trial we were given cause we went to RIT for that weekend. Seriously, my brother's friends need to think before wantng to give us another one of those things.

 

[Ussi]

camping in nuketown is impossible. You must have been playing nubs that don't know teamwork

 

[jamlosingthegame]

lol probably were some noobs. I very rarely ever do as good as 15:2. In fact, my KD should be less than 1.

 

[Berserker Swordsman]

I prefer long strings of 1s and 2s, especially if I can eat the character's second jump in the process. Then when they finally think I'm done, run up for a grab =D Especially fun against spacies.

 

[Nysyarc]

It seems like 1-1-2-3 is a popular Jab string, I use it most frequently too, although I'm starting now to just use Jab 1 repeatedly until I notice them starting to SDI and then try to react based on where they go. Similar to just pummeling someone over and over at high % if they're not trying to mash out. I like just using Jab 1 -> Utilt on floaties because I've had them SDI away from Jab 3, while Utilt always seems to hit.

I should maybe try using combat walking more often although my habit is to Utilt when they get high enough above me for a combat walk to work.

 

[Ussi]

1-1-2-3 is the one i do most cause i mess up my timing on my third attempt to jab cancel :x

Though i will do jab 1 repeatably till i learn their habits to get out of jab if I'm on a good day with my tech skill.

 

[theeboredone]

****** fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxS8JA1iCkc

As far as the jab thing goes. It's not as much as I can keep jabbing them, it's just that most good opponents will get out after the third Jab 1. So I just tend to finish the combo. Better be safe then sorry.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

****** fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxS8JA1iCkc

Love that intro: "WE ARE SEX BOB-OMB AND WE'RE HERE TO MAKE YOU THINK ABOUT DEATH AND GET SAD AND STUFF!!!"

Personally, I found this fight to be least interesting, but it does look good aesthetically. In the comic, they send out robots before actually fighting him in person. And in the game, whenever they do one of their twin attacks, it tends to knock me hard enough to KO them when I rebound of the walls into them.

Also: <3 Scott Pilgrim. Movie got me interested in the game and series.

EDIT: Since you reminded me bored: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hplUiMa7lRA

 

[san.]

Surprising as it is, I still think Ike's jab still has quite a few things left to explore.

 

[theeboredone]

I still need to play that game...but that song should not be called Bollywood .-. Has nothing to do with it.

 

[Heartstring]

Surprising as it is, I still think Ike's jab still has quite a few things left to explore.

i'n not sure, i think we've pretty much explored the boundaries of it
although i do wonder if its possible to go jab>nair, or maybe two jabs, because i find nair always puts the opponent in a good kill setup position.
although it may be too slow to work

 

[Senliten]

1-2-1-2-1-2-3, only works best on those whom have terrible DI
For others, just shave off the first 1-2 and watch for a reaction to follow up while chasing

 

[Heartstring]

i go 1-1-2-3 pretty much all the time, if i happen to see the oponent being out of range of the second hit ill just hold A and let the auto-jab cancel shenanigans happen

 

[AN(M)ist]

man, sonic boards take social talk way above our level. they r like family over there. and i thought we social talk alot...

 

[Nysyarc]

I like doing 1-1-Fair if I think my opponent will spot dodge when I'm done the Jabs. Fair comes out in perfect time to punish a spot-dodge and if you retreat it, they can't really punish you for it. When I do that for the first time on someone they almost always either eat the Fair or run in to attempt to punish the Fair and eat more Jabs.

 

[Heartstring]

I like doing 1-1-Fair if I think my opponent will spot dodge when I'm done the Jabs. Fair comes out in perfect time to punish a spot-dodge and if you retreat it, they can't really punish you for it. When I do that for the first time on someone they almost always either eat the Fair or run in to attempt to punish the Fair and eat more Jabs.

this means a full-hop fair right?
also @anmist: we're pretty cold as a whole, the only other board ive been to that might be less comedic and soppy is the sheik boards, the r.o.b boards have practically given each other aids by now

 

[Nysyarc]

this means a full-hop fair right?

Depends on the height of the character. Against Ganondorf or characters of similar height you could probably pull off a retreating full-hop Fair while they're standing; but for shorter characters, a retreating SHFF Fair would work fine, not much difference in how soon you can end it when you consider how much longer you're in the air for a full-hop, despite the fact that it auto-cancels.

 

[Heartstring]

Depends on the height of the character. Against Ganondorf or characters of similar height you could probably pull off a retreating full-hop Fair while they're standing; but for shorter characters, a retreating SHFF Fair would work fine, not much difference in how soon you can end it when you consider how much longer you're in the air for a full-hop, despite the fact that it auto-cancels.

fair enough, anyone look at shff nair out of jabs?

 

[global-wolf]

man, sonic boards take social talk way above our level. they r like family over there. and i thought we social talk alot...

Ike boards are the most serious character board that I've read before. Most boards have a thread solely for social talk.

 

[Ussi]

man, sonic boards take social talk way above our level. they r like family over there. and i thought we social talk alot...

Lol, I'm part of the Pika boards so I know Ike boards are pretty serious when it comes to our "social thread". Its actually a general discussion with both Ike-related and non-Ike-related stuff.

I'd say we're the most active serious general discussion thread.

 

[YagamiLight]

I think it's good that we don't have separate social and game discussion threads, really.

If you have an Ike question, ask it. If you have a Brawl question, ask it. Want to ask for advice from some SUPER SERIOUS dudes? Go ahead. Want some cornflakes? Ask for them.

 

[Nysyarc]

^ What he said.

I like the way we do things here; we can talk about whatever, but at the same time we touch on a lot more serious topics about our character than many other character boards.

Speaking of which, I need to get back to working on the guide. I really wish I had more time, but I could try setting some time aside every second day or so to just work on it.

 

[jamlosingthegame]

I still need to play that game...but that song should not be called Bollywood .-. Has nothing to do with it.

I know. It;s just titled that way because it's Matthew Patel's boss theme. Fave's are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCREJfWEtz0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5CP8yS02mI

Anamanaguchi did this soundtrack so well. So much better to play with at least one other player.

lol @ us being serious. Ike talk is srs bsns

 

[san.]

I'm very serious in everything that I do.

Playing Rune Factory 3 for DS. It's pretty fun once you get far enough into the game to solve your money issues and build up a good partner.

So many games I'm getting hyped up for that I need to play. DKCR, Sonic Colors (wii), Golden Sun, 999 (DS adventure game hype!) and that's only for the next 2 or so weeks when I'm in thanksgiving break. There are probably more I forget too.

 

[Ussi]

When does Golden Sun come out?

Also, guide does need some work. Anyone wanna throw some ideas on what they want to see in the guide while Sharkie and I clean it up a bit.