I had no idea this was even possible!!!

[ShortFuse]

So I was playing a bunch of friendlies with my couple of friends of mine. After a while, my Marth gets really really good. My friends call it "Beast Mode". I start powershielding, frame counting, comboing, dashdashing, pivotsmashing etc like crazy. My brain just shuts off and I play instinctively.

Well, I got into "Beast Mode" with against one of my friend's Falco. I don't know why, but I just had the instinct to pull off this move, not knowing if it was even possible. Well, you'll see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2-8hHpW4Ls&fmt=18 (Youtube quality)

http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/Su...Nintendo_Wii/ShortFuse_Marth_vs__Falco/650996 (480p quality)

After that we just turned off the Wii.

I know you can do it Ganondorf, Falco, Wolf, Ness, Lucas and C.Falcon because those are like sex kicks, where you have a 2 or 3 frame window, but not Marth's. I didn't even think it was possible.

 

[Le_THieN]

Wow. This is news to me. Before this video, the only moves in Marth's arsenal that I knew for sure could override the Phantasm were a properly-spaced and charged Shield Breaker a tipped F-smash (I've only ever successfully done this once, with complete accidental timing). I'd always suspected you could D-air spike Falco out of the Phantasm - I constantly try when ever I ledge-hop back onto stage, and the D-air at least always connects - but sheesh!

 

[Pr0phetic]

woo... you need to utilize your beast mode from the start, this need more testing.

 

[Pearl Floatzel]

Yep. It just takes good timing. But it's incredibly fun.
I'm pretty sure you can to this with anyone with a good priority spike, so Ike, Zelda, etc. can do it too.
Nice playing.

 

[NJzFinest]

The timing for the last kill was nice.

But the Falco player was horrendous.

 

[Demenise]

Your beast mode consisted of constant Side B-ing. Also, that Falco was terrible, like he never played the game before and picked "Random". Not that your beast mode was bad, no, not at all.

But that spike at the end was O__O.

 

[Retroking2000]

marth went into beast mode because he eat some of falcos bread

 

[Rave925]

marth went into beast mode because he eat some of falcos bread

Lol, you were awesome man! by the way, we should brawl again sometime. Might just want to let up on the smashes, there were some points where you would just throw one out there.

 

[Rimmer]

Incredible Marth, man. That Falco was bad, though. Following up a grab with an Fsmash? lol.

By the way, if you think that spike was good, I've been Judgement 9 KO'd out of a Phantasm recovery. That was in mid move too.

 

[Amide]

I have got to give you props, that was amazing. But how the heck did you get that video quality?

 

[ShortFuse]

Well, don't focus on his gameplay really. The first stock he was trying to Phantasm Fake/Cancel which he why he kept coming back. It wasn't a REAL REAL match, but that ending was too epic to not share.

I record at 853x480 @ 60fps
You can watch is in full 60fps here:
http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/Super_Smash_Bros_Brawl/Nintendo_Wii/ShortFuse_Marth_vs_Falco/646566

but GameVee is messing up my aspect ratio, so it's being stretched vertical to 4:3

I use a Hauppauge HD PVR. It can record 480p, 720p and 1080i. Awesome stuff. I just need better software to record with. The software included has weird audio codecs. If i try to upload the raw .ts file to GameVee the audio will go off sync (if you notice the other GameVee files, they have 2 second audio desync). If I do a repackage (not a recode to lose quality), the aspect ratio won't come out correctly on GameVee. I'll have to keep working on getting something working right.

Oh, and the guy knew his gameplay was bad. (I doubt it was serious. He can chaingrab well enough to do dash=>uSmash which he didn't do) He asked me not to even say who it was. So it's "ShortFuse (Marth) vs Falco"

 

[Doggalina]

Dear god that quality is sexy.

 

[bludhoundz]

I'm fairly sure you can hit Falco out of the phantasm with pretty much any move. It just requires good timing (as the video shows).

Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[ShortFuse]

I accidently erased the GameVee one. When I get it up at 16:9 and synced audio I'll repost the link.

 

[1170]

lol. Excellent finish. I think i've managed to do that once, but the timing is nearly impossible to do consistently. And i know that you can fair him out of it too, and timing is (thankfully) much less of an issue there.

 

[Minato]

That was some awesome stuff you did there. I need to learn how to spike quickly like that.

 

[NJzFinest]

Falco shouldn't be able to chaingrab Marth.

Up B is too fast.

 

[GHNeko]

TBH, Spiking Falco out of his Phantasm is nothing new to me. D:

I mean, it was awesome, but not awe striking. Possibly because I've seen it before so the WOW factor is pretty much gone.

Also, you're marth was nice, but was better in the later half of the video. I laughed when he kept using the Phantasm and kept landing right infront of you. I know you must of killed your Fsmash with decay, but how can you know take that opportunity!?

Also, Bandwagon: Falco sux'd.

 

[eskimo bob]

even though the falco was (really) bad and this was known (by me at least) you seem to have taught some people something new. nice timing there, hehe.

 

[Pierce7d]

EH, Falco didn't play well, BOTH PLAYERS SPAMMED Fsmash too much. Marth was very good, though needs to use more of his moveset.

And most of Marth's moves can hit Falco outta Phantasm, with correct timing. I prefer Dolphin Slash personally.

 

[ShortFuse]

Don't judge the quality of the match. I just really fB spammed the whole match. It wasn't serious. I'm just talking about the spike at the end.

 

[Pierce7d]

Don't judge the quality of the match. I just really fB spammed the whole match. It wasn't serious. I'm just talking about the spike at the end.

Well, good timing, very sexy, lol

 

[ShortFuse]

480P version UP!

http://www.gamevee.com/viewVideo/Su...Nintendo_Wii/ShortFuse_Marth_vs__Falco/650996

 

[ZHMT]

Dair spike at the end was awesome, nice work. Marth was okay, (you said dont take it serious.) But the ending was just smexy.

 

[jinofcoolnes]

good video

but the falco player suffers form what alot of lowlvl falco suffer form.

they keep trying to chain grab.

but nice spike at the end.

 

[Hype]

nice spike at the end!

 

[Phoenix~Lament]

I did the exact same thing when I was playing falco against my friend's MK when he just started learning MK, and used cloak to recover o__x

Annnnd, I never knew Marth can do that too. So, props.

 

[Nibbity]

haha ah yes. I ended up doing the same with Yoshi. Very nice timing to be able to do that, I wonder if someone will practice enough to be able to do it on command.

 

[ChK]

nice spike fo sho ... was known for awhile though.. where you been haha

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Falco shouldn't be able to chaingrab Marth.

Up B is too fast.

QFT, but only because it it has invincibility frames, not because of the speed.

And that Meteor Smash was great.

 

[DanGR]

8:38- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IFithwBliE

Is that what y'all are droolin' over?

Edit: no offense

 

[person701]

Yes the Falco wasn't of the best, but your Marth is beastly. I've been able to pull such an ending off to an extent; ledge hopped spike on Wolf's sideB.

I've fallen in love with the vid quality ._. It's amazing...

 

[ShortFuse]

If you watch Falco's fB frame data (from right to left) it works like this

EEEE-------S

S= Start
E =Ending

You can't hit Falco during the "hyphens". Check it out on GameVee's site and you'll see it better since that's running at 60fps. I counted the frames.

Start = 8 Frames
Ending = 10+ frames

On exactly frame 9, he jumps to

EEEE-------S
----^-
HERE

That's where you can hit Falco. If you try to do it before he reaches there (like on the hyphens) all you'll do it clash the hit. Very neat and pretty useful for all characters.

 

[BacklashMarth]

Um, not to belittle ur accomplishment (epic spikes pwn) but ive done this a few times b4. The thing i havent managed to do was that spike to the ledge where falco hit the stage then somehow popped off of the ground and kept doing down. That my friend is what legends are made of. In retrospect, that falco was bound to fail vs. marth from the start.

 

[VietGeek]

Um, not to belittle ur accomplishment (epic spikes pwn) but ive done this a few times b4. The thing i havent managed to do was that spike to the ledge where falco hit the stage then somehow popped off of the ground and kept doing down. That my friend is what legends are made of. In retrospect, that falco was bound to fail vs. marth from the start.

Meh, the Falco probably doesn't use the C-stick for dash attack and buffered in a Fsmash out of Dthrow instead of the dash attack to Usmash combo.

ShortFuse, show us a serious match of you two. I think you did an injustice to your friend there ;P

Also, any reason why you happen to only show up on spike-related topics Backlash?

 

[BacklashMarth]

Um, r u stalking me now? And no, i have clearly posted on one about marths FS just today. And also, that thread with the G gundam refference wasnt a spike thread either.

 

[VietGeek]

Lolwut? I just replied to these post because they were the most recent ones today. <_<

I just noticed you aren't here that much anymore unless a spike-related thread is up. Remember I've been here longer than you so I notice subconsciously that you've been away for a while.

Hell, if I stalk someone, they should be grateful. <_<

 

[Steel]

Vietgeek you are awesome.

 

[ChaosKnight]

yawn boring thread imo