Blaze101
Smash Rookie
im either a hard marth or a meidium marth
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How to get way better with Marth
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Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
I finally got my cast off for my left hand. Now i just need to wait another two weeks for my right hand and i can play!
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
Vids or it didn't happen.
Lol jk, but seriously when you do things like that its intimidating, no one asked you to state what level you are, this isn't a competition (well outside of tourneys), but now that you did, you might have to back it up. But hey what do i know, you can be very good, post count dont mean a thang.
chaos11011
Smash Lord
he is my bro he is pretty good and if i can find my camera ill record a battle me vs him
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
Ok makes since, the better he is the better the vid gets. I like seeing new Marth's =]
Albert.
Smash Master
BUMP
I really like this thread much more then the spam threads
who agrees?
I really like this thread much more then the spam threads
who agrees?
Metal Reeper
Smash Champion
Nice guide ;]
Always loved sword dancing once then f-air and mixin it up.
Always loved sword dancing once then f-air and mixin it up.
smashkng
Smash Lord
Which attacks of Marth are disjointed? Has the disjointed hitbox the power of the tip?
BBoyindo
Smash Ace
I don't think you know what disjoint is.
A disjointed hitbox is a hitbox that extends outside your hurtbox, simply a hitbox with no hurtbox. Let's see, what characters' moves are disjointed then? Moves that use swords, hammers, snake's attacks and those things. Does Marth use a sword? Yes. With what moves? Not with grab.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
or Aura.
Oh yeah, Bowser ftilt has been annoying me so much, such a nasty punisher from underneath if he can get in your landing zone, just the fact that it outranges fair by a large margin is not nice T.T
I agree.
smashkng
Smash Lord
I knew what disjointed was, you was wrong. Do you mean all of Marth's attacks are disjointed? This is the question.
BBoyindo
Smash Ace
Swords are disjointed. I'll let you figure out the rest by yourself.
bow master1
Smash Apprentice
hey thanks 4 the 411(lol)just kiddin thanks 4 the info.itll really help in future brawls.
smashkng
Smash Lord
If Marth couldn't infinite Ness/Lucas, would Marth still **** them?
of course he would.
are you kidding ? lol
btw i've been trying to implement the full hop fair into my playstyle for about a week now, so yeah when it gets blocked i am never punished but when it's not i can't follow up and it's basically giving the opponent the momentum... what do you usually do after that ?
btw i've been trying to implement the full hop fair into my playstyle for about a week now, so yeah when it gets blocked i am never punished but when it's not i can't follow up and it's basically giving the opponent the momentum... what do you usually do after that ?
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
sure he does. He has a safe kill move for one thing, and he just totally does nasty things to the mother/Earthbound crew.
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
Running behind your opponent to reverse grab from the other side isn't a good idea. More times then none you'll get hit or you won't even go fully behind them resulting in you getting hit again.
Think of it as a move used to destroy their options when landing or air dodging, it's not an offensive move.
Think of it as a move used to destroy their options when landing or air dodging, it's not an offensive move.
phi1ny3
Not the Mama
land behind -> pivot grab is very good.
_Kadaj_
Smash Hero
Yeah but that's different tho, and you don't want to get predictable with that either. Good players are gonna catch on to that really quickly.
∫unk
Smash Master
hey good guide whoever wrote this
but the game isn't that complicated
but the game isn't that complicated
rofljont
Smash Apprentice
i <3 junkinthetrunks marth guide lol
De4th-4ng3l
Smash Rookie
thx for the guide, its nice and helpful
Chileno4Live
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I have a problem with mixing up things. I usually stick to 1 pattern which kills me a lot. I can't really change my pattern that easily, aswell as mixing up is very difficult for me. Does any1 have advice on this?
Tari
Smash Apprentice
Do what I'm doing.. trying to figure out different things that will work in certain situations. Then just know your options and go with the flow?
I have this problem as well. This is where friendlies come in handy. Just try out different things that you may have read/seen, see what works and where it works well. Friendlies really are for you to experiment with your character as well as your opponent in seeing how they normally react in a given situation.
∫unk
Smash Master
Go to training mode. Have your opponent set to Snake level 9.
Practice tipping all your approaching. If you didn't tip assume you were unsafe. Practice gimping/spiking. Practice waiting for the air dodge then doing a tipped aerial. Practice hitting with the tip of n-air, b-air while constantly moving around (harder to use but extremely valuable kill moves). If you want to practice grab releases change the computer to Wario or Metaknight to learn the timing.
Your approach options are all of marths moves that don't have heavy lag, which includes:
1) tipped f-air
2) untipped f-air (cross over). *
3) tipped d-tilt *
4) tipped db1
5) tipped jab
6) pivot grab
7) shield grab
8) tipped shieldbreaker (start in the air) *
*only used this for mostly grounded characters
For practice, just cycle through all of those until you understand the relative safety of each one. Remember though, depending on the match up some of these options are completely unviable (ex. crossing over wario).
Honestly, if you space to tip all your f-airs you will already be very very hard to deal with. Remember with tipped f-air you have various spacing on this depending on short hop/full hop, rise/fall/fastfalled, going forward/backward. In general you should try to land as far away from the opponent as possible after you hit them with a tipped f-air.
Figure out your outs for bad/mediocre/good spacing (if powershielded). This can be jumping, ds, jab, roll away , spot dodge, continuing your db combo... if you know you had bad spacing never just stand there... but don't panic and create a bad defensive habit either (ex. spot dodging/shielding after every poorly spaced move)
Example of training mode training: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8kltZKlMc
I cannot replicate that with Metaknight even though I know exactly what happened. M2K has a better understanding of spacing than I do. You can practice similarly with Marth.
It's not going to win you any tournies but it'll make you as good as you can be for playing by yourself.
Maybe this post should have been a seperate thread lol what do you guys think?
Practice tipping all your approaching. If you didn't tip assume you were unsafe. Practice gimping/spiking. Practice waiting for the air dodge then doing a tipped aerial. Practice hitting with the tip of n-air, b-air while constantly moving around (harder to use but extremely valuable kill moves). If you want to practice grab releases change the computer to Wario or Metaknight to learn the timing.
Your approach options are all of marths moves that don't have heavy lag, which includes:
1) tipped f-air
2) untipped f-air (cross over). *
3) tipped d-tilt *
4) tipped db1
5) tipped jab
6) pivot grab
7) shield grab
8) tipped shieldbreaker (start in the air) *
*only used this for mostly grounded characters
For practice, just cycle through all of those until you understand the relative safety of each one. Remember though, depending on the match up some of these options are completely unviable (ex. crossing over wario).
Honestly, if you space to tip all your f-airs you will already be very very hard to deal with. Remember with tipped f-air you have various spacing on this depending on short hop/full hop, rise/fall/fastfalled, going forward/backward. In general you should try to land as far away from the opponent as possible after you hit them with a tipped f-air.
Figure out your outs for bad/mediocre/good spacing (if powershielded). This can be jumping, ds, jab, roll away , spot dodge, continuing your db combo... if you know you had bad spacing never just stand there... but don't panic and create a bad defensive habit either (ex. spot dodging/shielding after every poorly spaced move)
Example of training mode training: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8kltZKlMc
I cannot replicate that with Metaknight even though I know exactly what happened. M2K has a better understanding of spacing than I do. You can practice similarly with Marth.
It's not going to win you any tournies but it'll make you as good as you can be for playing by yourself.
Maybe this post should have been a seperate thread lol what do you guys think?
feardragon64
Smash Champion
^Good advice for people who always complain about not having anyone to play against.
There's always something to do.
There's always something to do.
Albert.
Smash Master
through junks training method I just realized that I've been getting lots of "10%"s on Fairs instead of the good 13%
I suck at this game LOL
I suck at this game LOL
C.box
Smash Journeyman
B reversal to escape juggle traps? It gets me out of alot of things. :/
Roxas M
Smash Master
good thread. i wish more marth mains would read this. i had to learn most of this stuff on my own.
Pr0phetic
Dodge the bullets!
That method of training is actually very good. My Fair spacing seems pretty good, but I have to work on moving Bairs and such, I actually used retreating Bair alot yesterday =P
SDR
Smash Rookie
* Helpful thread *
Albert.
Smash Master
I approve of this bump^^^^
This guide has helped me tons, along with the 1p practicing modes. It made me 
I'm finding it a lot harder for me to get tipped aerials than tipped fsmashes, must keep working on this!
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I'm finding it a lot harder for me to get tipped aerials than tipped fsmashes, must keep working on this!
Anonymous24
Smash Apprentice
Great Thread and information. This will greatly helps those in need of improving marth. I may keep a few of this information with me. (Im pretty good with marth but theres always room for improvement)
light-zion
Smash Cadet
wat do u mean by a setup?
