How do I do a Barrel Roll? ~ Fox Q&A (Check the OP)

[F A N G]

Do you guys have a hitbox thread/video/pictures?

 

[Kuares]

No .

 

[Xcallion]

assuming i've already read the basic guide, what would i do/learn first in order to attain a passable fox?

 

[C.R.Z]

assuming i've already read the basic guide, what would i do/learn first in order to attain a passable fox?

zoning and reading.probably the most important factors when playing as fox. autocancels and buffering is a close second.both are pretty much the staples.

 

[zero212]

zoning and reading.probably the most important factors when playing as fox. autocancels and buffering is a close second.both are pretty much the staples.

I think what also matters a lot as a decent fox player never get predictable.(always use diffrent combo's not just set combo's in your head so my advice here is react to the situation) if you do you get punished for like 90 % of the time. if i'm wrong just correct me.

 

[C.R.Z]

I think what also matters a lot as a decent fox player never get predictable.(always use diffrent combo's not just set combo's in your head so my advice here is react to the situation) if you do you get punished for like 90 % of the time. if i'm wrong just correct me.

no your right, its just mixups can fall into the category of reading. but its cool, you gave more of an explanation

 

[FrankTheFoot]

Auto Sweet Spot Glitch

I was wondering if this was widely known or not. When you auto sweet spot a ledge with Fox's Side-B, if you then choose to fall off of the ledge, you will then have considerably less aerial mobility until you choose to jump again or use any move. It only affects certain character's moves. Is this common knowledge?

 

[PEACE7]

How do I shorthop triple laser?

 

[izic]

How do I shorthop triple laser?

There's a couple of ways to do it but setting L to jump and leaving B at special works the best for me. To SHTL, press L and then immediately tap b afterwards.

You could also try setting X to jump and Y to special if the above method doesn't work that well for you.

 

[PEACE7]

Do i have to change my controls?

 

[C.R.Z]

Do i have to change my controls?

no, you can slide your thumb from Y to B, thats what i do

 

[PEACE7]

So shorthop and y to b 3 times right?

 

[C.R.Z]

short hop with Y

 

[Conviction]

We have a FAQ for a reason...

I'm a little sad that nothing new or innovative gets asked anymore or looked into anymore.

 

[PEACE7]

Alright thanks C.R.Z

 

[zero212]

Does anyone know how to SHTL wavebounce properly to the right? i can do it but only to the left since i also use Y+B to SHTL and my thumb can't reach the other side of the C-stick when i try to wavebounce SHTL.

 

[crifer]

Does anyone know how to SHTL wavebounce properly to the right? i can do it but only to the left since i also use Y+B to SHTL and my thumb can't reach the other side of the C-stick when i try to wavebounce SHTL.

I simply reverse it with the analog stick.

 

[Reizilla]

So, where do I start?

 

[Conviction]

Picking Fox on the character select screen.

 

[Reizilla]

And then? Techs, and whatnot? Is Shtl really that important? What about doubles?

 

[Conviction]

You could just check all the stickied threads for starts, but if you have any more specific questions that threads (or TKD's Thread) can't answer I'll be glad to help.

 

[Kuro~]

How does fox do vs Wario, gaw, marth, dedede?

 

[crifer]

How does fox do vs Wario, gaw, marth, dedede?

Wario: idk. weird MU. I think it´s slightly in wario´s favor, could be that you need to run away a lot :D

GaW: Fox favor, maybe 60:40.

Marth: slightly for marth.

dedede: even or slightly for fox.

all imo.

 

[Kuro~]

Thanks. Can i get some more opinions?

Use to use fox when i first started out. Thinking about coming back to him after giving it some thought. I like helping the underdogs. Fox shouldn't be C tier.


Edit: I'd like to add peach to that list. What's the common consensus there?

 

[M@v]

Vs Toon link's back air you do......

 

[Conviction]

Wario: idk. weird MU. I think it´s slightly in wario´s favor, could be that you need to run away a lot :D

GaW: Fox favor, maybe 60:40.

Marth: slightly for marth.

dedede: even or slightly for fox.

all imo.

IMO

GnW ratio is same as your's

Marth is even

DDD is a slight adv.

Thanks. Can i get some more opinions?

Use to use fox when i first started out. Thinking about coming back to him after giving it some thought. I like helping the underdogs. Fox shouldn't be C tier.


Edit: I'd like to add peach to that list. What's the common consensus there?

Peach is basically dead even that MU is really fun. I'm very confident on this one after playing 2Link and the peach in my state I can play regularly Hero.

Vs Toon link's back air you do......

Tsk tsk M@v...this is what Project A.R.W.I.N.G is for...

Toon Link Punishment
__________________________________________________

- Rising Nair is not shieldgrabbable but OoS Usmashable, if retreated unshield and dash Usmash/attack, on whiff SH Fair, Usmash/Dash Usmash, Dash attack

- Rising Bair is unpunishable on whiff dash Usmash/attack, however falling bair is punishable, unshield Dash attack, Usmash

- Uair is something you will not encounter while grounded

- Dair is something you will not ecounter while grounded

- Dtilt is unpunishable on whiff and block but if predicted can be Dair/Nair/Bair'd over

- Ftilt on block is punishable unshield dash Usmash/attack, on whiff the punishments are the same

- All jabs are punishable, OoS Usmash, OoS Nair, OoS Dair on Jab 3
__________________________________________________ ________________________

 

[Kuro~]

Hmm brb with a few more. Btw, i'm not stupid. I went to most of the matchup discussions on these and it was kinda tiring and weren't really done. Yall should make a table or list in the OP then have links to discussions below.




Edit: Ok last three ++

 

[Conviction]

Lol no one is calling you stupid homie I enjoy helping people.

Eh I used to feel TL was Fox's adv. but after recently playing Flea I feel it even now.

I think Oli might be a disadv. I'm not too entirely sure though, I've only played against Oli once and didn't have any MU exp. but I feel I think if I were to play Scatt's Oli again I would win I've been practicing some anti-oli things I'd share but I want to test it against him. Don't want to spread mal-informed info.

Here is some vids of me vs. TL and Oli. Just a fair warning my ratios on MU ratios will swing on how I feel after a couple of sets or if I find a new way to work around things and breakdown character traits.

Iblis vs. Flea
Round 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpsV7B_rbbo
Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-BHqGv0x68&feature=related
Round 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRO4I9TSCzg&feature=related

Iblis vs. Scatt
Round 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoef58OSPOI
Round 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6U6kcv8mmc&feature=related
Round 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij_SNo-sg98&feature=related

LOL those textures in my oli vids are ugly why did I like those??

I hope this helps.

Slick editing >.> I don't have any diddy vids but atm I really can't comment on the Diddy MU's ratio as I feel I just got the hang of it, I'll try to go to BigLou's house this week and I'll give you my opinion then.

 

[Kuro~]

Mmk. Ik no1 was saying it. I just know people hate when people ask stuff w/o checking threads

As of now things are looking good for it. I always enjoyed using him. I just randomly dropped for...i can't remember now o.o. Might have another person to talk to around here ^_^

which is good...cuz this place seems dead o.o

Time to spend a month learning the character through videos


Lol seriously, that's how i do initial learning b4 i play the character extensively. It works for me. YAY sharingan eye

 

[C.R.Z]

Wario: 45:55

GaW: 60:40

Marth: 50:50

dedede : 55:45

peach: 50:50

diddy: 50:50

tlink: 55:45

olimar: 50:50

imo ofcourse

 

[Kuro~]

Thanks. They pretty much align with the others as well haha.

 

[Conviction]

haha I'm surprised there aren't big gaps.

 

[M@v]

Yeah I asked because Kingtoon and I were playing a ton of friendlies this weekend, and toon's back air was annoying the **** out of me, lol.

 

[Conviction]

I got you dog

 

[MJG]

Toon Link vs Fox is even. Zeton and I probably play this MU more frequently than any other TL or Fox mains (considering the fact that he is a crew-mate and we play at every other tourney).

 

[Fuujin]

Fox sucks.

 

[Two-Ell]

Fox is annoying D:, I don't have fun playing against him lol. I play a ton of them in FL T.T

ggs from back then though Iblis x3

 

[Conviction]

Fox is annoying D:, I don't have fun playing against him lol. I play a ton of them in FL T.T

ggs from back then though Iblis x3

The mu is fun what you talking bout willis? Lol but yeah ggs homie come back soon and how many foxes are in FL besides Trump?

 

[Two-Ell]

lol for you, he's a pain to me. Running around and lasering D:

There are some people like Kuro that playing him a bit. I know there was a couple randoms that mained him here in SFL. There's one in Orlando I play with whenever I go up there. His tag is Jazz.

 

[Conviction]

Word cause when we played it seemed like you've played many Foxes before.