Houston Thread - No HOBOs and no WHOBOs. What do we do now??????????????????????????????????????????

[GHNeko]

Oh. OH. OH NO YOU DIDNT. ITS ON NOW.

BEST 3 OUT 5. MARTH DITTO MM IN B+.

LOSER COUGHS UP 5$ AND BUYS THE WINNER A SODA.

COME ON SUUN. ANTI UP. LETS GO. LETS GO.

It. Is. GO. TIME. SON.

Hobo 16 HYPPEEEEE!!!

 

[Suspect]

so i heard greyfox's snoring was yalls alarm clock

way to save electricity for our economy

 

[Popertop]

an alarm clock that didn't let us sleep at all.
like honestly

 

[GHNeko]

Get *****. rofl.

 

[CY]

GHneko who are you? were you that asian kid who was at ozz's house that one time?

 

[Hylian]

Santi is right, there is WAY too much complaining.

Seriously, it's like you guys are LOOKING for something to complain about.

Did planking effect any of the top 5 at Whobo?

No?

Top 7?

No?

Top 10?

No?


Wow. Seriously, work on getting better at this game before you complain about something. No one likes to hear complaining, and much more productive talk could be there instead. Seriously, no one is even asking people advice on ways to deal with it, just straight up complaining.

Sorry if I sound like a ****, just trying to make a point. I mean Xyro already put a ledge limit on and people are still complaining.

Chill out guys. Worrying about certain tactics or characters rather then just practicing and asking for advice isn't going to progress your game at all.


Also, wtf is with all this "Oh my god I can't believe you play MK blah blah" stuff? Seriously, pointless drama needs to stop. No reason to have bad blood with people.

I had an amazing time at whobo. I don't think I've ever had more fun at a tournament. That's all I've been thinking about, and it's astounding to see others complaining the day after the tournament.

I'm going on and on so I'm going to stop now lol.

 

[Popertop]

nah he's the black guy that was screaming about brawl plus

 

[GHNeko]

nah he's the black guy that was screaming about brawl plus

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I dont think I was screaming...Not alot anyways. I mean, I got hyped and spread hype. That's what you do at with smash. <_>

 

[gunterrsmash01]

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I dont think I was screaming...Not alot anyways. I mean, I got hyped and spread hype. That's what you do at with smash. <_>

No im pretty sure i heard a LOUD *** scream during grand finals and i looked over and it was just you playing brawl+ ............ then i facepalmed lol. man that was a LOUD scream i thought it was something huge

 

[GHNeko]

It was huge. Some GOOD **** happened at my set up. Just because no one real big wasnt playing doesnt mean some epic **** doesnt go down.

 

[UltimateRazer]

Hylian, I think gnes could of made top 10 but was planked.

 

[Xyro77]

Ozz: WE ALL KNOW why you are picking up metaknight. its to win more. Falco was "boring" before and you went marth cause he "fit your style" and guess what? Your *** got beat at the next few events and you went back to falco cause you learned marth actually requires MUCH more skill to win with. So now you want to go metaknght cause he requires ALOT less skill to win with than even falco. your doing nothing new and it people like you that will get falco banned(and i WILL throw all this in everybodies face when meta is banned)

Example 1: poptop vs junk in the trunk. Yes he ledge stalled/plainked but thats the point. He can just pick up metaknight and do that and win. Its a PERFECT example of what people are doing ALL the time. pick up metaknight=instantly do better than with your main.

Example 2: College station and Dphat. I love all these guys( i really do) but the TRUTH is: They picked up metaknight cause its EASIER to win. Notice how light had to go meta to beat me? the examples are every where.

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After Genisis/evo, if meta isnt banned, I can PROMISE YOU metaknight will be banned in Houston. Ive JOKED and THOUGHT about it MANY MANY times in the past and ive always held back because of people like infinity/Dojo(who i dont want to take away his ONLY char) but they now have 2ndaries. Plus, Hobo 11(before brawl was a year old) and World Hobo(after brawl is a year old) are just flat out the ABSOLUTE best examples of brawl being dominated by metas. Its only going to get worse(and i said this before and i was proven right).


oh one other thing!!!!!!!! For those of you that PLAYED MELEE or at least knew the matchups.

in melee an average decent sized/skilled tourney saw:

falcon/falco/marth/sheik/fox/peach

all of these characters COUNTERED each other and if not they could CP levels that made the match up a COUNTER. or at least produce a decent disadvantage to one of the chars.



In brawl we USUALLY see this:

meta/snake/falco/ddd/diddy/gw/rob

from snake all the way to rob you can all counter each other and if they dont you can use a CP level to make it a counter or at least produce a decent disadvantage to one of the chars.

now throw in metaknight. No matter the stage or char, he still has an advanatge or a "50/50" match up. So basiclly by allowing meta knight you are BREAKING the counter pick system.

 

[Hylian]

Um, in melee marth won every MLG save for like the few PC Chris won. In fact, Marth won more tournaments in melee then MK has in brawl.

Ankoku was doing a dominance rating for MK from all the tournament results and it was around 20-30%. That's a lot. He did it for melee Marth and Marth was at over 60% IIRC.

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You have to realize at Whobo the best players mained MK. We didn't have any representation from the other best character mains(Diddy- ADHD/Ninjalink, Snake- Ally, Various- Azen, Falco- DEHF/SK92) ..the list goes on. Almost none of the top players for other characters were at this tournament. What did you think the results were going to look like?

 

[gunterrsmash01]

well it proves that the metaknight mains will continue to stay on top and despite what people say, they cant really be beaten unless its another metaknight. or very special cases like anthers unique pika or something.

 

[Le_THieN]

the important thing.... remember we are mutha ****in Texas. we go hard and are by far the most legit region in the region.

LOL

Catch-phrase of the season?

My words are golden when I've been drinking.

Workin' on the most epic non-shoutout shoutouts. You all will love it. Or not.

 

[Xyro77]

Um, in melee marth won every MLG save for like the few PC Chris won. In fact, Marth won more tournaments in melee then MK has in brawl.

Ankoku was doing a dominance rating for MK from all the tournament results and it was around 20-30%. That's a lot. He did it for melee Marth and Marth was at over 60% IIRC.

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You have to realize at Whobo the best players mained MK. We didn't have any representation from the other best character mains(Diddy- ADHD/Ninjalink, Snake- Ally, Various- Azen, Falco- DEHF/SK92) ..the list goes on. Almost none of the top players for other characters were at this tournament. What did you think the results were going to look like?

im not sure if that was aimed at me but what i said still stands. meta breaks the CP system.


PS: brawl has been out for only 1 year. melee has been out for 7+ years.

 

[mikeHAZE]

ban meta



xyro you're lame for not going to drink station today :[

 

[GHNeko]

lol @ mike

EDIT: Where'd you pop out from?

 

[UltimateRazer]

California. SoCal to be exact. mikehaze is legit :]

DI a tipper at 130% anyone?

 

[PhantomX]

MikeHaze loves TX, this is his new home.

 

[GHNeko]

How long is Mike gonna be in TX, I thought he went back to SoCal already.

 

[The Real Inferno]

*perches in Houston topic* Ooo Meta Knight ban discussion this should be fun. I didn't leave shout outs in the WHOBO thread. I probably won't, the thread kinda got gay after Inui showed up again.

Hylian: Why am I not moderator of the Random Forums yet?....WHY ARE THERE NO RANDOM FORUMS?!

Xyro: The Real Inferno is my constant name for now, so you can be assured you won't be getting confused by my changing it all the time anymore. ould you believe Dugfinn and Inui didn't believe I'm a good TO? I run an entire circuit, it's kinda insulting

Meta Knight: Man, I played that guy, he's so ****ing good at this game. Seriously though. I don't support a ban of the character but there's a serious issue with the best players picking him up to the point of redundancy. I can't vouch for brokeness but I -can- say what he does is make the game a lot less interesting as a whole. Meta Knight, DDD and Falco together make it literally impossible for much of the cast to even be playable. It's a sad state of affairs for the game.

As for countering Meta Knight, I've seen very little empirical evidence to swerve me into believing any character actually does. Diddy does the best of about everyone, but I find Snake to be way to easy to kill with Meta. The camping is quite easy to overcome with any skill and once he's off stage, he's in trouble. I dunno, take it as you will.

 

[PhantomX]

Wario does amazing against Metaknight. He and Diddy are probably the hardest matches for MK. Snake is super hard, but only until MKs learn to gimp the hell out of them.

 

[Xyro77]

I had an amazing time at whobo. I don't think I've ever had more fun at a tournament.

really? it was THAT good?!?!?!?!?! THANK YOU!

i just recorded the WORLD HOBO results on the front page. lets venture on to HOBO 16!!!!!!

 

[The Real Inferno]

Wario does amazing against Metaknight. He and Diddy are probably the hardest matches for MK. Snake is super hard, but only until MKs learn to gimp the hell out of them.

I wish we had Wario's here. The only Wario of any decent skill in this whole ****ing region is Kit in Missouri, and hes only so-so. The Wario players in Texas easily gave us Kansans the worst trouble, he's just so weird. I don't personally have as much trouble with Diddy when using Meta as I used to. The more I get used to the banana traps, the better I get at avoiding them and turning it against him. His pressure game is amazing though and against most players I find a Diddy can corner them into making verybad mistakes no matter which character they are using.

 

[mikeHAZE]

How long is Mike gonna be in TX, I thought he went back to SoCal already.

my flight is at 8

 

[Kit Cal-N]

The only Wario of any decent skill in this whole ****ing region is Kit in Missouri, and hes only so-so.

But as long as I'm the only, I'm still the best.

 

[Dingding123]

im not sure if that was aimed at me but what i said still stands. meta breaks the CP system.

No, he doesn't.

A typical scenario of a set: 1st match: main vs main. 2nd match: main vs MK. 3rd match: anti-MK alt or MK vs MK.

Also:
1st match: main vs MK. 2nd match: MK vs MK. 3rd match: MK vs MK.

And:
1st match: MK vs MK. 2nd match: MK vs main. 3rd match: MK vs MK.

And don't forget those oh-so-fun-to-watch MK dittos.

You see, he doesn't break the CP system. See all the variety?

^^THE most sarcastic comment I've ever typed.

 

[Xyro77]

Brown paper sack?!?!?!?!?

ONE OF THE BEST USERNAMES I HAVE EVER SeeN!!!!!!!


ok hobo 16 info is up!


lets move!

 

[GHNeko]

OH ****. LETS GO.

HYPE HYPE HYPE.

<3 Texas

 

[Suspect]

about how much money should i bring to funplex? is the food and stuff expensive?

 

[Dingding123]

HOBO HYPE! :D

Man, I can't wait...beforehand, I'm gonna get my teeth whitened like crazy till they glow in the dark or something. Then I'm gonna play an MK main/alt in a tourney match...and I'll be counting every single ledge grab they make.

Once they hit 56, I'm going to pause the game, turn to them, and smile with the biggest grin you've ever seen. Like that trippy cat off of Alice in Wonderland.

 

[Suspect]

 

[GHNeko]

HOBO HYPE! :D

Man, I can't wait...beforehand, I'm gonna get my teeth whitened like crazy till they glow in the dark or something. Then I'm gonna play an MK main/alt in a tourney match...and I'll be counting every single ledge grab they make.

Once they hit 56, I'm going to pause the game, turn to them, and smile with the biggest grin you've ever seen. Like that trippy cat off of Alice in Wonderland.

Or you could jsut play the match and use the status results as an indicator, so you can actually focus on the match. <_>

 

[Espy Rose]

Tripping is stupid, and everyone knows it. But it's part of the game and has an equal chance of happening to anyone, so there's nothing you can do...

The chances of tripping are always the same, but the fact is that some characters absolutely NEED to dash, while others only have the dash as a commodity. So even though the odds of tripping are always constant, characters that dash more often are at a higher risk of tripping and being put at a disadvantage than characters that don't dash often (again, looking towards the more aerial-oriented characters).

ICs trip more often because there's two, and Sonic will trip much more than any other character because he needs to dash often.

In one match during WHOBO, I tripped 5 times; I usually average around 3 trips per match.
Oh, and no joke, the most I've tripped in a 3-stock, 7 minute match IN TOURNAMENT was 10 times, and I've died more than two-dozen times from trips.

I don't think there's any other person that could despise tripping as much as a Sonic main.

But eh, it's in the game, and even so, there's a way to get rid of that horrid element, given the TO agrees to allow it.

*hands out a "Falco is too ghey to play" membership card*

Wow, do we even have any falcos left now? Lol

Falcos are bleh. Throw them all in the frier. Chicken Fried Falco...

Once they hit 56, I'm going to pause the game, turn to them, and smile with the biggest grin you've ever seen. Like that trippy cat off of Alice in Wonderland.

This is absolutely amazing.

Or you could jsut play the match and use the status results as an indicator, so you can actually focus on the match. <_>

He could, but his way is much more funny.

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Oh, and I think I'll keep out of the MK conversation as well. There's enough crap surrounding that character as is.

 

[Gnes]

Uh...Hylian if i had not been planked...i would have made top 10...considering i would have had to play Dphat who ive beaten in tourney before...or santi...whos character matchup i know extensively.

Hylian...have u been planked before in tourney for 7minutes...

Because If u haven't im sorry but u cant possibly understand the thoughts that your money has just been wasted on a person abusing an exploitable game element.

 

[LouBega]

I wish we had Wario's here. The only Wario of any decent skill in this whole ****ing region is Kit in Missouri, and hes only so-so.

i heard that this kit guy is a beast in teams though. at least when he has a hangover.

 

[Hylian]

Uh...Hylian if i had not been planked...i would have made top 10...considering i would have had to play Dphat who ive beaten in tourney before...or santi...whos character matchup i know extensively.

Hylian...have u been planked before in tourney for 7minutes...

Because If u haven't im sorry but u cant possibly understand the thoughts that your money has just been wasted on a person abusing an exploitable game element.

Gnes do you know how much I travel? Yes I've been planked before lmao.

When I said that I ment no one in the money planked to beat anyone, and none of them would of been beaten by it either.

 

[Gnes]

Gnes do you know how much I travel? Yes I've been planked before lmao.

When I said that I ment no one in the money planked to beat anyone, and none of them would of been beaten by it either.

Thats why i asked sexy

But everyone in the money basically played metaknight...of course they wouldn't get beat by it.

Im trash teach me anti-planking strategies...though M2k told me its unstoppable.

P.S Thats 3 sad faces in one post

 

[Gea]

Tallman got raaaaaaaped