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Houston Thread - No HOBOs and no WHOBOs. What do we do now??????????????????????????????????????????

What side event should i include in my tournaments?


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Hero and Villain are about the same size in the beginning.



Bowser's tail is bigger than Mario. His face alone is too big for smash right? It can't possibly be scaled down.

This size difference is similar to how big Ridley is on Gameboy Advance games.




Holy ****, Nintendo villains just keep getting bigger and bigger it seems. No way this guy could get into Smash. Even at this perspective, Mario wouldn't even be a snack for Bowser.



Bowser is the size of a ****ing castle and ****.



Dont know what game this is from, but Ridley is ugly as **** damn.



This must be the biggest Ridley has ever been. His wingspan is massive, but in most games, his body is 3-5 times the size of Samus.

Bowser meanwhile gets to be the size of Kraid (or bigger).

One problem here is that Bowser seems to deal often with magic and ****, and Ridley keeps being reborn and cloned and all kinds of **** so they could be any size even in a main series game.

The more I look into it, the more I feel Ridley is just really ****ing ugly. He looks nice in Brawl, but in metroid games he doesn't look very appealing or smart at all.
 

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See Tesh, now you're just being silly because YOU are ignoring facts and cherry picking.

Metroid: Zero Mission pretty much retcons the original Metroid games.


Oh look...he's pretty much 2-3 Samus...es (Sami? Sammis?) tall. Also, Ridley has always...repeat ALWAYS been depicted as giant flying space pirate dragon. Hell, this is what Sakurai does with him in Brawl with SSBB. His depiction of Ridley is accurate and faithful to the game series.

Bowser usually grows large because of magic or the power of Power Stars. This happens in the NSMB games or in Mario Galaxy. It can even be argued that Giga Bowser is a good reference to this in Melee...he's defeated and comes back because lolmagic.

His canon size is slightly larger than Mario...if you want a realistic size comparison, at least use the Mario Kart games or Mario Tennis or some ****. He's not 20 feet tall, unlike a certain purple dragon.

Your obsession with Ridley being in the next Smash amuses me too much.
 

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I just explained to you why Mario Kart/Tennis don't matter. They are spinoffs like Smash. He is taken down in size to be playable.

In canon games, Bowser is never small anymore. Even if it is because of power stars, its safe to say he never goes into battle without them at this point.

Once again, your paper thin size argument is just a double standard. I'm not obsessed with Ridley, I'm just on the side of logic here. The whole "flying" thing I addressed as well. Simply have a slow walk w/ a hovering dash animation like charizard takes care of that. Obviously he doesn't need a running animation.
 

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This is just too good...

Your denial of facts makes this just sad...

Keep fighting the inevitable for whatever reason. I really hope Sakurai puts in Dark Samus just so he can cause a ****storm for Ridley fanatics like you.
 

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But P4, those are all side games! Even if all the side games made by NINTENDO with MIYAMOTO being involved show him being normal sized, they don't count. HERP DERP BERP WERP LERP.
 

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Oh god, now I see why Tesh has bad tastes...

Trash taste in food
Trash Brawl textures
Trash logic

I feel enlightened.
 

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Zano, I just saw your post.

Why would you be excited for a port of a six-old game filled with microtransactions and some of the worst MH gameplay?

Don't fall for it...

Speaking of falling, I have bad feelings about footstools returning.
 

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I thought up to 35 hours is part-time. Anything more is considered full-time...

Breaking those labor laws.
 

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Zano, I just saw your post.

Why would you be excited for a port of a six-old game filled with microtransactions and some of the worst MH gameplay?

Don't fall for it...

Speaking of falling, I have bad feelings about footstools returning.


you don't understand man, I know what I'm getting into
 

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Well, it's still Japan only at this time.

So unless you moved to Japan all of a sudden or somehow have a Japan IP address, it doesn't matter.
 

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This is just too good...

Your denial of facts makes this just sad...

Keep fighting the inevitable for whatever reason. I really hope Sakurai puts in Dark Samus just so he can cause a ****storm for Ridley fanatics like you.
I'm arguing purely on facts here. You guys are the ones ignoring all the evidence I brought up (often assuming the opposite).

You guys will so blatantly ignore my points, its impossible to even argue with you.

Don't care if Ridley gets in, my favorites are (presumably) already in.
Lmao good job picking Mario Galaxy where Bowser is the size of a planet due to magic. You picked all these fights where normal Bowser is upscaled wtf?







I'm too lazy to find more but watch these vids, 90% of the fights Bowser is a reasonable size to Mario http://www.screwattack.com/news/top-10-bowser-boss-battles[/quote][/quote]
Are you ****ing kidding me? I posted a screenshot from that EXACT game you derp. When mario has a mushroom he is taller than bowser. I just pointed out that at the beginning of both series, The Villain and Hero were the same size.

And then you link to a spinoff game?'

I did click your link. Guess what? The only games on that list where Bowser is small are spinoff games (the RPG games) and NES games (ridley was small on the NES too).

Whenever the graphical power of the system allows it, Bowser and Ridley are both HUGE in main series games. If there was a Metroid Party or Metroid cart racing or Metroid RPG, there would be just as many 6-7 foot tall ridley's because thats just how spinoffs are.

I welcome the idea of being wrong at this point, but you are all so bad at this. You literally linked to the same **** I linked and now believe it supports your argument... Its like I'm arguing with someone in the twilight zone.

For the record, I'm not even a big Metroid fan. My only qualm here is that illogical stance that Ridley is actually too big, despite being smaller than Bowser. I know when he doesn't make the cut, ya'll will just be like "see it cuz he wuz too big lol", but I'm just trying to get the logical point across to you. Ridley won't make it in because he is not as relevant as other options.

Just prove to be that Ridley is actually significantly bigger than Bowser in real Mario games. Right now, your arguments have been so bad, I'm 90% sure you guys are trolling. And why wouldn't you. If you admit your wrong, there is nothing else to talk about.
 

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It feels like I'm at gamefaqs. People are arguing over small things as if they matter. IMO just wait until the game comes out. Does no good for people to spend days arguing over something on a forum that won't change anything.

:059:
 

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It's just fun watching Tesh argue, "NO, I"M USING FACTS!!!!!!1!!!!!!" but he's so very very wrong.
 

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Funny how all you can do is keep saying "no you are wrong", but you find it impossible to actually refute anything I've said.

Anyway, is anyone gonna play ghosts on Wii U? Nothing seems more convenient for me than playing cod on the gamepad (and i feel like my ps3 wont last much longer). I've heard COD is a wasteland with some gametypes being too empty to even play on Wii U.
 

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Nope, its actually a pretty good game. I know its cool to hate on anything popular, but its fun and fast paced with all the proper guilty pleasures of multiplayer gaming.

The sad thing is (much like smash), no one has really shown up and done it better despite having an obviously good template to work with. I'd love to play COD in a more sci-fi setting. Something with the craziness of timesplitters or with the speed of UT2k4.
 

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Dude, I've given you examples. It's okay if you CHOOSE to ignore the truth, even if it's obvious in the oh....200 or so Mario games out there.

But I expect nothing less in Tesh's Wonderland where there's a McD's on every corner and if it's not a McD's, it's given a bad texture hack to look like one.
 

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Dude, I've given you examples. It's okay if you CHOOSE to ignore the truth, even if it's obvious in the oh....200 or so Mario games out there.

But I expect nothing less in Tesh's Wonderland where there's a McD's on every corner and everything is a terrible texture hack.
another" no you are wrong" post. i'm not even going to respond to your "nuh-uh" posts anymore. There is barely anything to respond to.

I welcome the idea of being wrong in an argument, but you seem to be incapable of even trying to do that. Only person to post anything relevant is P4.


Btw, Target is having B2G1 free on wii u games this week. Anyone interested? My plan is to scoop up W101 finally and maaaaaaaybe Pikmin since its 40$ each.
 

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For real?

I've already proved Bowser's regular size and already disproved you grossly misguided Mario Galaxy examples, you're ignoring it.

I've already listed Ridley facts, but you're just hurrrr durr, don't care.

I have no problem being wrong, but only when it's wrong. Not "you're wrong, because I'm misinterpreting everything" which is what you've done.
 

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I posted picture of Bowser's "regular size". He was only small on NES and he immediately got way bigger and bigger and bigger as long as the system he was on allowed for it.

I actually found a pretty much perfect article on gamesradar with screenshots and everything.

http://www.gamesradar.com/the-ever-changing-sizes-of-mario-and-bowser/

The picture I linked was actually from Super Mario Sunshine (i knew i didnt recognize that fight). Takes you through every era of Mario, essentially proving everything I posted here. You can clearly see Mario and Bowser are only of similar sizes on NES and Spinoff games (mostly to make bowser playable). In every main series game since, Mario is no larger than Bowser's head (and usually small enough to fit in his mouth).

http://www.gamesradar.com/the-ever-changing-sizes-of-samus-ridley-and-kraid/

Another one for Metroid, as you can see Ridley follows the same pattern as Bowser. Metroid has way less games than Mario however, so obviously no spinoff games with Ridley playable and only 1 NES entry. If anything this says more about the real reason Ridley could be left out of Smash forever. Metroid just isn't nearly as popular as the other Nintendo stuff. Probably doesn't help that he doesn't have as much personality as other villains (even though he is supposed to be really smart or something...).

Those 2 articles alone basically prove that Bowser is bigger than Ridley. Even in his smallest recent appearance (NSMB), Bowser is still pretty damn big.

Tell me more about Dark Samus though. How would she have her own moveset, isn't it just....Samus but evil?



On a related note, what characters do you think will be added? As I mentioned earlier, I feel like Nintendo has scraped the bottom of the barrel already, leaving us with less newcomers this time, or some bizarre characters. At this point, who can they really add that could bring some hype? We've all heard K Rool and Mewtwo, but what else can they do and even more importantly, what does this mean for Smash 5? There will be basically nothing at that point (unless more 3rd parties are allowed in).

Maybe W101 could gain popularity by then or Bayonetta could be worked in as the trilogy completes. At this, I feel suddenly more heartbroken than ever over rareware's death. I wonder which entry of Smash would have seen Banjo and Conker and anything else Rareware might have created.

edit: i think after the ddos attack, this thread now actually functions properly
 

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One exception for Bowser = OMG BOWSER TOO BIG TOO

But Ridley consistently being big = HE CAN BE SMALL, GIVE IT A CHANCE

What...just...what.
 

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Just read the articles, Bowser is almost always bigger than Ridley. He just has way more games in his series (over a dozen spinoffs where he is playable and small). Just look at the main series games and see his sizes there.
 

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You're taking an article from a random video game site as fact now?

My head hurts.

I want to get off Tesh's Wonderland ride.
 

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RT its got screenshots from the games. What more do you want? Are you saying that stuff is photoshopped or something? I show you proof and now you just want to discredit the entire site?

I know this is alot of information for you to understand, but a 5 year old could look at the pictures and come to a logical conclusion like "look mommy, bowser is so big!". FFS, its pictures from the actual games man. You might as well discredit the entire company that made them at this point.

I'm done, I gave you a neat article that proves my point. If you have something to add thats not in that article (some actual evidence), please present it.
 

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A newborn knows Ridley won't be in the game because he's too big.

I fail to see your point.
 

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Let it be known that RT is actively avoiding addressing evidence in favor of posting 1 liners.
 

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Let it be known that it won't matter, Ridley won't be playable.
 
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