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Houston Smash Ultimate Thread
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Teshie U
Smash Lord
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[Fish]
Here is my 3DS FC btw guys: 0920-0369-4159 I'm down to struggle through these awful 3DS stages if anyone want to practice.
Xyro, your ruleset doesn't say when custom moves fall into counterpicking. I think its just part of picking your character in any phase, but you should specify it anyway.
Here is my 3DS FC btw guys: 0920-0369-4159 I'm down to struggle through these awful 3DS stages if anyone want to practice.
Xyro, your ruleset doesn't say when custom moves fall into counterpicking. I think its just part of picking your character in any phase, but you should specify it anyway.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
I don't know how to word it. I'm still working on it.
Just another reason why custom moves suck ****
Just another reason why custom moves suck ****
UltimateRazer
Smash Champion
You have 8 custom characters slot. If you don't have all your possible choices set up....well f you suck and deserve to lose.
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KRDsonic
Smash Master
Bouncing Fish has so much ending lag if you miss though, and some characters can punish you if you hit their shield with it and bounce off. Kinda makes me nervous.
UltimateRazer
Smash Champion
Bouncing fish is good. Just use it at the right time.
Haptic
Smash Journeyman
You have to combo into it. A string of f-airs into a Bouncing Fish, for example.Bouncing Fish has so much ending lag if you miss though, and some characters can punish you if you hit their shield with it and bounce off. Kinda makes me nervous.
Zano
Smash Master
razer's avi just killed me
afk
afk
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Razer I hate your avatar. You are banned from TGC
Also, how would I write out the customs move counter pick?
Also, anti zelda/sheik/rosalina recovery tech http://smashboards.com/threads/anti-zelda-sheik-palutena-3ds-trick.372377/#post-17746797
Also, how would I write out the customs move counter pick?
Also, anti zelda/sheik/rosalina recovery tech http://smashboards.com/threads/anti-zelda-sheik-palutena-3ds-trick.372377/#post-17746797
Zano
Smash Master
shiek can have a tough time killing if she doesn't gimp you early, but then she throws needles and gets bouncing fish fresh and u die.
KRDsonic
Smash Master
Oh, you can combo into it? That sounds pretty nice.
Her being top tier or not has nothing to do with her kill potential. Look at Marth in Melee. Top tier. Horrible time trying to get a kill if he doesn't combo into the kill early on. And it's more of a case of her being different from what I was used to in Brawl, and that it'll take a while to get used to. I never said she's bad.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Sakurai just confirmed he did not have enough man hours nor money in the budget for new chars and that's why we have clones in smash 4.
Lucina, doc and dark pit are BARGIN BIN BUDGET CHARACTERS
http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-on-the-clone-characters-in-smash-bros-wii-u3ds/
Lucina, doc and dark pit are BARGIN BIN BUDGET CHARACTERS
http://nintendoeverything.com/sakurai-on-the-clone-characters-in-smash-bros-wii-u3ds/
i liked the restaurant quote. its perfect and exactly the point so many whiners have missed. clones are just a small bonus. and there is no suggestions that he feels the roster is unfinished
yea, bouncing fish is not a move to be used at neutral to kill. thats not how sheik operates anyway. its a swift punish or something you combo with
pick customs as you pick your character. if you add another alternating step it kind of lets people get around being cped. customs are part of your chracter and are part of that phase.
common sense rules for fiddling with customs. no more than 60 seconds to cp and select moves.
yea, bouncing fish is not a move to be used at neutral to kill. thats not how sheik operates anyway. its a swift punish or something you combo with
pick customs as you pick your character. if you add another alternating step it kind of lets people get around being cped. customs are part of your chracter and are part of that phase.
common sense rules for fiddling with customs. no more than 60 seconds to cp and select moves.
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Tesh, what? So pick customs as you pick youR initial character and then repick customs when it is you time to CP characters? You have 60seconds?
What section should I put ^ that in and how exactly should I word it?
Illmatic, I think I get it. It means either
1. I should stop touching myself to WiiFitGirl pics and start doing it to music.
Or
2. People say maining wiifitgirl wont last but as the week (code name for time) goes on, the love/relationship grows and by Saturday (the future) she will be your main and you will show the rest what's up.
Or
3. EVERYBOOOOOODY SAID IT WILL NEVER LAAAAAST. SAID THAT IM DREAMIN AND IM GOIN TO FAAAAAST. OH YOU WONT BELIEVE US WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT YOU HEAR. I SAID YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaah
SATURDAY NIGHT!
What section should I put ^ that in and how exactly should I word it?
Illmatic, I think I get it. It means either
1. I should stop touching myself to WiiFitGirl pics and start doing it to music.
Or
2. People say maining wiifitgirl wont last but as the week (code name for time) goes on, the love/relationship grows and by Saturday (the future) she will be your main and you will show the rest what's up.
Or
3. EVERYBOOOOOODY SAID IT WILL NEVER LAAAAAST. SAID THAT IM DREAMIN AND IM GOIN TO FAAAAAST. OH YOU WONT BELIEVE US WHEN YOU HEAR WHAT YOU HEAR. I SAID YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaah
SATURDAY NIGHT!
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Fliphopper
Smash Lord
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I think the Google Spreadsheet would be very useful in maintaining the Houston Friend Code List. Do you have a link? I can make some tweaks where it needs fit?
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
i only wanna add people who have requested it.
Teshie U
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Customs are simply part of picking your character.
If its a double blind pick, you reveal your characters AND customs at the same time to a 3rd party.
When its time to CP:
1-Winner bans
2-Loser CPs stage
3-Winner chooses character and customs
4-loser chooses character and customs.
If you were to add another phase, it takes more away from the CPer (unless thats something we WANT to do) as they might have their CP stage/character mitigated by different customs. Better to just keep it simple for now anyway.
If its a double blind pick, you reveal your characters AND customs at the same time to a 3rd party.
When its time to CP:
1-Winner bans
2-Loser CPs stage
3-Winner chooses character and customs
4-loser chooses character and customs.
If you were to add another phase, it takes more away from the CPer (unless thats something we WANT to do) as they might have their CP stage/character mitigated by different customs. Better to just keep it simple for now anyway.
RT
Smash Hero
I honestly think if you decide to use a custom move, you MUST reveal this to your opponent. I'm not sure what the current ruleset is for other regions, but I feel like this is something that is needed.
Teshie U
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Yes, you reveal it with your character during ANY phase. In double blind and counterpicking you must show your custom moves before the match begins certainly.
Some people have argued that pokemon doesn't do this, so why should we, but honestly that game has 0 execution (well i've heard of people clicking the wrong move :/ ) so holding back specific information is all you have outside of basic reads. There are benefits to either method, but I prefer full disclosure since we need to verify there is no equipment on anyway.
Has anyone tested the "random" function for customs setups? Does it put equipment on? If it does, obviously we ban it, but if it only gives random custom moves, we should allow it just the same as random picking a character.
Xyro, I trust you've been keeping an eye on new discoveries and whatnot. Do you have any opinion on stalling with wall-clings?
Some people have argued that pokemon doesn't do this, so why should we, but honestly that game has 0 execution (well i've heard of people clicking the wrong move :/ ) so holding back specific information is all you have outside of basic reads. There are benefits to either method, but I prefer full disclosure since we need to verify there is no equipment on anyway.
Has anyone tested the "random" function for customs setups? Does it put equipment on? If it does, obviously we ban it, but if it only gives random custom moves, we should allow it just the same as random picking a character.
Xyro, I trust you've been keeping an eye on new discoveries and whatnot. Do you have any opinion on stalling with wall-clings?
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
I agree on the revealing of custom moves. I'll try and word it write and have it added in tonight. Thanks, guys.
As for wall cling, they don't uncling after 3sec? If not, thats a stalling issue. I have rules for that already but its that old vague "if it halts game play or makes the game unplayable it's considered stalling."
I'll edit it and say "no wall clinging for more than 3 seconds."
In melee peach could pick a low spot on a wall near the blast zone peach bomb the wall multiple times in a row to stall and run the timer so we had to make a rule for it. This cling thing is kinda the same.
As for wall cling, they don't uncling after 3sec? If not, thats a stalling issue. I have rules for that already but its that old vague "if it halts game play or makes the game unplayable it's considered stalling."
I'll edit it and say "no wall clinging for more than 3 seconds."
In melee peach could pick a low spot on a wall near the blast zone peach bomb the wall multiple times in a row to stall and run the timer so we had to make a rule for it. This cling thing is kinda the same.
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RT
Smash Hero
Random function does add equipment. Try making a custom character and select random.
As for wallclinging, no one will be able to sufficiently stall with it. Are you sure you don't fall off automatically? You automatically fell off in Brawl and start losing height after a certain number of walljumps without landing. The only stages that can be wallclinged are the FD stages with walls (reg FD does not have any), Yoshi's Island, and parts of Arena Ferox. I think that is it. Brinstar no longer allows it.
I'll test it tonight.
As for wallclinging, no one will be able to sufficiently stall with it. Are you sure you don't fall off automatically? You automatically fell off in Brawl and start losing height after a certain number of walljumps without landing. The only stages that can be wallclinged are the FD stages with walls (reg FD does not have any), Yoshi's Island, and parts of Arena Ferox. I think that is it. Brinstar no longer allows it.
I'll test it tonight.
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Haptic
Smash Journeyman
Yo Allan, I just had a random thought. Whatever happened to Roy_R? Is that man still around? He was never that interested in Brawl, any idea if he's trying out Smash 4? I've been trying out Captain Falcon, and I was reminded of his sick Melee Falcon.
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UltimateRazer
Smash Champion
UltimateRazer
Smash Champion
You know what else is effing cute? My avatar.
AvoiD
Smash Lord
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Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Equipment will NEVER be considered by me. I would rather go back to brawl than to allow more bull ****.
Razer, change that demonic avatar.
RT, please test it.
Haptic, RoyR played brawl for about 2-3 years. He's married and finished school. He's all about real life now
Razer, change that demonic avatar.
RT, please test it.
Haptic, RoyR played brawl for about 2-3 years. He's married and finished school. He's all about real life now
RT
Smash Hero
Yeah, you can wallcling on the same wall 3 times before you fall to your death. And considering how safe most of the walls are in this game, it's not worth even trying in a real match because you can still get footstooled. No one ever got stalled out in Brawl from wallclings, and it certainly will never happen here unless you're BAD.
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alex mora
Smash Ace
there is already one on the houston smash 4 page on facebook. join the group and ill get your fc on it
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
Ok so a wall cling rule isn't needed. Good.
Zano
Smash Master
Xyro77
Unity Ruleset Committee Member
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