Housepets! Mafia - Game Over - Who lived happily ever after in Babylon Gardens?

[Jim Morrison]

Flavour was wrong, he claims day cop in his first post, investigates TG7 and gets a guilty 5 minutes after the game is even created.

 

[Deleted member]

then why didn't you play along by voting tokyo?

 

[Jim Morrison]

Didn't care much for what JTB was doing, others would vote Tokyo if they felt the need to. I didn't.
Also, it wasn't exactly clear to me what JTB was trying to do, so I tried to refrain from helping him. Not until now, at least.

 

[Deleted member]

so it wasn't "super obvious" what he was doing then.

 

[Jim Morrison]

No, that his claim was fake was super obvious, that's what I said. Or intended to say.

I'm off for about 24 hours now!

 

[John2k4]

That's what I was starting to think you were doing, JTB, but it went 10 feet over my head when you first posted it. :/

 

[John2k4]

Tokyo, what were your thoughts/feelings towards JTB's claim on you?

 

[T-block]

I couldn't find any peanuts >=(

JTB, you're being silly. The gambit was hella obvious, but going along with it or going against it isn't a scum tell in itself. Do you really think there's a higher chance of scum being among those who opposed it? If you're going to throw out a daycop claim like that at the start of D1 where some reasonable players will pick up on it, you gain information on experience of other players rather than alignment, no?

You should be able to tell much more about how the target of the gambit reacts though, especially since this is apparently his first game. I don't think his reaction was tainted by the posts of others to such an extent that we can gain no information at all from it. Having a daycop call you scum right off the bat is pretty scary even without votes to back it up, especially for a new player. Yet in your 116, you dismiss any information gained on TG7 in favour of casting suspicion on pretty much everyone else. Why?

So, JTB, are you able to tell anything about TG7?

I don't really like how you followed up on this gambit at all.

 

[T-block]

Gustave's behaviour with respect to the gambit is somewhat contradictory and is characterized by being super safe.

Posts that suggest Gustave does not believe the gambit:

Note how after the fact he calls the gambit blatantly obvious. One reason he cites is that the flavour was wrong.

Spoiler

No, because I find it hard to believe that you would investigate TokyoGamer, someone who has never played before, over a more expierenced player to clear them.

What made you investigate him?

Eh, in this case I don't mind, at least JTB progressed the game, even if he lied about his role, but I think it was so blatantly obvious, that I wouldn't even count it as a lie anymore.

Flavour was wrong, he claims day cop in his first post, investigates TG7 and gets a guilty 5 minutes after the game is even created.

No, that his claim was fake was super obvious, that's what I said. Or intended to say.

I'm off for about 24 hours now!

Posts that suggest Gustave does not DISbelieve the claim:

Yet here he feels the need to question sanity and such. These posts certainly do not suggest that he felt the gambit was "blatantly" obvious. Second post feels faked given the context.

Spoiler

Tokyo, are you scum? Why would JTB say you're scum if you say you aren't.

Is your sanity confirmed? Day cop is such an unusual role, at least I've never seen it before, I don't really trust the claim, adding the flavour mix-up.

Other posts that I dislike because he's just defending others:

He defends people on both sides, and neither of the posts provide much insight. ie- they could have been made by the person being confronted, yet he feels the need to step in. Why is he posting for them? Fake contributing? Trying to prevent future confrontation?

Spoiler

I wouldn't lynch someone for flavour not being very correct. As a mod, I would punch myself if I made the cop in the comic also the cop in the game.

He already said no.

 

[T-block]

Gustave's behaviour with respect to the gambit is somewhat contradictory and is characterized by being super safe.

Posts that suggest Gustave does not believe the gambit:

Note how after the fact he calls the gambit blatantly obvious. First post here suggests that he never had any idea of what JTB's motivation was, which he later confirms in 123. If he knew the gambit was fake, yet could not discern any reason for it, why does he not show any suspicion of JTB for it? Instead he makes a post opposing pressure on JTB in 44.

Spoiler

No, because I find it hard to believe that you would investigate TokyoGamer, someone who has never played before, over a more expierenced player to clear them.

What made you investigate him?

Eh, in this case I don't mind, at least JTB progressed the game, even if he lied about his role, but I think it was so blatantly obvious, that I wouldn't even count it as a lie anymore.

Flavour was wrong, he claims day cop in his first post, investigates TG7 and gets a guilty 5 minutes after the game is even created.

No, that his claim was fake was super obvious, that's what I said. Or intended to say.

I'm off for about 24 hours now!

Posts that suggest Gustave does not DISbelieve the claim:

Yet here, before the gambit was revealed, he feels the need to question sanity and such. These posts certainly do not suggest that he felt the gambit was "blatantly" obvious. Second post feels faked given the context.

Spoiler

Tokyo, are you scum? Why would JTB say you're scum if you say you aren't.

Is your sanity confirmed? Day cop is such an unusual role, at least I've never seen it before, I don't really trust the claim, adding the flavour mix-up.

Other posts that I dislike because he's just defending others:

He defends people on both sides, and neither of the posts provide much insight. ie- they could have been made by the person being confronted, yet he feels the need to step in. Why is he posting for them? Fake contributing? Trying to prevent future confrontation?

Spoiler

I wouldn't lynch someone for flavour not being very correct. As a mod, I would punch myself if I made the cop in the comic also the cop in the game.

He already said no.

 

[T-block]

APPARENTLY I ENDED UP POSTING BEFORE I FINISHED

Ignore 129 please.

 

[T-block]

Sorry if I kinda stole your thunder there, TPK. I had the thoughts based on previous posts, but his responses to you ended up being pretty useful. Seemed like you were done with that line of questioning, so I hope I didn't interrupt anything. You can be town in my eyes if that makes you feel any better

LAL is garbage btw, if only for the fact that there are people who play this game who believe it's okay to lie as town.

@everyone: Thoughts on my posts about JTB and Gustave, please. Maybe I'll even tell you right now that I do not necessarily agree with my posted suspicions. I won't say whether it's neither of them or both of them, or one of them, or which one, so you'll have to evaluate both on the merits of logic alone. Does what I posted suggest that either is scum? Can both be scum?

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Skimming and saw this line: "Tery is being dense as usual and I tend to ignore him most of the time. If you are vengeful townie, just claim it now and save us the headache later. Null."

That has no leeway whatsoever. You were scum in Megaman X. I'll reread after class.

 

[Xiivi]

Vc1.a

6/10|10.27.11 11:59PM EST

votee|voters
TokyoGamer7|T-block/
JTB|Terywj/The Paprika Killer/
Terywj|Gustave/
Red Ryu|JTB/
No Vote|Auspher/John2k4/Red Ryu/TokyoGamer7/Kantrip/

 

[T-block]

unvote

Skimming and saw this line: "Tery is being dense as usual and I tend to ignore him most of the time. If you are vengeful townie, just claim it now and save us the headache later. Null."

That has no leeway whatsoever. You were scum in Megaman X. I'll reread after class.

What's the back story here? Why is he saying "dense as usual", and how does his being scum in MMX invalidate that?

 

[T-block]

@mod: If you could place all of my 129 in a collapse tag that'd be cool. It looks really ugly =)

 

[Deleted member]

nah, I got busy with other stuff and I would probably not have put it in such a nice-to-read post by post.

who said that Dense As Usual line?

 

[T-block]

JTB did in 116. I'd also like to hear the vengeful townie line explained, by either Tery or JTB.

 

[JTB]

Quick post, those statements refer to his play in megaman x where he played scummy then claimed vengeful townie out of nowhere. Lynched him d3 and he didn't shoot the person town agreed on he should shoot.

 

[T-block]

Cool, thanks.

Much more interested in hearing what you actually think of TG7 atm though.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Quick post, those statements refer to his play in megaman x where he played scummy then claimed vengeful townie out of nowhere. Lynched him d3 and he didn't shoot the person town agreed on he should shoot.

"Out of nowhere"? Bull****. I was asked to claim lol.

 

[T-block]

Just wondering Tery, when can we expect substance from you?

 

[Deleted member]

Furries shouldn't kill one another.

 

[Vinylic.]

Especially when it's shojo.

 

[John2k4]

TG7, could you answer my 127, please?

Tokyo, what were your thoughts/feelings towards JTB's claim on you?

 

[Vinylic.]

Well, I was thinking, "why would he vote me for?"

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Just wondering Tery, when can we expect substance from you?

Right after TokyoGamer gets policy lynched.

 

[John2k4]

Right after TokyoGamer gets policy lynched.

But you wouldn't want that to happen to your scumbuddy...

 

[Terywj [태리]]

TokyoGamer is your scumbuddy? Oh.

 

[Kantrip]

Tokyo, you never answered when asked for your win con.

So scummy.

 

[John2k4]

Try quoting it and asking again in a new post. That seems to have worked for my question.

 

[Kantrip]

Nah, if he avoids questions it just means he's mafia

 

[Deleted member]

John2k4, how do you feel about JTB?

 

[John2k4]

I feel that he could be town, trying to put pressure on and extract info from the new Tokyo by doing the faked cop act.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, I could see that. I think it could go both ways with him trying to snag a fast lynch as a mafia member. Personally, I'm not sure. I have him as null for now.

 

[John2k4]

Yeah, I could see that. I think it could go both ways with him trying to snag a fast lynch as a mafia member.

I like this. He could be trying to do this to TG7, since he is completely new to the Mafia scene and did not know how to defend himself.

Or at least scum trying to earn town cred.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

I find it hard for anyone to pinpoint JTB as town or scum. Should be like super null, haha.

Unless they're like never played Mafia before / with JTB before/

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Tokyo, gonna ask again what is your wincon?

~

If he refuses to answer Toyko is the fallback lynch, no if ands or buts.

@T-Block: JTB is not scum for what you posted and what he did in my eyes, Gustave you have a very valid point on him, one of which I would consider scummy.

@Auspher: Thoughts on Tery thus far?

@Kantrip: Same for you.

 

[John2k4]

If he refuses to answer Toyko is the fallback lynch, no if ands or buts.

Ah, gonna do that in this game?

 

[Deleted member]

@Auspher: Thoughts on Tery thus far?

I don't really know. Other than his comment on JTB, he's yet to really post something of much substance, like T-block pointed out earlier. I don't have a read on him yet.