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I meant much less likely, by the way.Marc, I really don't think you're mafia, but your playstyle is a bit too aggressive. You've got some experience, and from what I can see, you're fairly smart. You're only hurting yourself by calling the other players idiots. Makes them much more likely to listen to what you have to say.
Don't think it's because I think you're town, I only did it because with 13 people in there it would have been stupid to lynch an active player with no reasoning besides two people bickering back and forth.KevinM: Good call, I would have been dead without that.
If I was dumb enough to blatantly tie it at the last second as mafia, that would be downright ridiculous, that would be like hammering when people are telling you to wait just to get a quick kill as mafia. Would you really want a lynch vote with THREE votes.****, fine, you arrogant *******s! I'll play your little game!
You know what? I don't like how KevinM jumped in on the vote last round. It seemed like he was trying to protect Marc by tieing the vote at the last second. I think they're both Mafia.
VOTE: KevinM
I apologize if you think my temperance is bad. Also, I don't want to use being a foreigner as an excuse, but it does make a difference sometimes. This really is the way I play usually, though I would be less aggressive in a role that required me to lay low until a critical moment.Let's just say that I find your general lack of temperance.. disconcerting. And this has nothing to do with foreignness, I don't believe. But... I wanna give you the benefit of the doubt, and even if the 'tude isn't a role restriction, it might just be you and I suppose there's some reason for it. The game must go on, and not everyone (myself included) has been doing their part.
Point taken. I really didn't think people would take offense to this level though. In the games I've played things could get rough, hell, even in SBR discussions things can get rough, but that isn't personal. In the first case it's about playing the game, in the latter about defending a point of view.Marc, I really don't think you're mafia, but your playstyle is a bit too aggressive. You've got some experience, and from what I can see, you're fairly smart. You're only hurting yourself by calling the other players idiots. Makes them much more likely to listen to what you have to say.
Indeed, that's why I trust you for now. I'm pretty sure you would've let me die if you were Mafia. Too bad the others won't really trust you until I die. =pIf I was dumb enough to blatantly tie it at the last second as mafia, that would be downright ridiculous, that would be like hammering when people are telling you to wait just to get a quick kill as mafia. Would you really want a lynch vote with THREE votes.
First of all, I have tons of experience with different rules in my own language. The core of the game is basically the same, but the role names are a bit confusing. To be fair though, I've been active from the beginning, I just stand out more now. I don't think I'm trying to control the game, that would mean I'd point people towards other players all the time. If anyone is controlling the game right now, it's Eor. I just want people to be active, which is why I'm being more aggressive, people feel the need to respond when they're attacked.Also I'd like to hear a little more from Marc, I especially like how Eor pointed out he seemed to not have a clue what he was doing at the beginning and is taking the reigns now, much like how I play when I'm mafia starting reserved and then trying to control the game.
Err, that's now how this works. You think of reasons to kill someone, not the other way around.Still voting Marc now, just because I really cannot think of a reason not to vote for him.
I suspected a setup, so I said something right away. Didn't really help so far.The only person I'm leaning towards is Marc. =/ Sure, it's a little too convenient that Virg died after confronting him, but Marc seemed to make that an immediate go-to excuse.
Pay attention to class, Kevin.<3 replaces tmw_redcell
Ah, that's kinda like the Seer role. Meaning we lost one of our most valuable allies. I kinda suspected it because I didn't think the replacement would be random, which is why I hesitated to just vote for Virgilijus. The Mafia picked up on that as well, which leads me to believe some of them aren't that stupid.
Marc – One of the things I’m confused about is why you had any suspicion Virg was the Town Reporter or “Seer” role. You state that you suspected his replacement wouldn’t be random. So while there was a good chance he had an important role you go on like you specifically thought he was the Town Reporter. Any reason?When you are a Townie and you suspect someone is the Seer, YOU DON'T POST THAT UNLESS THAT PERSON IS IN DANGER OF GETTING LYNCHED. It's like saying who the Mafia should go after. I suspected Virgilijus had a special role and thought it more likely that it was a good guy role, but at the same time he was attacking me, so I was confused. I decided to wait it out and not go after him and risk killing the Seer.
Ugh. I can't explain anything either. I'm a gut instinct person. But what the hell.Matunas said:Xsyven – I understand your lack of posting due to experience or not wanting to get killed off, but it doesn’t really help anything. It’d be nice to get some input.
Well I wasn't actually asking for you to vote immediately. Just to add whatever it was you thought on people's actions thus far.Ugh. I can't explain anything either. I'm a gut instinct person. But what the hell.
Vote: Marc
Subject to change. Just voting so I don't get in trouble when the deadline comes.
And now that I did that, I'm TOTALLY Mafia because I took advantage of Marc's high vote count, and blamed it on being scared. (See what I mean, Matunas?)
I hate reruns.And on a totally unrelated note:
What's the difference between a Porsche and a hedgehog?
A hedgehog has its pricks on the outside.
Hey-o!!
I try to force people to act and choose in order to get valuable information before we're all dead. I'm on the defensive right now, but I am watching. I at least sparked some activity. :xLike a lot of you I’m pretty suspicious of Marc. He has been the most vocal of all the people posting by far, yet when it comes to actually arguing against anyone there has been very little he has had to say on the subject. Pretty much lynch the in-actives and a strong suspicion of GoldShadow. Sure he has been on the defensive for awhile, but it just seems like there is a purpose to it. It almost feels as if he is luring people out to post about him. Sure this could just be a ploy to get everyone to post more, but who actually wants to draw attention to themselves in a mafia game? I’m not sure how to take this.
Simply because I'm not used to there being many more special roles in a game this size. Also, his behaviour. I think he tried not to be overly active, but he actually wanted to play, which cost him because everyone was being quiet. His posting style was a bit suspicious to me at first, but then I realised it was mostly because he attacked me, so I figured he'd have a Seer-like role.Marc – One of the things I’m confused about is why you had any suspicion Virg was the Town Reporter or “Seer” role. You state that you suspected his replacement wouldn’t be random. So while there was a good chance he had an important role you go on like you specifically thought he was the Town Reporter. Any reason?
You'll be in trouble after the vote if this keeps up.Ugh. I can't explain anything either. I'm a gut instinct person. But what the hell.
Vote: Marc
Subject to change. Just voting so I don't get in trouble when the deadline comes.![]()
You seem to have figured out what I'm trying to do, yet you want to add yourself to the suspicious people? Suspicious. If inactives keep being replaced you won't hear me advocating their death anymore, because we can finally start playing then.I'll vote for Marc because, lets face it, voting for an inactive isn't going to do anything and I think if Marc goes it'll actually open up some information we can use to find moar Mafia guys.
How can I not have supreme confidence in my own innocence? I've never debated I'm as suspicious as anyone else to other people. I think most of the votes for me are absurd because they're based on things like "gut instinct" and "a hunch". I really think it's bad to kill off an active player when you have so little on him. If I'm Mafia I'll probably give myself away anyway if I keep posting like this, so why not wait?I think the thing that's bothered me most about Marc is his supreme confidence in his purportedly awesome argument to his own innocence and the absurdity of our voting for him.
That catches me off guard. Obviously if Marc is town then this will just reassure KevinM’s possible alignment, but if we do end up lynching him (which seems very likely) and he ends up mafia, this ends up automatically casting suspicion on KevinM even if he happens to be town. I guess we’ll have to see how that all plays out. It does make me suspect Marc a lot less.KevinM: The chance that he’s Mafia is extremely low. He saved my life earlier, and although it could have been a smart (and dangerous) move to solidify his own position, I highly doubt that. Trust him.
I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about Matt’s post. Why do you think your role is meant to cause complication? You have a role restriction that makes you seem like the class clown, the only thing that confuses me is what your role does or if you are truly town. If you’re really the jester then I can see where you’re coming from, but if you’re just a townie with a (somewhat) funny role restriction then the only thing I’m not sure about is what you’re capable of. If you think you’re on to something, and that AltF4 really is mafia, I’m wondering what you think his role does/is. Not asking you to role or ability claim, just elaborate on why you feel Alt is dangerous. Is it just that you feel he is a contrast to you, or do you have an idea as to what he might be?Think about it like this: My role as the funny guy is meant to complicate the game, and I've embraced it thoroughly. It does little good to say "I'm not mafia," and even less good for me to say "Seriously, guys"--but it's true. I'm meant to be questionable, to beg the question of whether I'm mostly harmless with my humor or some kind of twisted mad man out to kill all of you. I can only assure you that I'm the former.
This leads me to believe that AltF4's role as the person who clearly hates everyone serves a similar purpose: Complication. This also leads me to believe that, for the sake of variety, AltF4 is in fact a mafiaso. If for nothing else than to satisfy Tom's own literary sensibilities to craft a world of both similarities and contrasts, I'm highly suspicious of AltF4. There wouldn't be two suspicious members serving the same purpose.
Does that really count as a vote against me?Vote:Redcell
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Vote Replacement for: Redcell
He hasn't posted since ever.. either take him out or replace him.
Honestly, the only thing I'm going on is the fact that Virg got killed right after he and Marc had a big argument. Sure, it could be a setup against Marc, but it could just as easily be Marc using that as leverage, or evidence against bein' Mafia.I don’t like the fact that Mic and Xsyven just voted immediately when I asked for some activity. Instead of just posting some information or thoughts they jumped on the Marc bandwagon. I guess that’s one way of operating, just pretty sudden for two guys who have been hanging back in the shadows.
Its a vote against tmw_redcell, or a vote to replace him. Not a vote to lynch his replacement.Does that really count as a vote against me?![]()
That's what I thought too.Its a vote against tmw_redcell, or a vote to replace him. Not a vote to lynch his replacement.![]()
And that's the only reason I mentioned it.Vote Count
Marc (4): Eor, CK, Xsyven, Mic_128
Matunas (1): KevinM
AltF4Warrior (1): Matt
KevinM (1): AltF4Warrior
Not voting (5): Mediocre, Marc, Matunas, Yeroc, Goldshadow
He most definitely said "Vote: Name" in bold, which is what you say to vote someone. If this is not the case, then it is not the mod's burden to correct it, it is the players.Vote:Redcell
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Vote Replacement for: Redcell
this is going in my signature as long as I live.It's all scare tactics. This game has no strategy.![]()