He Has a Bone to Pick With You: The Sans Thread that was coming anyway...

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Somehow my gut feeling is growing towards Sans in Smash after these announcements...

We'll see though.
 

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At the end of Chapter 1 you can interact with sans and he tells you, "Come back tomorrow and watch my little brother for me because I'll be busy."

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Busy doing what exactly? Busy smashing that's wut.

Also I find it weird that the game is already fully translated into Japanese, I wonder why....
 
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He could still be a Spirit.

Or even...and Adventure Mode boss...
With the crazy amount of Spirits and how obscure a lot of them are, I would not be surprised at all if Frisk, Sans, and heck the rest of Undertale's bosses were Spirits. I could also see a Spirit fight against a yellow Pirahna Plant acting as Flowey, which would be dope
 
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Since Piranha Plant doesn't come out till after release, I doubt he'll show up in Spirits mode(unless new ones get added along with DLC).
 

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Since Piranha Plant doesn't come out till after release, I doubt he'll show up in Spirits mode(unless new ones get added along with DLC).
The way Sm4sh worked was everyone was forced to download the DLC regardless, and purchasing it just unlocked the characters for use (so that you could face players using DLC online). So putting DLC characters as enemies in Spirits wouldn't be a problem, and would also serve to remind people to buy the DLC
 

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I don't think Sans would be a good choice to represent Undertale, seeing as he's almost impossible to provoke into fighting. The fact that he is in any way good in a scrap isn't something that should be common knowledge to anyone who hasn't been judged for committing genocide.

However, I do think Undertale deserves representation in the DLC roster, and I think that the character most suited to the position is TORIEL. I am prepared to post a thread advocating for her inclusion if anyone is interested.
 
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You're fooling yourself.

The only two serious possibilities for a playable Undertale character are Frisk or Sans. Frisk because he's the protag, Sans because he's the most popular and recognizable character from the game. Nobody else even has a chance.

That said, I agree that being a playable character doesn't really suit Sans. He should either be an Assist Trophy or a Boss in Adventure Mode.
 

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I think sans had more move set potential than Frisk, but Sakurai put fricking Piranha Plant in So... anything’s possible
 

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I think sans had more move set potential than Frisk, but Sakurai put fricking Piranha Plant in So... anything’s possible
I wouldn't say sans has more moveset potential than Frisk, he's just got a more inherently obvious moveset.
Frisk has plenty of moveset potential (honestly though, every character does) and ways to represent Undertale's battle system (like some potentially clever way to incorporate ACTing and Sparing). But since Frisk's moveset isn't as visual as the enemy attacks in Undertale, and because of the combat system's nature, an obvious moveset doesn't easily come to mind and it takes more creative effort to think of one.

I can't believe sans undertale "befriended" my mom.
 

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I don't mind Sans being in Smash and all, but did you ever think that he would be a little bit too OP?

Just saying. Maybe Napstablook instead? I mean... I wouldn't want to have a bad time.

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Frisk has plenty of moveset potential (honestly though, every character does) and ways to represent Undertale's battle system (like some potentially clever way to incorporate ACTing and Sparing). But since Frisk's moveset isn't as visual as the enemy attacks in Undertale, and because of the combat system's nature, an obvious moveset doesn't easily come to mind and it takes more creative effort to think of one.
I mean, he's got one for sure, like you said, it's just not represented well visually in the game's battle system.

You got hitting people with sticks and knives, punching with tough gloves, kicks with ballerina shoes, shooting with a pop gun, swatting attacks away with frying pans, doing...something...with a notebook...
 
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I don't think Sans would be a good choice to represent Undertale, seeing as he's almost impossible to provoke into fighting. The fact that he is in any way good in a scrap isn't something that should be common knowledge to anyone who hasn't been judged for committing genocide.

However, I do think Undertale deserves representation in the DLC roster, and I think that the character most suited to the position is TORIEL. I am prepared to post a thread advocating for her inclusion if anyone is interested.
Spoilers don't really seem to be a concern when choosing fighters; Lucina is a walking, talking spoiler for Fire Emblem Awakening. Plus, Sans is the most iconic Undertale character, and Frisk is the main character. Toriel, on the other hand, is neither. It'd be like if they decided to make Peppy Hare the only fighter for the Star Fox series. Sans is the most formidable fighter in Undertale, and the most popular and iconic character.

On a side note, it just occurred to me how hilarious/cool any given Undertale announcement splash could be. Think about it:

FRISK is determined to Smash!
SANS passes judgement!
TORIEL knows best!
PAPYRUS is preparing an attack!
UNDYNE suplexes her opponents!
METTATON.
ASGORE does what he must!
 
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After finishing Deltarune, I sat down and had a deep think about the mere possibility of Sans in Smash.

And I decided...

I want it. I really, really want it. It means music. It means a fascinating moveset. It means a beautiful stage. It means a character I love would get in, memes be damned. It might be a running gag, but sometimes running gags are just safe ways to wish for things that will never happen.

I support Sans wholly and unironically. Welcome to the Bone Zone. Or something like that. The idea of him being announced as DLC is so remote but I want it.
 

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Spoilers don't really seem to be a concern when choosing fighters; Lucina is a walking, talking spoiler for Fire Emblem Awakening.
I feel like it's less of a case of spoilers, and more of a case of being potentially disingenuous to the character and misrepresenting the game?
Really though, the only Undertale rep we should get is Asriel... as an echo fighter for Yoshi.
 

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Actually, though I still would prefer it if Sans got in, I think Frisk actually has a really good, unique potential moveset, using the variety of weapons they find throughout the game:

Neutral B/Neutral A/Up tilt/Up Smash/Forward Air: Knife
Side B: Burnt Pan multi-hit combo attack
Up B: Empty Gun rocket-jump move
Down B: ACT. Hard to land, but inflicts attack and defense debuffs on opponent
Down Tilt/DSmash/DAir: Ballet Shoes
Side Smash/S Tilt: Torn Notebook, grants super armor
Back Air/Up Air: Burnt Pan
Grabs/throws: Tough Gloves

Two Final Smashes, like Ryu/Ken:
1) Nearby opponent: FIGHT. Chara appears and the two of them deliver a death blow to their opponent
2) No nearby opponents: MERCY: Deals no damage, but stuns/sleeps all opponents for a time
 
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Hey guys, new tweets from Sakurai came in.


So, who are the lucky contestants? We'll just have to wait and see...
 

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Hey guys, new tweets from Sakurai came in.


So, who are the lucky contestants? We'll just have to wait and see...
"selection was made entirely by Nintendo." Interesting. Though if Pirahna Plant is what they came up with so far... I'm not filled with confidence, for Sans or for... anyone else people want, really. Here's hoping Pirahna Plant is just the cheap free fighter and we'll get more fitting choices in the paid DLC.
 
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If Nintendo goes for an Indy rep I feel like Sans is likely, but not as likely as Hollow Knight. Still, this is a BIG hypothetical, as good as Indies have been for Switch.
 

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Finally played Delta Rune last night. Still not wholly on board with a character, but I'd still like to see some Undertale content in Smash. Especially the music. Except now I want Delta Rune music too. Toby's compositions are just too good.
 

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Well boys, he didn't make it. But now that Deltarune is out, I'm sure that it'll only be a matter of time before Sakurai publicly discloses his endorsement and strong approval of the game and goes on to add in literally every single character from the game. So yeah, I'm much more hopeful now than I was before. Especially considering that, looking back on it now, Sans didn't really have a chance because Ness is already Sans, so they can't add him in twice, duh.
 
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I really really really would rather not have anything Undertale in Ultimate.

If he DOES get in, i hope he doesn't get a super OP extremely long-range lasers and bones because that would just make everything even worse.
 

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I really really really would rather not have anything Undertale in Ultimate.

If he DOES get in, i hope he doesn't get a super OP extremely long-range lasers and bones because that would just make everything even worse.
well buddy thanks for coming to a support thread to let us know, really good stuff
 

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well buddy thanks for coming to a support thread to let us know, really good stuff
Oh okay, next time i will make sure to not share my opinion like you and anyone else has the rights for.

Seriously though, what's the problem with sharing my opinion? PsychoJosh did it too yet it was okay. It's not like i'm directly telling you "yo stop wastin ur time with dis terrible charactor" nor it's like you need to accept it as the truth, just as a regular opinion not different from "Smash 4 sucks", "Brawl is slow" or "Melee is broken and unplayable"

Oh and please don't take this as aggresive or anything, it's quite hard to convey emotions with text.
 
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Oh okay, next time i will make sure to not share my opinion like you and anyone else has the rights for.

Seriously though, what's the problem with sharing my opinion? PsychoJosh did it too yet it was okay. It's not like i'm directly telling you "yo stop wastin ur time with dis terrible charactor" nor it's like you need to accept it as the truth, just as a regular opinion not different from "Smash 4 sucks", "Brawl is slow" or "Melee is broken and unplayable"

Oh and please don't take this as aggresive or anything, it's quite hard to convey emotions with text.
The problem is you came into a support thread and basically just said "nope" and left it at that. If you'd given your reasoning, we could have been having a legitimate conversation.
 
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