Gurren Lagann Mafia - Game Over - Who Lost the Most?

[Gova]

town strawberry is just a simplified way to say vanilla townie with a posting restriction.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Well dang go town.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Not even Ryker could get Moth into D2.

 

[T-block]

Lol...

Go town go

 

[JTB]

Not even Ryker could get Moth into D2.

Oh hi Glyph. Are you going to participate in this game?

I'm in the process of re-reading with our new flips.

 

[JTB]

I haven't finished looking at everyone, but here are some thoughts.

Glyph, Gova, Zen.

I believe scum hides within these three. Glyph and Zen have both buddied two people who have already flipped town (LAK and T-block) and Gova only showed up at the end of the Day to give his thoughts on the mason claim. Glyph looks the worst of the three as Zen and Gova have contributed a tiny bit, but it's nothing substantial.

Vote: Glyph

I need to re-read the reactions people had to Boat's claim as well, maybe I'll find something there.

I missed this question from Zen while looking at him too.

@JTB: Explain to me the purpose of #28, I'm very curious.

Inside joke between Kuz and myself. We promised each other the next game we were in with Ran, we would claim scum and ask him to elaborate on it.

 

[Tandora]

Not even Ryker could get Moth into D2.

At first I lol'ed at this post. But the more I thought about it, it feels too much like scum bragging about killing the doctor.

Glyph, I looked over your posts and I can say they have been 50%+ "I'll catch up later" style posts. I agree with JTB that I'd like to see come content from you.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Where did I buddy them? Show me, por favor.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Wow that would make me pretty dumb as scum to say that Tandora

 

[JTB]

Your entry post into the game struck me as buddying.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12999639#post12999639

 

[Tandora]

Wow that would make me pretty dumb as scum to say that Tandora

I've seen good, smart players make stupid moves like that, so why shouldn't I be suspicious of you doing it? =/

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

JTB, glad you're here dawg.

so dawg? what's up?

how come you refuse to even acknowledge my scum-read on you?

Anyways, these flips don't give me anything, so yeah, see above, back to pressuring JTB.

Vote: JTB

Tell me your D1 thoughts, i don't want now bull****, i want D1 thoughts, did you agree with the wagon on t-block? did you side with boat? etc. etc.

details.

 

[Tandora]

Been doing a "who's posted" reread starting at the bottom with the least posts first. Gonna post reactions as I go. Don't expect me to get to the top, I always try and tamper out.

Zen, I don't like how his first several posts were all V/LA simply because it gives us nothing. I realize if you're V/LA, you're V/LA so treat that statement as a null read. I like how when he does get caught up, he does give some reads.

Gova - I haven't played with him much, but his short posts are kinda on par of what I remember. Honestly, reads as a "helpful" null. He has made some comments and contributed, but it's not a lot to work with.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Tan, i don't think anyone saw boat dying.

We have a likely indy though.

 

[X1-12]

Vote: Tandora

We're this far into the game and you STILL have nothing to say beyond that you dont like inactives.

 

[JTB]

JTB, glad you're here dawg.

so dawg? what's up?

how come you refuse to even acknowledge my scum-read on you?

Anyways, these flips don't give me anything, so yeah, see above, back to pressuring JTB.

Vote: JTB

Tell me your D1 thoughts, i don't want now bull****, i want D1 thoughts, did you agree with the wagon on t-block? did you side with boat? etc. etc.

details.

So Soup, going to tunnel me all game? I'm beginning to remember why I really dislike playing with you sometimes.

I don't acknowledge your scum read because I don't know what the **** you are calling me scum for. All you do is say I'm scum and vote me, that's it.

D1 thoughts? The lynch on T-block was completely warranted, one-shot mason is impossible to prove, kuz in KSSU demonstrated that for us.

Those flips don't give you anything? Are you serious or are you just being lazy? Boat's miller claim sparked a ton of reactions, does that not give you anything? Same thing with LAK's posting restriction, does that not give you anything either?

Make a case on me Soup and maybe I'll take you seriously, just like with Tandora during D1.

 

[JTB]

Hey Raziek, I see you viewing. Do you agree with my 646?

 

[Gova]

Uh, Kuz wasn't a mason in KSSU lol and his ability was provable, it just didn't confirm his alignment. T-Block had the unfortune mishap of having his role misnamed as a one-way mason implies that he could talk to Ryker but Ryker could not respond. He was basically an informed townie. Even though T-Blocked flipped town, I'm still null on Joey/Tandora.

 

[JTB]

Oh, proving that he was town was what I meant, not role.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Vote: Tandora

We're this far into the game and you STILL have nothing to say beyond that you dont like inactives.

Why Tandora over JTB, whose first post this phase just shifted pressure onto all three blatantly inactive members of this game?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Boat's miller claim sparked a ton of reactions,

All of which were null and everyone collectively moved on with their lives.

does that not give you anything?

not unless someone had a different reaction

 

[asianaussie]

Yo Tandora, what's JTB lookin like to you right now? I know you're supposedly reading from inactive to active, but I'm just that impatient.

X1, did you have any opinions on Tandora's slot pre-replacement (ie. any thoughts on Joey)?

Don't care for inactives.

 

[Tandora]

Vote: Tandora

We're this far into the game and you STILL have nothing to say beyond that you dont like inactives.

X1, you know as well as I do that scum loves hiding as an inactive. It's easiest for me to start with the fewest posts. And I think it's legit to point out that you can be inactive and still contribute (or at least try) when you do post. Fluff posts have always bugged me.

And I think "nothing to say beyond my dislike of inactives" is unfair. I've given positions of other active players. I'm just trying to get the inactives moving NOW instead of it being almost the end of D2 and we still have no connection to them.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Your entry post into the game struck me as buddying.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12999639#post12999639

Think about what I said to him and what he flipped. I was trying to find out if he was a miller without alerting everyone else in the game of his role before I tried to make a case on him using him calling Ryker town very early on (like when Ryker had done nothing but claim and do that riddle gambit). The only thing that explained it was a) they were millers or b) they were scummates. Turns out, he actually was a one-way miller, which kind of poked a hole in all my plans, and here we are.

 

[Tandora]

Tan, i don't think anyone saw boat dying.

We have a likely indy though.

I agree with you 100%, Soup. (Strange to say. =3) Boat was confirmed town with T-block's flip and LAK had been very towny. I cannot imagine a town vig going for either.

Othering than being brownie townies, were Boat or LAK specifically suspicous of any particular player? Who would profit from silencing them? Who did our dead friends like as town? Defiinitely things I'm gonna be on a look out for my ISOs.

 

[Tandora]

Yo Tandora, what's JTB lookin like to you right now? I know you're supposedly reading from inactive to active, but I'm just that impatient.

X1, did you have any opinions on Tandora's slot pre-replacement (ie. any thoughts on Joey)?

Don't care for inactives.

AA, I'll give him a look pretty soon no problem. I doubt I'll be able to respond before 10pm EST on Tuesday because that's my date night with my husband and we have a no internet policy after work. I might be able to get online during lunch or a few minutes after work, but I doubt it would give me time to properly respond.

In exchange, what's *your* thoughts on X-1 and Gova? I'm not sure I've seen you take any stances yet.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Othering than being brownie townies, were Boat or LAK specifically suspicous of any particular player? Who would profit from silencing them? Who did our dead friends like as town? Defiinitely things I'm gonna be on a look out for my ISOs.

That kind of ignores:
1. D1 play is almost always based off hunches since we have no flips to work off of
2. Mafia and indies like to kill things that have to way to leading back to them.

So whatever you find would just be a whole mess of WIFOM.

 

[asianaussie]

AA, I'll give him a look pretty soon no problem. I doubt I'll be able to respond before 10pm EST on Tuesday because that's my date night with my husband and we have a no internet policy after work. I might be able to get online during lunch or a few minutes after work, but I doubt it would give me time to properly respond.

In exchange, what's *your* thoughts on X-1 and Gova? I'm not sure I've seen you take any stances yet.

If that's the case I'm surprised you haven't jumped on me. I haven't posted very much, probably less than Zen/Gova in terms of raw post-count.

I don't have much thought on X1 at the moment. I didn't like how he lashed out at people for ignoring what was obviously a joke post, but I can see how he might have had other intentions behind said joke post. This was freaking ages ago but is the only noteworthy activity I remember from him. Almost a non-presence if it weren't for him repeating his distaste of your focus on inactivity. Also, that one post where he says to ignore every post in the last however-many from T-block is rubbish.

Gova is just...Gova right now: though I haven't played many games all-up, each one with Gova in it has shown he makes calculated and sometimes-insightful posts less-than-regularly, and I believe he was town in all the finished games. None of the posts he has made are screaming town or scum to me, unless I missed one (which is possible, I guess).

So yep, both of the people you asked for are rather null to me, though X1 is leaning scum.

And I agree that an indy is about. Killing LAK had no value to town, and the only situation in which Boat would be a town-driven kill would be if somebody WIFOM'd that spiral anti-spiral thing from flavour (because Coco did not know of the antispiral bit in the series). Even if this was the case, it was a pretty bad town play.

 

[Tandora]

That kind of ignores:
1. D1 play is almost always based off hunches since we have no flips to work off of
2. Mafia and indies like to kill things that have to way to leading back to them.

So whatever you find would just be a whole mess of WIFOM.

What do you suggest instead then?

 

[Tandora]

If that's the case I'm surprised you haven't jumped on me. I haven't posted very much, probably less than Zen/Gova in terms of raw post-count.

Unless I missed you on the "who posted" page, then you have more posts than Zen and Gova since as I said I started at the bottom. And don't forget I did mention you a few times during D1 because you hadn't said much.

 

[X1-12]

Yo Tandora, what's JTB lookin like to you right now? I know you're supposedly reading from inactive to active, but I'm just that impatient.

X1, did you have any opinions on Tandora's slot pre-replacement (ie. any thoughts on Joey)?

Don't care for inactives.

Yes, its all in D1, I didn't like Joey at all and now Tan has replaced in I don't feel any better

@Washed: I already thought Tan's slot was scum, whereas JTB I had no previous read on

Tandora:

Uses meta to defend own playerslot, attacks Zen for inactivity, furthers the Zen attack using inactivity and meta Big read post, asks Raz to handhold, some town reads, mentions the activity levels of JTB, Glyph, AA, Gova, X1, Zen. Votes JTB for inactivity and fluff. Asks T-block to look over AA, Glyph and JTB. Furthers JTB scumread with meta, gives Gova some slack for inactivity but continues to pressure AA for it - States scum often hides within inactives, and there's no shame in pursuing them. Attacks WL for using .Gifs, tries to defend inactive hunting Restates town read on Raz says she will at least look over the Joey case. useless oneliner responses: (1 / 2). Defends against AA's attack Asks Ryker if he beleives T-block's claim. Asks T-block to not give up, asks for meta about T-block 1 liner response. Dumb attack at glyph for a joke, attacks glpyh for inactivity, follows up on the glyph attack based on the joke. Despite his inactivity, likes how Zen has made one post with a couple of reads in, null read on Gova based on meta

States she does more than hates on inactives.

Yeah, you've given some null and town reads, yeah you've asked questions about who believes what claim, but you've also spent bloody ages pushing inactives, justifying pushing inactives, claiming there's no shame in doing so without giving a single scumread or attack on someone you think is scum that's based on anything else.

 

[Shadow Moth]

Wow I'm super salty. Not even gonna log on to boatchouli. Go town. You better not **** up what we gave you.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

@Washed: I already thought Tan's slot was scum, whereas JTB I had no previous read on

Do you have a read on JTB now?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

@Soup: Readslist. Get at me.

 

[Tandora]

Yo Tandora, what's JTB lookin like to you right now? I know you're supposedly reading from inactive to active, but I'm just that impatient.

Ok, went through JTB and X1 on my reread.

On my reread I actually have more of a town read for JTB. I think he's been good about posting questions and opinions than my original read got.

X1 I mostly just get a stuck with his tunneling on my player slot. It's hard for me to objective when someone is insisting I'm wrong and I just feel everything I say convinces them I need to go. It's null for now, but I did note one line in his posts that really stood out to me.

@Zen: Every other time you think I'm scum you come at me guns blazing, why not this time? You sound apathetic about it - explain.

I bolded apathetic because it really stood out to me. I didn't recall Zen reacting to that taunt and did an ISO. And Zen hasn't responded at all. Not sure for reason, but I'd like to see what Zen has to say to that comment.

At this time, from the reads I've done, my hunch X1 is opposite faction from Zen and Gova. Both Zen and Gova did soft prods about X1 being scummy. I think it is probable if Zen or Gova flip scum, the other would flip scum too. Same for if they flip town.

 

[Xivii]

Still behind, I don't really have much to give at the moment. I will get up caught up though . Tomorrow night at the latest.

 

[Xivii]

I always see my name in Tandora's posts.

 

[Gova]

Tan, is there a reason why only Zen and I are linked by calling X1 scummy? Did you forget about all the other people voiced suspicions as well?

 

[X1-12]

Tandora you have a town or null read on every player in this game, correct?

At this time, from the reads I've done, my hunch X1 is opposite faction from Zen and Gova. Both Zen and Gova did soft prods about X1 being scummy. I think it is probable if Zen or Gova flip scum, the other would flip scum too. Same for if they flip town.

how do soft-prods = opposite alignments? How does two people with similar pushes = same alignment??? Are you on a scumteam with one of Zen/Gova trying to set-up mislynches?

 

[Tandora]

Tan, is there a reason why only Zen and I are linked by calling X1 scummy? Did you forget about all the other people voiced suspicions as well?

Recall I'm doing ISOs via Who posted starting with lowest post count and working my way up, so I'm reacting to what I've seen so far.