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Gurren Lagann Mafia - Game Over - Who Lost the Most?

Lovably Adorable Kanine

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Zen baby are you reading up on the thread? I would deff like to hear content from you before the Day Ends.

Lovelies, I want to make sure we get a little more from the inactives before the Day ends.
 

T-block

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Yeah, it's actually hilarious how everything lined up.

Raziek and Tandora please.

Assume I'm town during twilight discussion. Do I need to modkill myself to prove it?
 

T-block

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Making use of twilight. But I guess if I modkill myself you don't get twilight so never mind lol

I played pretty sloppily this game... the cases on me are actually legit, so don't look too much into those on my flip. I learned a lot between this and Ducktales though. Pre-emptively saying that you can expect my play to change next game.

GL town - back to genesis prep
 

Lovably Adorable Kanine

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Yeah, it's actually hilarious how everything lined up.

Raziek and Tandora please.

Assume I'm town during twilight discussion. Do I need to modkill myself to prove it?
Don't be dumb Tblock hunny, if you MK your self (lol metakirby) it'll cut twilight IF you are town.

Raz what? What is your read on him?

Also I want you to give reads on the rest of the cast (except X1 and JTB since you mentioned them already)
 

th3kuzinator

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surprise votecount

Votecount 1.6 [7/13]

Soupamario [1] - Mod
Glyph [0]
Zen [0]
Boatchouli (Ryker/Moth) [1] - Mod
asianaussie [0]
Lovably Adorable Kanine (RR/Ranmaru) [1] - Mod
Gova [0]
JTB [1] - Tandora
WashedLaundry [0]
T-block [5] - Boatchouli, Raziek, LAK, WL, Soup
Raziek [0]
X1-12 [0]
Tandora [1] - X1

Not Voting [6] - JTB, Glyph, Zen, asianaussie, Gova, T-block

Deadline has been set to July 16th at 11:59 PM EST!
 

T-block

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Man I'm an idiot. As in - Raziek and Tandora need to die.

Scum on Raziek and Tandora
Leaning scum on JTB, maybe Soup
Leaning town on X1
Town on Boat, WL

LAK would be leaning scum if it weren't for the posting restriction. Town as of now.

Null on Zen, Gova, Glyph

Null on AA, leaning town if I had to choose.
 

T-block

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Ignore the modkill question. That was me being dumb.

Reasons are out there already... they haven't changed.

LAK scum because of your defense of Joey, and I haven't really seen anything townie from you.

But take these posts with a grain of salt, because I'm putting no thought into them really.
 

Lovably Adorable Kanine

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What defense? Where is the scum motivation in that hunny?

No hunny, I will not ignore it. Why did you ask that? Also there isn't twilight so that wouldn't end well anyways.

Why did you bring up twilight baby?
 

Lovably Adorable Kanine

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It matters because it seems like he was trying to act like he was LYNCHED and was a TOWNIE giving up. (Even though he's at l-2)

I asked him to say WHY he really needed to prove something. I feel he was trying to FAKE a reaction, hunny bun.
 

asianaussie

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I'm only going to respond to this one post, but this conveniently covers T-block and Tandora anyway.

Zenny, Gova, X1, Boat, Glyph, and AA:

Thoughts on Tblock?
What are your new thoughts of Tandora (replacing Joey)
What are your thoughts of the other inactives?
Thoughts of recent conversations?

Thx sweeties. ;O
The Joey-case-dropping aside, I don't really like T-block that much. His claim is debunkable on a deeper level: it's questionable as to whether one-way mason Coco and spiral anti-spiral miller Nia are even in the same segment of the anime. I take the miller role is heavily linked with spiral anti-spiral, and given that Coco is only 'one-way' until like episode 10 (which isn't anywhere near the part where anti-spirals are introduced), I say that this particular claim doesn't hold quite as much water. The old one watching over Nia is certainly not Coco. That much crumbing seems like overcompensation and doesn't convince me at all. I wouldn't be surprised if the claim was true because I doubt kuz put that much effort into this (probs just wanted to use the role), but if you think about it, T-block's claims could actually fit the big bad villain of part 2 - watching over Nia from afar, etc.

Dunno if I want to put him at L-1. Meh.

vote: T-block

I don't like Tandora at all. Ignoring her slot's play (because that's what she's doing), that one post where she complained about WL posting gifs was absolute drivel and completely unhelpful. Ignore the damn pictures and focus on the slab of content posted at the bottom about not clearing people. In fact, that slab of content was exactly what she had asked for in a previous post: why people were voting her slot. I don't care how emotionally scarred one gets from mean pictures, working your scumreads from inactivity is poor play. She implied Zen was town in a reads post. Zen has been just as inactive as me, and I was read as scum. I came into this game 5 days late (not to point fingers kuz, but I PM'd you about this two days before the game started, and a whole 6 days before you told everyone I had a V/lA) and was busy from then.

If she had really been reading and re-reading she should've noted and been able to at least defend on a basic level her slot's play. I want her to analyse her own slot's play.

Glyph is mean cuz he ignored my buddy request, but null. Nothing on Gova. Meh on X1 (I know I should have something but honestly, nothing right now). Meh on Zen.

I probably promised to re-read a certain person but forgot.
 

Xivii

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I'm such a slow reader. Stopping at #300 for now.

Joey is looking town. Somewhere around 280 set that for me. His fret over Boat's "gambit" was silly, but that's just Joey.

Lak is obvtown and constantly viewing the thread. His reaction to Boat posting the fake rule was lovely.

@Boat: What were you expecting more from this? You got upset that Raziek interrupted, but you already had LAK's response. I don't see what more you were hoping for.


@X1: y u so scum?

This dude needs to get lynched.

@JTB: Explain to me the purpose of #28, I'm very curious.

@Laundry: #109. How did LAK's claim add uneccessary Wiffum? It was obvious what their claim was, I'm not understanding what you're so upset about here.
 

Boatchouli

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I'm such a slow reader. Stopping at #300 for now.
Dammit zen. Get caught up and put your vote somewhere (hint hint).

Joey is looking town. Somewhere around 280 set that for me. His fret over Boat's "gambit" was silly, but that's just Joey.
Man **** that. Joey is so scum. ESPECIALLY ON A T-BLOCK TOWN FLIP.
On a scum flip he's cool though so whatevs.

@Boat: What were you expecting more from this? You got upset that Raziek interrupted, but you already had LAK's response. I don't see what more you were hoping for.
If you mean #83 that wasn't a response. It didn't answer anything. I was trying to get a town clear on him by confirming his posting restriction.
 

Tandora

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Tandy darling I do feel you should defend the slot and address the case because Joey WAS your slot and you have to pick up for his slack. People have been attacking you and if you don't address it, it leaves a gap in trying to get a better read on you and they can't get answers from your slot. I know it is hard but I am sure you can address Joey's actions and give thoughts on it, and state if you would do that or if you wouldn't, and why you think it was scummy or not scummy etc. It would help to get a better grasp of your alignment.

Also did you reply to JTB yet?
I'll try to go over the thread again and see what I can do. I fear I'm gonna spend a lot of time rationalizing a player when I don't even know why he did what he did. My initial reaction is if Joey was flip flopping, why is that weird on D1? If people were giving him legit reasons why his stances were bad, it seems rational to me that he would back off, reconsider, and possibly change his mind.

And I thought I had responded to everything up to this point. What question from JTB do you think I missed?
 

Tandora

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Of course I'm standing by my miller claim. I am a miller.
Does that affect your read on us? It shouldn't. It should only affect the night actions. Daddy is just something I remember my character saying in an episode. Don't think too hard about.
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It's more of I wanted to make sure it wasn't another one of your famous gambits and I had my notes correct on that matter at least. Thanks.
 

Tandora

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Also, regarding Tandora's request to hold my hand:

Not at this time. Last person who asked me to hold my hand was scum. There will be no verbal confirmation of "hand-holding".
That's okay, Raziek. I felt my asking was more important than you accepting.
 

#HBC | Laundry

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@Laundry: #109. How did LAK's claim add uneccessary Wiffum? It was obvious what their claim was, I'm not understanding what you're so upset about here.
His posting restriction was essentially softclaiming a character, not a role. Character claims are always a handbag of WIFOM because it could just as easily be a safeclaim rather than the actual role (read: I'm not asking for LAK's role). They are, essentially, unprovable, as you have to weigh their actions with what they claimed and, unlike roleclaims, you have no night actions to confirm their honesty.

In short, it could potentially clear a scummy slot with no real way of checking it. After reading the *****'s play, I'm okay with them.
 

th3kuzinator

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Votecount 1.7 [7/13]

Soupamario [1] - Mod
Glyph [0]
Zen [0]
Boatchouli (Ryker/Moth) [1] - Mod
asianaussie [0]
Lovably Adorable Kanine (RR/Ranmaru) [1] - Mod
Gova [0]
JTB [1] - Tandora
WashedLaundry [0]
T-block [6] - Boatchouli, Raziek, LAK, WL, Soup, aa
Raziek [0]
X1-12 [0]
Tandora [1] - X1

Not Voting [5] - JTB, Glyph, Zen, Gova, T-block

Deadline has been set to July 16th at 11:59 PM EST!
 

Tandora

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I don't like Tandora at all. Ignoring her slot's play (because that's what she's doing), that one post where she complained about WL posting gifs was absolute drivel and completely unhelpful. Ignore the damn pictures and focus on the slab of content posted at the bottom about not clearing people. In fact, that slab of content was exactly what she had asked for in a previous post: why people were voting her slot. I don't care how emotionally scarred one gets from mean pictures, working your scumreads from inactivity is poor play. She implied Zen was town in a reads post. Zen has been just as inactive as me, and I was read as scum. I came into this game 5 days late (not to point fingers kuz, but I PM'd you about this two days before the game started, and a whole 6 days before you told everyone I had a V/lA) and was busy from then.

If she had really been reading and re-reading she should've noted and been able to at least defend on a basic level her slot's play. I want her to analyse her own slot's play.
First off, I regret my knee jerk reaction to WL's post. It was generally useless, but that was my reaction. I don't want to play emotional and irritable as I have been in previous games, so I hope to get away from that and have tried to do as much in my last few posts.

My only excuse is I felt some time crunch and tried to jump into the game feet first instead of taking my time to solidify thoughts. I mentioned that I had been casually reading the game for a reason.

Second, I never intended for my posts to imply Zen is town. In fact, my first post said I had my eye on him specifically. I had not caught his V/LA and so on my second post I noted that and mostly mused I hope he is town.

Third, for my re-read I did not read Joey's posts because as I said it's the slot I took so I know that my alignment is town. Two, Joey posted a lot. I could catch up faster by generally skimming over it. And three, his posts were from what I saw generally AtE and overreacting to LAL. Neither of those were things I could rationalize or justify other than Joey's an emotional player who clings to LAL being right all the time. I disagree about LAL as a 100% policy simply because I've seen too many games where that's not true.

Finally, because of my work schedule, I generally have to respond to posts as I get to them rather than read all the way to the end. For example, I did that this morning, so I had not seen T-block's reveal when I responded to individual posts. This is intended as a preemptive point, not a reaction to anyone saying anything to me.

I'll give my thoughts on T-block when I am caught up.
 

Tandora

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Man **** that. Joey is so scum. ESPECIALLY ON A T-BLOCK TOWN FLIP.
On a scum flip he's cool though so whatevs.
This kinda bothers me. Do you believe T-block's claim now or not? Because it seems to me that you're kinda covering all possibilities with this statement.
 

Tandora

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Inactive, inactive, inactive, inactive, guy on the lynchblock who is going V/LA.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
I lol'ed.

T-block, why do you not want to defend yourself? You've committed to this game, why crap out now? If you're really town, don't lay down and die. Especially in the spirit of this game. Grit your teeth and get back in the fight! (Even if you are old man co-co and only have 3 of them.)

For people who've played with T-block, is this behavior something he would normally do? Meaning would he be so involved in a game and then when the vote is on him just kinda shrug and give up?
 

Raziek

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He's going to Genesis 2. He's probably on the flight right now. He no longer has reason to care, when he's going to a huge tourney, and it's not worth his time to defend himself.
 

T-block

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Posting from the airport lol...flight got delayed twice wooooo

I do apologize, and ordinarily I would condemn town giving up like this, but I spent all of last night preparing for the trip, and expected to have no time today to defend myself. I do want to continue this game, and I've already invested a lot of time into it, but I don't expect you to let me live after I did show some questionable behavior. If I live to Day 2, rest assured that I will play better. Plus, in this case, my flip actually helps town so its all good.

IN THE MEANTIME, Tandora, you said you said replacing in allows you to have good reads because you read all posts without bias, yet in your last post you said you didn't read joeys posts? Something doesn't line up.

vote: tandora

K, boarding now

:phone:
 
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