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there was this one time I towerdived someone with Pantheon mid. They flashed behind their tower after I W'd and then I clicked to back off the tower and literally couldn't move because I was surrounded by creeps -_-. **** that **** yo.That 10 second creep block mid. I will never forget.
If you are offensive spec u can start with 9% LS just from quints and masteries.
Thanks for the math, Mogwai.
Thanks for the math, Mogwai.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Pretty sure I'm buying Ahri just for her dance.
Hylian, open boots and three pots. Then grab a Philo stone on first trip back. Should make up for health regen hit. Not going to help with the damage reduction though.
so they hit your base HP regen by 2 HP/5, and your solution is to invest your first 800 gold into 22.5 HP/5... what?Hylian, open boots and three pots. Then grab a Philo stone on first trip back. Should make up for health regen hit. Not going to help with the damage reduction though.
Fizz should still be fine as far as I can tell, all the nerfs are pretty low key. He should still be able to bully people around by right clicking on them a lot. If the 2 HP/5 @ level 1 is too brutal, I think the real solution is to just sub out 1 quint for an HP regen quint.
idk maybe I'm just playing bad but look at my match history lol there is a huge difference pre and post patch. I just don't have the damage to kill people before I die now, and I pretty much always die first. He's not bad outside of lane still but in lane I played against a vlad and a karthus and they both destroyed me. Before the patch I was consistently getting scores like 13-2-16 etc and now I'm just failing lol.
Could just be because I'm so used to his old damage I'm calculating risks badly but still :/ I haven't won a single game with him post patch and I was absolutely destroying people before it. I'm just going to wait awhile probably playing bad.
yea, I mean, you're drawing broad conclusions from anecdotal evidence, not a good idea. He lost 2 HP/5, and paltry damage on his active seastone trident in exchange for a more reliable ult (I see the changes as an improvement, as the death fizzling and spell immune fizzling were bigger problems for me than hitting vlads who are pooling and being un-QSSable was an advantage). Sounds good to me. I don't care about the urchin strike AP ratio though cause I've never subscribed to the line of thinking that Fizz should be built AP, but either way, that's just a 0.1 ratio reduction, which is pretty small. I dunno, they were pretty gentle with him imho.
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You don't build fizz AP mogwai?
what do you build then?
what do you build then?
What is your build?
I usually go tanky AP: RoA/Abyssal or Hourglass/Ryalis/LichBane/GA or Deathcap
boots -> wriggle's + wit's end -> trinity -> GA.
His base damages and mobility are crazy strong so I just build and play like a bruiser. AP bursts harder ofc, but I feel like I do more sustained damage and outlast everyone in fights better, which I think is Fizz's strongest niche because of how Seastone trident scales with missing HP and how well the little ****er chases. Fizz is such a great cleanup character. My biggest problem with AP is that the strongest AP scaling items don't give terribly meaningful tankiness so I find that you have to pick your spots very very carefull so that you don't get CCed and die instantly later on, whereas bruiser Fizz can bait and initiate much more safely.
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I'm going to try that when I get home.
I was just going to build like I build Irelia if I didn't read that though. probably would've worked still LOL
I was just going to build like I build Irelia if I didn't read that though. probably would've worked still LOL
LOL Mogwai I just tried your build and went 5/0/3, was a lot less frustrating.
Edit: What would you get for your 6th item? IE? PD? BT?
Also if it goes on long enough what would you sell wriggles for? I went 21/9/0 and a tankish rune page.
Edit: What would you get for your 6th item? IE? PD? BT?
Also if it goes on long enough what would you sell wriggles for? I went 21/9/0 and a tankish rune page.
I wonder if you have to pay money to upgrade Viktor's Hex Core.
BVeil or QSS probably. Games don't really go long enough to knock me off wriggle's, but I guess you could swap it for atma's or BT or something, I dunno, never really had 1500+ gold lying around to temp me to sell my wriggle's to upgrade late game tbh.
DallasPhat
Smash Master
This is mogwai build for 90% of his solo top. (He's done this on pantheon and GP!!!)
Pretty sure I seen Mogwai build that on his AP champs too, because he can.
Also, Dphat. Maybe now that Udyr passive got nerfed he won't get insta-banned/picked and you can get him more in ranked (because people are dumb, not because he's weak)
Also, Dphat. Maybe now that Udyr passive got nerfed he won't get insta-banned/picked and you can get him more in ranked (because people are dumb, not because he's weak)
I did it once on GP. Also did it once of Jarman. Never done it on Pantheon. SUCK IT DPHAT.
really rare that you can do any better with the item slot tbh. unless you did something stupid like building wit's end in a standard DPS build.
So is that your dog on the sig?
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There's much better bans than Udyr <_<Pretty sure I seen Mogwai build that on his AP champs too, because he can.
Also, Dphat. Maybe now that Udyr passive got nerfed he won't get insta-banned/picked and you can get him more in ranked (because people are dumb, not because he's weak)
I ****ing wish.
My future corgi has such high expectations, I feel kinda bad for the poor guy.
Oh I know, but Dphat said he got banned a lot at 1800s so he wasn't getting to play him, and now he can again!
DallasPhat
Smash Master
Frequent bans are udyr skarner shaco and rammus .
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I'd say top 8 bans hands down are skarnar, shaco, rammus, kass, morg, sion, trynd, and udyr.Frequent bans are udyr skarner shaco and rammus
Faithkeeper
Smash Lord
I built wits end on trsitana once after IE (but before PD) because they were really AP heavy. Was that a good/bad idea?
Terrible idea. PD is miles and miles better for your DPS and wit's end's effect with a low HP pool is completely negligible.
Faithkeeper
Smash Lord
Yeah, I thought it might be bad because I'll pretty much die if I get touched regardless. Thanks for the confirmation.
Vyke
Smash Champion
Run Galio mid, poop on any AP that goes mid
run galio top, don't lose lane and farm buttloads.
he's got really good poke on fairly low cooldown, a strong shield, and an aoe initiation ult.
pretty fawking good
run galio top, don't lose lane and farm buttloads.
he's got really good poke on fairly low cooldown, a strong shield, and an aoe initiation ult.
pretty fawking good
Would RoA be a good item on him? I only build him With Magic res items with a thornmail.