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Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

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QSS is better against CC, but Banshee's is better against straight up damage. Plus, it builds from Catalyst, which is great for laning.
 

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They didn't have enough room in the client for assets for three maps... or at least they felt it unnecessarily bloated the client. And everyone was posting last halloween that they wanted to keep the Hallowing map. So they let the community vote and they decided to keep that one over the winter map. Although I don't remember the last time I saw that map so I'm assuming they kicked both out until their respective seasons.
 

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i hate brand

i play a lot of ap chars (fate, veig, grag, rumble, swain, malz, etc) and i consider a score, like, 9-4 to be a pretty good game. brand is BY FAR the easiest champ to absolutely destroy with though and it's WAY TOO EASY TO DO SO.

i hate it most because pretty much all brand players think they're hot ****

don't understand how ANY brand can't get super duper fed, barring they're forced to lane against kass or something



ignore the mundo game btw, other team had 2 ignites and neither was ever on me, swag
 

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brand's just dumb lol

i really don't know why riot doesn't make adjustments to champions like that

like, even just taking a bit of damage off one of his skills is better than doing nothing at all, when brand is obviously one of the most powerful champs in the game

i think they should balance with lots of small changes instead of doing the occasional big change

edit: speaking of mages, swain hasn't been free since MAY

i can't think of a non-stealth hero who's been deprived of free week status for so long

maybe riot knows how good he is and doesn't want people catching on? i sure don't ;)
 

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Sona is by no means the worst support.
Her + MF just ain't cool.

She's one of those supports who can actually handle an aggressive lane. Which says a lot because no one is playing anything bar taric and alistar.
Soraka + some ranged carries can handle the aggressive lanes better, but Sona has that slightly better affinity with the 550 ranged carries (like Kog or Cait with Soraka can handle most taric/alistar + other ranged carries).

Oh, I've like never won against a Kog + Sona lane. ****'s amazing.
 

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Kog Sona? Zilean Jax

That's right. Jax.

All things are possible through him.
 

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Kog Sona? Zilean Jax

That's right. Jax.

All things are possible through him.
I don't deny this.
Zilean probably will make a comeback if the Melee Assassin meta gains any more steam.

Haro I'm zilean, I have like 600 damage burst at level 9.
Haro I'm Jax. I have like 90,000 damage burst at level 2.
 

jpak

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HERE let me help you
zil is strong WHEREVER
he cant comeback IF HE NEVER LEFT
 

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If a ranged carry dies, bringing him back is extremely powerful. IEM China Vayne + Yorick easily attests to that. The only time your scenario is true (@ Shaya) is if:

1. Team was already getting ***** in that fight, in which case you probably will lose the fight regardless (Mumu ults in, Sona ults, Vayne/Akali/Brand burst you down).

2. Carry was out of position to where he was a free kill to begin with.

Otherwise no, it's not clear that reviving a carry surely means they die again right off the bat.

If their team CAN'T get a strong initiation on you and has to get through multiple members of the team to get at the carry/eat all that damage to make sure they die and you get to bring them back, congrats you've made that carry incredibly powerful.
 

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Well they did leave him alone for awhile but buffed other champs/came out with Talon/made Gunblade good.
 

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And DMG, how much stronger is zilean ulting akali over most other ranged carries?
For the most part, an assassin can go in, blow his load, die (but have a zilean ult), and when he respawns is either able to blow his load again or has a get away of some sort.

Ranged carry's steroids are likely still on cd, a lot of ranged carries have escapes, but not many are anywhere near as powerful as an assassin's disruption/get away abilities.

Also for the love of ****ing god, riot's client has stopped putting your lol screen on top when its your turn to pick a champion...
that's the second time I've gone into a game with random now -.-
 

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Also for the love of ****ing god, riot's client has stopped putting your lol screen on top when its your turn to pick a champion...
that's the second time I've gone into a game with random now -.-
i KNEW it wasn't just me!

i've randomed like 4 times so far.

reeeeeeally annoying -_-

i might make a bug report or something
 

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Question wasn't about whether ulting carry or assassin was stronger, but that getting your carry back is pretty powerful and they aren't dead weight because "they'll just die again" after you ult. Even given your scenario, the assassin is more likely to die or at the very least get "swarmed" than the ranged carry since doing their job naturally requires them to be closer to the enemy team. Akali diving in and getting revived is a LOT more likely to be swarmed by the enemy team than the Ashe sitting at the back being babysit.


Either way, it would be silly to assume that reviving a ranged carry in reasonable circumstances will be a waste because they will just completely blow up again on spot.
 

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I don't think I said otherwise.
But if a ranged carry is grossly out of position to instantly die at the start of a fight...

All I'm saying is, that while you will always ult your carry, his ult has a lot better affinity with melee rapers, as they are likely to be in the line of fire a lot more often than a ranged carry. A ranged carry who is in the line of fire is out of position (most of the time, I know an ezreal, karthus, lux and nocturne could really make any position for a ranged carry silly).

Contrast soraka or janna's ult to zilean in terms of saving a carry. Janna's isn't about saving your melee assassin. Soraka's is also strong but using it for only one person can be a waste (her non ult heal is quite strong though, but she can often put herself in a bad position for wanting to keep in range of her melee), and it likely won't save a melee who just blew up 2-3 people and did their part so they can do their part again in 10 seconds.
 

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I must ask, after my last game.... do any of you remember a game where you finished your first full item in a ridiculously fast time?

I just got a 12:30 complete Trin Force with boots as Wukong. The incompetency of the opposing lane was astounding... and beautiful.
 

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Well, I once farmed a 14 minute death cap with malzahar (with boots)

Without any kills or assists,
nor towers taken
nor any dragons taken either.

I counted a missed creep during that entire time. Yes, singular.
 

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I remember pushing into the first inhibitor in middle in a normal game within 20 minutes. Neither tower on either end had been destroyed yet. It was kinda weird going in so deep and not getting ganked. :applejack:
 
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