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being a strong laner means being able to prevent the other champion from farming safely or effectively zoning them out of a solo lanes exp
and yet, neither of them seem as stupid as Cassiopeia is right now to me. note, I still think she's a terrible character, but goddamn her laning is stupid. 1 Q @ level 2 = 435 damage with 0 AP from Q->EEEEEE... da**** is that ****? oh and the AP scaling on that burst is 4.2:1 (0.9 on Q, 0.55 * 6 on your 6 Es). Goddamn, what a stupid ***** in lane, and to think we used to complain about Urgot hitting an E...old kat was <3
old panth was a *****
but she can't.
top lane play as a Melee is almost entirely about burst trades. it's the reason why characters who burst and self heal on the same ability are so dominant at the moment. Irelia will simply get ruined by Udyr, WW, Yorick, Alistar, Gragas and even Jarman (who's useless in the top lane meta because he gets ruined by all those other jerks other than Gragas anyway). Then you look at the non-melee characters like Annie and Swain and **** and not only are their burst numbers higher, but also being ranged means that Irelia necessarily must pick bad spots to fight them in lane (where she is eating more creep aggro than her opponent), so it makes negotiating good burst trades literally impossible.
last time an irelia did that TO MY PANTHEON (the character who is hardest countered by cloth + 5 pots in the entire game), she got destroyed and didn't get her wriggles until like 13 minutes or something. cloth + 5 hasn't been a good opening since they removed cloth from HoG's recipe.
Irelia's sustaining isn't that good, she's severely outclassed by so many characters it's silly.
zzz, w/e, I don't even know why I bother responding to your posts.
Had a AD tf with teleport and revive one game in my low lvl games
yeah the combo with their passives adds so much burst.
as has been said many times before, me fighting most other smashers to the death in LoL wouldn't prove anything.
I'm pretty sure I used my mod power to confirm this as false in terms of SWF awhile ago.
not sure if I'm excited or not TBH.
errrr, not that I don't appreciate people taking my side, but you're just saying wrong things here. Look at lanewick, literally all he does is "lifesteal" even though technically none of it is lifesteal. Yet he's still stupid strong in lane. I mean, the real problems with irelia in lane are:
For those that didn't know, this includes magic damage dealt, like with Wriggles 500 dmg proc and Wit's End. This is one of the reasons lane udyr is so strong right know.
WW does not have do sit and do this in an aggro lane, though. He can take a poke from say Caitlyn and then Q a creep and back off if he has to, wheras Irelia can just back off with her current HP and hope she doesnt eat more Qs.
I was under the impression wriggles proc did true damage.
