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Thanks for the responses.

I'm looking into Anivia now, but I'm not sure what her standard build is. I was thinking of going Tear-RoA, Deathcap and Void and then maybe something else like Hourglass or Liandry's but I'm not sure. She doesn't seem too dependent on CDR which is nice.
 

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Thanks for the responses. I'm looking into Anivia now, but I'm not sure what her standard build is. I was thinking of going Tear-RoA, Deathcap and Void and then maybe something else like Hourglass or Liandry's but I'm not sure. She doesn't seem too dependent on CDR which is nice.
 

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I think Azir is one of the most broken champs in the whole game. How on earth did he get past Riot's champion design team...?
 

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I think Azir is one of the most broken champs in the whole game. How on earth did he get past Riot's champion design team...?
They bugged out of his business. When Azir was released, there were so many bugs in his kit that people stopped playing it because the bugs were game changing. They just fixed most if not all of the bugs.

The hype is around Faker possibly picking him up and pulling a 1 v. 5 with him at OGN.

He also supposedly has a weak early game and has a hard time with burst assassins in laning phase which are currently the meta in addition to long range poke oriented champions like Ziggs and Xerath. Most assassins in meta are also sub-par until 6, however when they hit six they usually complete their burst and core damage item for all ins while Azir has to save his ultimate for mostly reactive purposes unless he has reliable jungle presence to coordinate ganks.

Most comps require building around him as a Protect the King setup because his damage output is more centered around sustained damage much like an AD Carry rather than built around burst. He synergizes well with a disengage support like Janna or even someone with hard cc like Lulu while also providing some level of poke potential. A tanky character is a must. Also in Solo Q, most people don't work together well in team fights or are willing to sacrifice for someone who has been pressured in lane or isn't fed. Because of Azir's relatively low early game potential to secure kills, most tanks will not always think about offering a peel and if assassins are doing it right they will have opportunities to roam, kill Azir, or secure vision.
 
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In a straight up all in at 6 he'll lose, but he gets so much free harass before that that you're often too low to go in.

Also the better I get at Velkoz the more I realise how insane his damage is. I've dropped him to support because of his crap laning against assassins and his lack of safety against crap like Yi but I'm still doing WTF hypecarry DPS. I went 0 1 10 one game and managed to outdamage our 10 0 3 Anivia lol.
 
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Xpecial said:
Yeah, actually we were doing really well in the bot lane, mainly because we could both speak English. And compared to Piglet, yeah he was... Piglet is really strong mechanically, but not being able to speak the same language was actually a huge detriment for us. But with Keith, obviously we can talk a lot more, explain strategies, I can tell him, "Hey don't die. I'm roaming. Don't die." And he will listen, and we actually did very well. I was a bit skeptical at first because we actually tried out Keith a long time ago, about a month ago before we got Piglet and let's just say it wasn't the great showing ever.



Today and yesterday he did very well. I'm really proud of him. So good eye Keith.
 

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It's funny because the D.E.A. just lost a case where they had to reimburse a convicted cocaine dealer $134,000 for impersonating them on Facebook for an investigation. And yet people do it all the time.
 
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Does anyone know if MMR gained/lost in the preseason counted in the soft reset, because I'm pretty sure they said it did. They said it would affect your placing but considering my placing I feel like it didn't.
 

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I was silver 1 around 20 LP at the end of the season

during the pre season i got to GoldV

Went 6-4 in my placements and got placed to silv1
 

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Something something Pobelter got Plat 1
Despite master tier addition can people really not get placed in diamond? Rito is dumb and if I ever get back into League I'm not looking forward to getting 7-3 or even higher in placements and only getting plat 1 or lower.
 

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I'm aware it's always been like that





















Until Master tier was added as a 2nd diamond basically.
Riot might as well allow people to be placed in D5-3 at the most if they do well in their placements and earn the D1-Challenger.
 

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I agree, which is the actual problem with Riot's policy atm. They want a clean slate but the MMR is a soft reset. So it's more like a sorta-dirty slate lmao
 
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It's like washing dishes only using water and a fork to scrape off anything on it.
Riot half asses a lot of things they do, even skins tend to be lackluster outside of the splash.
 

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Lots of T8 fans re: Team 8 v. TSM. Spoiler: clicking on the tag reveals the winner.



My face when I discover Riot accepts Subway, CVS Pharmacy, Sports Authority, Burger King, and Shell Gas Gift Cards to purchase RP. Really. What is going on here.
 
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I was in S4 at the end of season 4, but during the preseason I climbed to S2. In my provs I went 3 7 and got dropped to B2.

I know my provs were bad but S2 to B2 seems pretty harsh for that. I'm wondering if it didn't count my climb to S2, because S4 to B2 seems more reasonable.
 

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Just saw the patch notes.
It's quite ****ing amazing how Riot just wants people to stop playing their game. Honestly it's littered with huge unneeded nerfs everywhere.
DFG removed and we gonna buff laners that use it.

Let's just give ahri movement speed on Q and 20 extra damage on charm while removing 20% extra damage from charm. To compensate now .5 of ap instead of .35 :>
Fizz? Nerf everything about him.
Man Cass had some play in the OGN and LCS, we should prolly fix that...
Rek'sai is strong I guess, but we at Riot
Nerf.

Or how about tristana? they kicked her peg down a little too hard granted she was dumb, let's throw her a bone and give her a visual update, BUT ALSO still nerf her stats and damage even more.

Junglers?
4 camps if you wanna get your upgrade while that costs more too, hope you love being starved.

Don't worry though, *jingles keys* look at the shiny new 10+ skins the past month, you guys like this right? If not that look at the models of old characters! Looking like doter everyday :3

I'm almost glad I stopped playing. Buffs to shaco jungle by making it better to invade now and all aside, even I draw a line where they did too much.
 
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I was in S4 at the end of season 4, but during the preseason I climbed to S2. In my provs I went 3 7 and got dropped to B2. I know my provs were bad but S2 to B2 seems pretty harsh for that. I'm wondering if it didn't count my climb to S2, because S4 to B2 seems more reasonable.
3 and 7 is pretty bad. If you were on purple side and you lost against someone who was placed in bronze in blue side, then matchmaking considered you being a similar level to the bronze lowbie. If you got put on purple side again, but this time had to lane against even lower bronze then the matchmaking system essentially thought your initial ranking was an overestimation. On the other hand, if you won blue side games against higher ranked silvers than matchmaking was considering the fact that it might have underrated you. As a general rule of thumb, it was obligatory to win your purple side games and you should have won some of your blue side games to at least keep the same ranking.
 

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Also it was a soft reset. If they did the same thing like they did in S4 then they added "x" amount of MMR to your current MMR and then averaged it out when it came to placement games. Going 3-7 @ this point in time is bad considering people go 6-4 & 7-3 and still end up in a lower division. What's most important is that you look at which divisions you were laning into as an S2 in pre-season versus the divisions you were laning against in your provisional series if you want to make a case that there is a huge discrepancy in the system. It also doesn't help that new accounts and smurfs that were saved for S5 start off at around 1200 elo which is usually a higher elo than most people who play regularly and are in silver after the soft reset.
 
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Also it was a soft reset. If they did the same thing like they did in S4 then they added "x" amount of MMR to your current MMR and then averaged it out when it came to placement games. Going 3-7 @ this point in time is bad considering people go 6-4 & 7-3 and still end up in a lower division. What's most important is that you look at which divisions you were laning into as an S2 in pre-season versus the divisions you were laning against in your provisional series if you want to make a case that there is a huge discrepancy in the system. It also doesn't help that new accounts and smurfs that were saved for S5 start off at around 1200 elo which is usually a higher elo than most people who play regularly and are in silver after the soft reset.
When I was in S2 I was versing high silvers and golds. Half the time I duo'd with my gold cousin, so that would bump the average MMR up.

The problem with the system is that luck in those games arbitrarily has more weight than in other games. For example I had 2 4v5s, and 3 games where my teammates fed multiple kills in lane then I'd just get camper by the jungler because I wasn't losing lane. I also had another game where my lanes fed and I had to support so there wasn't too much I could do.

Everyone has 10 game streaks where they're the only one on their team who doesn't lose lane hard, but the fact that the bad luck happened in these games rather than later in the season means I arbitrarily get punished harder. If I'd had decent luck in provs then got that bad luck later, I'd still be Silver. But because I had 2 4v5s and 4 hard feeder games I'm now Bronze and need to win tens of games to get where I would have been if I had the bad luck later on in the season.
 

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yeah but u have to start somewhere. the soloq logic has always been that if u deserve it, u can climb. if u can hold ur own against low gold u should carry the **** out of bronze ****ters and get back in mid silver within a month. gl
 

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When I was in S2 I was versing high silvers and golds. Half the time I duo'd with my gold cousin, so that would bump the average MMR up.

The problem with the system is that luck in those games arbitrarily has more weight than in other games. For example I had 2 4v5s, and 3 games where my teammates fed multiple kills in lane then I'd just get camper by the jungler because I wasn't losing lane. I also had another game where my lanes fed and I had to support so there wasn't too much I could do.

Everyone has 10 game streaks where they're the only one on their team who doesn't lose lane hard, but the fact that the bad luck happened in these games rather than later in the season means I arbitrarily get punished harder. If I'd had decent luck in provs then got that bad luck later, I'd still be Silver. But because I had 2 4v5s and 4 hard feeder games I'm now Bronze and need to win tens of games to get where I would have been if I had the bad luck later on in the season.
I don't think you understand the issue with silver which is odd coming from you playing in silver II. The issue with silver is that most of the first time ranked players get put into silver division either IV or V which puts you at a discrepancy when you have new silvers on your team versus someone from bronze who has played hundreds and hundreds of ranked games to make it to silver IV or V. Personally I played ranked after I finish my Tier I runes and got placed into silver despite going 3-7 in my placement games. As someone who plays in silver, you should expect that you need to carry in order to win games and even higher divisions onwards.
 

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yeah but u have to start somewhere. the soloq logic has always been that if u deserve it, u can climb. if u can hold ur own against low gold u should carry the **** out of bronze ****ters and get back in mid silver within a month. gl
Bronze is harder to carry out of than Silver or Gold. All three levels are weak mechanically, but in Silver and Gold if you win lane normally your team will follow you and close out the game properly. Even if you win lane in Bronze you have to hope they know how to close, and most of the time they don't. When I was trying in Silver (ie. playing my better champs) I climbed way quicker than I did in Bronze, and I was averaging 15+ kills on certain champs in Bronze.

Most people who climb out of Bronze will tell you Silver is easier to climb, and Gold is too.
 

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nah u climb bronze by playing a good splitpusher, crushing lane (or lanes if ur jungler), and then splitting to win the game. alternatively just play a mid assassin and control every fight that happens ever
 

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My CS? Dragons, towers, inhibitors, barons? Es no importante.

I killed the enemy team 100 times though.
 
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My CS? Dragons, towers, inhibitors, barons? Es no importante.

I killed the enemy team 100 times though.
Uh people with the most kills normally have the most CS and they can't take objectives if their team is too dumb to co operate that's what people like me are complaining about
 
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My friend went 0-10 in promos and dropped from Plat 5 to Bronze 1. So far he's already climbed to Silver 3, but yeah.
 
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Uh people with the most kills normally have the most CS and they can't take objectives if their team is too dumb to co operate that's what people like me are complaining about
If you are that fed then you can take objectives by yourself.
 

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My friend went 0-10 in promos and dropped from Plat 5 to Bronze 1. So far he's already climbed to Silver 3, but yeah.
Then he must have had cooperative teammates then. That's honestly more important than getting fed. I used to get 15+ kills a game on some champs in bronze and still lose.

What eventually got me to Silver in S4 was that a had 14 game streak where people listened to my calls, so won all 14. 12 with Shen, one with Naut jg and one with Lulu supp.

I might just go back to playing Shen and hoping my teammates will listen.
 

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Dude that guy sucks absolute ****, he has the mechanics of a slice of wheat bread. Just look at his KDA's and how much he dies, how many kills you get or how well you win lane doesnt mean ****, the only reason he wins at all is because he just focuses objectives and wards a lot, thats literally all you need to win until plat at the least.
 
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Dude that guy sucks absolute ****, he has the mechanics of a slice of wheat bread. Just look at his KDA's and how much he dies, how many kills you get or how well you win lane doesnt mean ****, the only reason he wins at all is because he just focuses objectives and wards a lot, thats literally all you need to win until plat at the least.
But how do you focus objectives if your team won't co operate? I had a Ziggs game where I was asking my team for literally 20 minutes to group mid and seige so we could win. They didn't listen and kept wandering off alone and getting picked off. Then our jungler thought pushing top past river was more important than contesting dragon at 40 minutes.

Lately I've been getting these types of teams a lot in Bronze. Silver is still bad but most of the time people will have more sense than that.
 
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