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It represents the male bias of female gamers!
Really? From the three games I've played with her so far, her Q seems to make trading in lane much more effective once you hit level two because you can just bounce from the bonus Q damage into the sheild and not really lose anything in the trade (whereas you'd lose the bonus ad/ap after switching from Q to W with old Sona), plus once you hit three you have a movement speed buff that can kind of work as an escape/engage whenever you really need it. She's still poke forever, except now you don't have to wait until you get power chord to do good damage if your adc is on board, so you're saving a lot more mana in the long run imo.
its supposed to. if it doesnt, thats a bug
Oh dear god. I kinda want the skin but this is somewhat 2lewd, even for Riot. I'm just surprised her spine isn't broken in this splash.![]()
Because Dre NEVER gives up, I understand where shaya is coming from, though i disagree,I think his raw utility is enough to hyper scale him even without being able to make usage of his passive reliably in teamfights, at the same time building him bruiser does generally allow him to.
can you rephrase this in a way that the melee master race can understand?
Basically circle camping us by running away
That was actually the counterargument for letting him in, it's like trying to debate a creationist on evolution or a r/atheism atheist on the historicity of jesusBeing obliviously stubborn must be one way to get the debate icon, I suppose.
This debater icon is a curse really. I've noticed that people who normally result to ad hominem insults when I disagree with them will mention the icon. It's as if when people see the debater icon they expect the debater to agree with everything they say because they think they're never wrong.Being obliviously stubborn must be one way to get the debate icon, I suppose.
This is what I'm talking about. Here you're saying that you won't accept that Naut can gank at higher elos because of my small sample size, but I gave you an example from All-Stars, which is literally the second highest level of play there is. I also noted that I've seen high elo players gank successfully early tons of times in soloque. You just ignored this and went back to Lee. Yes I understand that the larger point was about Lee's dominance, but it's still disingenuous of you to either not accept that he can gank, or to provide a rebuttal. By not responding to it, it comes across that you have no rebuttal but didn't want to admit that I was right.
If the Lee knows what hes doing, he should have a good chance at winning every singe match up in the jungle. And 99% of the time its more like a better chance rather than a good chance. He has so much dueling potential, so much clear speed, so much gank potential, so much damage, so much utility, so much mobility, so much pressure, so much presence, etc. Like, your champion might be better than Lee at one or two things, but the Lee should have the advantage in so many other areas that if he presses those advantages he does have correctly, Lee should rarely not come out on top.
Irrelevant because everyone knows how powerful and suffocating lee is in the pros
I did respond to it >_>, I said that allstars 2013 was a different meta which advantaged tank junglers a lot more early and your sample size in this meta is small, that I wasn't trying arguing that it was impossible merely that the power of his low leveled ganks was much lower. "Can't" is a rhetorical exaggeration, not a suggestion that it will NEVER happen because that's silly. Successful pre-6 red buff warwick ganks happen, it's just they're incredibly weak and unreliable so they're rare. In this meta however, the vast majority of the time it doesn't work pre-6. You bringing in all-stars 2013 is frankly disingenuous because it was a different meta and one which advantaged early tank junglers ganks a lot more.
I've never once resorted to insulting people and I've always tried to be civil in my approach, so it's probably that I disagree with people, then continue the argument. Normally that frustrates people if they disagree with the argument, because they perceive it as irrational.Irrelevant because everyone knows how powerful and suffocating lee is in the pros
But people get annoyed with you because of your attitude rather then your opinions.
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It doesn't influence your gameplay, why care.
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Sit down Ramses
1 word, trinkets. The increased availability of vison in this meta both increased the ganking power of junglers with alternative gank paths and increased the ganking power of bursty junglers. Lee is both and naut is neither therefore his ganks are substantially weaker then in allstars pre-6.
Why is that so surprising? Just look at how many things Lee's kit has, his slow's stronger, lasts longer, affected AS as well, and while it's got lower range (both for the tempest and the cripple application), it doesn't have travel time. His ult is just ridiculous as an engage, disengage, catch tool, Lee can protect other people on his team, lee has execute damage making him amazing at securing neutral objectives, and lee's still got decent damage against the backline lategame even when built tank. Yep naut's tankier, but really all he does better then lee is contribute more lockdown on a caught target and survive better, Lee just contributed more. Hell, he probably still contributes more.
I'm sure for some that's the case, but honestly the way you debate topics has been a frustration in literally every place it's come up. I mean this was literally exactly the discussion that came up in the debate hall about letting you in. You're extremely intelligent, which was why I supported you but your insane stubbornness makes discussion with you extremely trying.
Glad to know that you think choosing to deal with the former means I don't understand the difference between the former and the latter
#HBC | Red Ryu
To be fair, if dre wasn't so frustrating to argue with no one would be mean to him, so he sort of brings it on himself
