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Shaya

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Shaco loses badly to other melee dps.

But most other ranged carries don't out do him in damage.
Plus he has a built in slow...
plus deceive...

I've played against good shacos in top and mid before.... they may not farm so well... but they are ruining your day, either way.
 

fkacyan

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Shaco loses badly to other melee dps.

But most other ranged carries don't out do him in damage.
Plus he has a built in slow...
plus deceive...

I've played against good shacos in top and mid before.... they may not farm so well... but they are ruining your day, either way.
And then you ward your brush and he can't do anything in lane.

Laning him with is harder than with TDL in HoN against double ranged carries.
 

Wobbles

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I'm already kinda annoyed with ranked. I play this game to have fun and having people yell at me and flip out every time we're behind by a kill, or thinking "I'd like to play X" this game then being told NO YOU MUSTN'T it's like, "**** you I don't care."

So now I play Alistar in normals and **** with people. This is the Cash Cow build, for any interested:

Marks: Don't care
Seals: Don't care
Glyphs: Don't care
Quints: Gold per 5.

Don't forget your greed mastery!

First items: Sheen and Boots of Mobility. Not at all uncommon for a cow!

Next important items: Philosopher Stone, Avarice Blade, Heart of Gold. You are now up to 29 gold every 10 seconds.

Last slot is reserved for WARDS.

Philostone -> Shurelya's.
Blade -> Youmuu's.
HoG -> Randuin's.

First off, that's THREE items with CDR. In fact, you'll notice that all of the items built from the gp5 items get you cdr. Coincidence? Probably. But Alistar loves CDR!

(why avarice blade? Because critting off the sheen proc from activating your ultimate actually kind of hurts!)

I'd recommend you throw a Kage's in there somewhere but then you don't get room for WARDS. Which you need!

But what's important is that activating Youmuu's and Shurelya's together with Boots of Mobility and Ghost makes you REALLY ****ING FAST. And popping Randuin's in the middle of the enemy team after Pulverize basically turns you into a walking Rupture.

Youmuu's also helps you take towers! So if there's a 1k health tower somewhere that needs dropping and nobody feels like pushing, you're the cow to do it.

Early game: **** with people. Walk into their jungle and punch their jungler a lot. Headbutt him away from creeps and take the last hits. If he tries to fight you? Pulverize and scamper off. Ward his whole jungle. Then go gank mid while you're at it.

"They warded Dragon." No they didn't, because you bought an oracles at level 7 and now you're punching their wards to death. They want to get rid of that oracle? Good, because now they're all attacking the cow that prints money instead of the carry. And you were going to have enough for another one in about two minutes anyhow.

Here is where you need to be very careful not to do what I like to do: don't ninja last hits from your carries! As funny as it is to headbutt Irelia and make her disintegrate it's something you probably shouldn't be doing especially with such a stupid build so maybe those games where I have 8 kills as the Cow there's a reason I lose.
 

PhantomX

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I'm already kinda annoyed with ranked. I play this game to have fun and having people yell at me and flip out every time we're behind by a kill, or thinking "I'd like to play X" this game then being told NO YOU MUSTN'T it's like, "**** you I don't care."

So now I play Alistar in normals and **** with people. This is the Cash Cow build, for any interested:

Marks: Don't care
Seals: Don't care
Glyphs: Don't care
Quints: Gold per 5.

Don't forget your greed mastery!

First items: Sheen and Boots of Mobility. Not at all uncommon for a cow!

Next important items: Philosopher Stone, Avarice Blade, Heart of Gold. You are now up to 29 gold every 10 seconds.

Last slot is reserved for WARDS.

Philostone -> Shurelya's.
Blade -> Youmuu's.
HoG -> Randuin's.

First off, that's THREE items with CDR. In fact, you'll notice that all of the items built from the gp5 items get you cdr. Coincidence? Probably. But Alistar loves CDR!

(why avarice blade? Because critting off the sheen proc from activating your ultimate actually kind of hurts!)

I'd recommend you throw a Kage's in there somewhere but then you don't get room for WARDS. Which you need!

But what's important is that activating Youmuu's and Shurelya's together with Boots of Mobility and Ghost makes you REALLY ****ING FAST. And popping Randuin's in the middle of the enemy team after Pulverize basically turns you into a walking Rupture.

Youmuu's also helps you take towers! So if there's a 1k health tower somewhere that needs dropping and nobody feels like pushing, you're the cow to do it.

Early game: **** with people. Walk into their jungle and punch their jungler a lot. Headbutt him away from creeps and take the last hits. If he tries to fight you? Pulverize and scamper off. Ward his whole jungle. Then go gank mid while you're at it.

"They warded Dragon." No they didn't, because you bought an oracles at level 7 and now you're punching their wards to death. They want to get rid of that oracle? Good, because now they're all attacking the cow that prints money instead of the carry. And you were going to have enough for another one in about two minutes anyhow.

Here is where you need to be very careful not to do what I like to do: don't ninja last hits from your carries! As funny as it is to headbutt Irelia and make her disintegrate it's something you probably shouldn't be doing especially with such a stupid build so maybe those games where I have 8 kills as the Cow there's a reason I lose.
Naturally this means you gotta start playing normals with us instead of stressing over ranked, which is what a lot of us do.
 

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Naturally this means you gotta start playing normals with us instead of stressing over ranked, which is what a lot of us do.
Normals are stressful too though; I'm always afraid to play with people because I occasionally do bad things, and then I end up places like the "Bad Kids" list :( Meh, Wobblez is probably better than me anyways...
 

Zolga Owns

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lol Nidalee is so much fun. I carried a 4v5 and won with her. 13/2/14 or something :D
What a way to buy Xin Zhao :)

I can't believe how underestimated she is...my team was like "****, a Nidalee. GG." Then we had a leaver 5 mins in and I was like "Listen to me and we'll win." I kept myself at low health to bait their entire team into our jungle(they had a warwick) and then Maokai initiated and our Fiddles ulted into them. Then after I healed up quick from Primal Surge I Cougar'ed in and got a triple kill. :D So much funnnn
 

PhantomX

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Normals are stressful too though; I'm always afraid to play with people because I occasionally do bad things, and then I end up places like the "Bad Kids" list :( Meh, Wobblez is probably better than me anyways...
Losing a long game like that is kind of stressful and disappointing, which is why he's lashing out. Mistakes happen, and late game all it takes is one of them to lose it for the team.

You probably should establish if people are playing to win or if they're doing whatever before trying to fill a role you're not comfortable with next time, out of courtesy.
 

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Losing a long game like that is kind of stressful and disappointing, which is why he's lashing out. Mistakes happen, and late game all it takes is one of them to lose it for the team.

You probably should establish if people are playing to win or if they're doing whatever before trying to fill a role you're not comfortable with next time, out of courtesy.
Well I mean I didn't outright choose it, people told me to do it. I'll speak up more next time though, if there ever would be one
 

fkacyan

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Getting mad over normals isn't worth it, ever. Ever!

Ranked, sure, when people like like morons it blows. Like that Gragas who got mad that I never followed him when he overextended and got ganked by four people, and then AFKd. That's bull****. But somebody does that in a normal?

ITS TIME TO HARD CARRY.
 

Evanms

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I'm trying to get all the tanks so far i Have:
Shen
Rammus
Singed
Alistar
Mummy
Garen

Who should i get next? Tree, Galio, or taric? I never really thought of taric as straight tank more support.
 

john!

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depends on who you consider a "tank", there are some who say that there are only 4 or 5 true tanks in the game. i don't think taric counts as a tank, and cho'gath is questionable too (although he's really good, found that out this week :p)
 

Wobbles

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I am now composing the danceling tier list.

For those of you who don't know, Danceling is when you cancel your Dance (Dancel!) by typing /d repeatedly to do the initial part of your dance for comedic effect!

Currently and inarguably tier 1 belongs to Shaco and Urgot. If you disagree, you are wrong!
 

Wobbles

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So apparently if you d/c:

--The enemy nexus will appear at 1/4 health even if it's actually at full
--Enemies will not appear on your screen
--You will start attacking the Nexus and wonder wtf is damaging you
--Your team will die around you and confuse the hell out of you
 

Frolossus

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So apparently if you d/c:

--The enemy nexus will appear at 1/4 health even if it's actually at full
--Enemies will not appear on your screen
--You will start attacking the Nexus and wonder wtf is damaging you
--Your team will die around you and confuse the hell out of you
sometimes you are perma-dead
 

Wobbles

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"let's have a fun non try-hard in-house!"

*"ban Urgot and Alistar, the two champions that Wobbles enjoys playing.*

*ban them -specifically- because they know Wobbles likes playing them*

:/

So I played Tristana and farmed for 20 minutes until we surrendered.

Fun game?
 

M3D

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not gonna lie, draft mode inhouse sucked

"let's have a fun non try-hard in-house!"

*"ban Urgot and Alistar, the two champions that Wobbles enjoys playing.*

*ban them -specifically- because they know Wobbles likes playing them*

:/

So I played Tristana and farmed for 20 minutes until we surrendered.

Fun game?

I was actually specifically told in chat to make it draft mode and we could tryhard. I was never told that it should be fun mode. Sorry if you were upset.

We looked at your team and you were the only one that really scared us. We certainly didn't want anyone to fight your Urgot and you made such a big deal about Cow that it was a must-ban. We figured that leaving other people's main champs open would hurt us a bit though and then you guys didn't really make good picks. Like, Fro could have easily gone Katarina and Evan could have played one of the tanks he plays. In fact, we left Rammus wide open for him to take and instead he went singed and left it for Dan. And then Zolga picked Cass... so like... yeah... it was gonna be a faceroll.

We can funhard the next time.
 

Tom

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I was actually specifically told in chat to make it draft mode and we could tryhard. I was never told that it should be fun mode. Sorry if you were upset.

We looked at your team and you were the only one that really scared us. We certainly didn't want anyone to fight your Urgot and you made such a big deal about Cow that it was a must-ban. We figured that leaving other people's main champs open would hurt us a bit though and then you guys didn't really make good picks. Like, Fro could have easily gone Katarina and Evan could have played one of the tanks he plays. In fact, we left Rammus wide open for him to take and instead he went singed and left it for Dan. And then Zolga picked Cass... so like... yeah... it was gonna be a faceroll.

We can funhard the next time.
lol of course odin was on the tryhard team in a fun game
 

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I was actually specifically told in chat to make it draft mode and we could tryhard. I was never told that it should be fun mode. Sorry if you were upset.

We looked at your team and you were the only one that really scared us. We certainly didn't want anyone to fight your Urgot and you made such a big deal about Cow that it was a must-ban. We figured that leaving other people's main champs open would hurt us a bit though and then you guys didn't really make good picks. Like, Fro could have easily gone Katarina and Evan could have played one of the tanks he plays. In fact, we left Rammus wide open for him to take and instead he went singed and left it for Dan. And then Zolga picked Cass... so like... yeah... it was gonna be a faceroll.

We can funhard the next time.
i feel like the problem was simply banning/picking each others champs though, i mean sure i could have gone kat but then someone would grab annie
it would be interesting to try if everyone picked their mains though
 

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About the inhouse...

-You guys have to pick up more champions. The bans were logical and something you should expect in tourney/ranked play. You ban according to what the team's strengths are.
-You also gave us rammus shen ashe, that's instant lose.
-After shen was picked rammus janna taric zilean irelia were all open and extremely good picks.
-Your team had two AP carries(Annie,Cass). Cass is really difficult to play Zolga and is countered by Kassadin. Four of you were magic damage with trist being the only AD. Stack MR and win.
-In the level one fight you had your stun up Fro, you should have W'd then backed up.
-Your team must have a CV, if you had a CV then PX would not have facechecked the bush.
-Malphite is not a good jungler -> take golem and he's hurt by a lot.
-You had 3 solos, annie cass and trist. This doesn't work :\
-Everyone picking their mains is not realistic
 

Wobbles

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My Alistar sucks bro. Look at my build. I make money by running in circles and playing like an idiot. I was just happy I had a champ that I could troll with and enjoy. My win rate with him is about 1/5 games because I KS with headbutt.

I mean I guess it doesn't matter? I just only like to play a few champs and it sucks when people go out of their way to prevent me from playing them.

jpak:

Well yeah see, the two teams went in with different expectations. You picked ultra-tryhard rapeface comp, and we picked "hey I feel like playing etc." And you banned my ****ty Alistar too so not only did I not get to play my best champ, I didn't get to play my fun one either. So I lost in every respect. This is kind of why I reject smasher invitations to play, I don't get to win and I don't get to enjoy myself either.
 

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My Alistar sucks bro. Look at my build. I make money by running in circles and playing like an idiot. I was just happy I had a champ that I could troll with and enjoy. My win rate with him is about 1/5 games because I KS with headbutt.

I mean I guess it doesn't matter? I just only like to play a few champs and it sucks when people go out of their way to prevent me from playing them.

jpak:

Well yeah see, the two teams went in with different expectations. You picked ultra-tryhard rapeface comp, and we picked "hey I feel like playing etc." And you banned my ****ty Alistar too so not only did I not get to play my best champ, I didn't get to play my fun one either. So I lost in every respect. This is kind of why I reject smasher invitations to play, I don't get to win and I don't get to enjoy myself either.
I'll never take away your fun <3

Also, SMYM yes or no for you guys?
 

Teh Brettster

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http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=544778
Step 1) Make IP gain by time, but make sure everyone gets less of it without saying so.
Step 2) Say longer games are problems and try to adjust game time to be shorter, thereby indirectly decreasing global IP gain per match.
Step 3) GG, Riot.

I doubt it will do that much though. Whatever.
Anyway, I'm really liking the 20% armor pen on the turrets. I'm ready to stop seeing solo lane Malphite and dumb crap like that dominate everything so hard.
 
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