T3h Albino
Smash Master
Best secondaries are Mk,Marth,Ic's,GnW,Kirby,Wario, and pikachu
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UliuLi
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vgKCpyvFRs
pretty old Tp5 old its friendly 2VS2
pretty old Tp5 old its friendly 2VS2
ZTD | TECHnology
Developing New TECHnology
If grabs are illegal 
Coney
Smash Master
if infinites AND SMALL-STEPS are illegal it's like 6-4, maybe 55-45
people still just have outdated opinions on the MU
dk's sooooooooooo stroooooooooooooooooong
people still just have outdated opinions on the MU
dk's sooooooooooo stroooooooooooooooooong
Zwarm
Smash Hero
Pretty much what Coney said, I usually go close to even whenever I play Ook.
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Yep agreed too. 60:40 or maybe 55:45 Us.
Enzo
Smash Lord
Everytime i keep CGing peach or marth i get to do like 4 grabs ish but then they just keep jabbing me
Fizzle_Boy
Smash Ace
You're doing it wrong. You either need to dash sooner, grab later, or just shield cancel the whole thing (recommended). If you don't know what that means, dash>shield>grab. Standing grabs have more range than dash grabs (and D3 doesn't tumble across the floor if he misses).
Coney
Smash Master
if you know someone's going to jab you out of a CG and you keep messing up, just fsmash them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbKkp1DjrcM#t=2m10s
oh yes
since peach's is faster she might be able to powershield but that's if she doesn't panic. even if she shields it...lol it's peach, she won't kill you anyway and it'll scare her from doing it anymore
EDIT - didn't see marth there...if a marth is jabbing you out of CG something terrible is going wrong, just shield the jab and grab after. if he's upb'ing, either get the timing down (preferred) or start bthrowing (the non-technical coney way)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbKkp1DjrcM#t=2m10s
oh yes
since peach's is faster she might be able to powershield but that's if she doesn't panic. even if she shields it...lol it's peach, she won't kill you anyway and it'll scare her from doing it anymore
EDIT - didn't see marth there...if a marth is jabbing you out of CG something terrible is going wrong, just shield the jab and grab after. if he's upb'ing, either get the timing down (preferred) or start bthrowing (the non-technical coney way)
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no he cannot, hes just not programmed to allow him a slide out of glide tossing either. He cant dacus but he gets a small slide out of a JC usmash tho.
His basic pivot grab tho does have a small slide.
standing grab
pivot grab
His basic pivot grab tho does have a small slide.
standing grab
pivot grab
MysteryRevengerson
IT'S A MYSTERY TO ALL
Questions answered, so uh, nevermind.
Lovecraft
Smash Apprentice
Hi, little new to my Dedede main, and was hoping someone can help me with the Rob matchup. Problem I keep having is I can't seem to get a good grab on him and he's a heavy camper. Should I not worry so much bout CGing and try more Bairs and Dairs? Or should I try to approach?
DZLE
Smash Master
Shoutout to Commander Beef
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
DZLE!!! My good buddy...
And Birdman, the ROB matchup has been discussed many times over.... Just play smart man.
And Birdman, the ROB matchup has been discussed many times over.... Just play smart man.
Tekk
Smash Lord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euq7ULJ_Ey8
Hey guys
I'm back to Brawl (I think)
Any advices based on this match please ?
Hey guys
I'm back to Brawl (I think)
Any advices based on this match please ?
Coney
Smash Master
grab
a lot
a lot
Commander_Beef
Smash Champion
Good luck with that goal. It takes much more than just that against Olimar. Grabbing is near universal for us when up close.
If I ever give myself the time, I'll give a proper solution later on.
If I ever give myself the time, I'll give a proper solution later on.
MiniTroika
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If you want to beat Olimar you don't use DDD.
Coney
Smash Master
hey guys... with DDD. You can basicallyy grab everything you powersheild.. correct?
Also... when DDD is at perfect grab range, other characters are just out of grab range correct? This makes their only options:
1.Attack
2.Spotdodge
Which can all be grabbed... correct?
lol if im incorrect plz correct me. thanks
Also... when DDD is at perfect grab range, other characters are just out of grab range correct? This makes their only options:
1.Attack
2.Spotdodge
Which can all be grabbed... correct?
lol if im incorrect plz correct me. thanks
dean.
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If we shield a poorly spaced G&W turtle... is it best to grab after the 5th hit or the landing hit?
Lost to a G&W last tourney and ended up 7th. I know it's not too bad a matchup for Dedede but I'm more used to playing Marth v G&W and up-Bing when he turtles my shield. Thanks.
Lost to a G&W last tourney and ended up 7th. I know it's not too bad a matchup for Dedede but I'm more used to playing Marth v G&W and up-Bing when he turtles my shield. Thanks.
ZTD | TECHnology
Developing New TECHnology
DDD/GW is like even. Arguably slightly in GWs favor but eh.
I always just try to shield grab after the last hit or wait to see what they would do as a follow up. Sometimes it puts you in a better position to just wait since the turtle is nearly unpunishable if they space it correctly. You just have to be VERY patient in this MU. That often means resetting the situation.
My question to you guys:
Which style of DDD do you guys relate better to:
Junk: Technical and precise.
Atomsk: Overall balanced and smart.
Coney: Unconventional and free-flowing?
Just curious. I see my DDD being heavilt influenced by Coney's style tbh.
I always just try to shield grab after the last hit or wait to see what they would do as a follow up. Sometimes it puts you in a better position to just wait since the turtle is nearly unpunishable if they space it correctly. You just have to be VERY patient in this MU. That often means resetting the situation.
My question to you guys:
Which style of DDD do you guys relate better to:
Junk: Technical and precise.
Atomsk: Overall balanced and smart.
Coney: Unconventional and free-flowing?
Just curious. I see my DDD being heavilt influenced by Coney's style tbh.
That's a good question.
I think I'm most influenced by Atomsk's style, because I play patient and wait for openings, with a lot of ground game. However, I have a bit of unconventionality as well, and have been picking up a lot more of that free-flowing style recently for some reason.
I'd say right now it's somewhere between the two. More of a smart, very reactive, and punishment focused mindset.
I think I'm most influenced by Atomsk's style, because I play patient and wait for openings, with a lot of ground game. However, I have a bit of unconventionality as well, and have been picking up a lot more of that free-flowing style recently for some reason.
I'd say right now it's somewhere between the two. More of a smart, very reactive, and punishment focused mindset.
dean.
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Smexy D3. I liked Waddle Doo electricity > fsmash in game 3 :3
Is D3 considered a good doubles character? I'm tossing up between Marth and D3... I usually stock tank with Marth anyway so I'm inclined to go D3 as he's better at it but interested to hear some opinions.
Is D3 considered a good doubles character? I'm tossing up between Marth and D3... I usually stock tank with Marth anyway so I'm inclined to go D3 as he's better at it but interested to hear some opinions.
ZTD | TECHnology
Developing New TECHnology
I feel thats where I'm at also but I kind of lean a little more towards the "Coney" style. Though I play a reactive and ground based game as well.
@Pezza: D3 makes a great doubles partner in my opinion. He plays the support role really well and makes a prime choice as a stock tank. If your partner is more assertive/good at getting the kills then D3 would make a great teammate there. D3 is my preferred doubles character because of these traits. I'm pretty defensive so it makes holding stock easy. And his D-Throw is excellent for starting combos. If you can play the support role go for it.
dean.
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Thank you for that answer TC. My usual partners usually do get most of the kills; it's not unusual for the end numbers to be 2 KOs to me/4 to them or 1 to me/5 to them. But I imagine that Dedede would be trying to stay out of the fray a bit, keeping it to 1-on-1s until an oppotunity to support his partner arises? His large frame and natural tendency to get juggled/comboed lead me to think this. That would be his main issue.
Finished watching Laem's matches. LOL double up-b spike too good.
Finished watching Laem's matches. LOL double up-b spike too good.
ZTD | TECHnology
Developing New TECHnology
No problem and:
Yes, you generally want to avoid being in the middle because it is very easy for us to get hit being such a large target. Know when to get involved to help your teammate but know when to spot a bad situation for you and how to get out. And being in communication with your teammate is especially important since in D3s case you can easy eat a lot of damage.
D3's main issues in doubles are being a huge target and his ability to land kills. He has good kills moves but landing them by himself like in singles can be troublesome. I usually find myself with less kills than my partner.
Yes, you generally want to avoid being in the middle because it is very easy for us to get hit being such a large target. Know when to get involved to help your teammate but know when to spot a bad situation for you and how to get out. And being in communication with your teammate is especially important since in D3s case you can easy eat a lot of damage.
D3's main issues in doubles are being a huge target and his ability to land kills. He has good kills moves but landing them by himself like in singles can be troublesome. I usually find myself with less kills than my partner.
I find that a lot of times, my partners can trap opponents into bad situations and I can stay close and read a spot code or roll or something for an easy kill. That's how I get many of my kills in doubles with D3. Watch as your partner limits options, and cover the ones that are open.
He's a very good character in doubles, and I find that playing defensively with most partners is best. You HAVE to not take damage. That is KEY. My best double results came from teaming with an extremely aggro mk player who I ALWAYS let lead. Then, I supported by keeping stocks and punishing people who tried to punish him, giving a ton of damage, conserving my stocks, and protecting my partner all at the same time. I feel that's when he's at his best.
He's a very good character in doubles, and I find that playing defensively with most partners is best. You HAVE to not take damage. That is KEY. My best double results came from teaming with an extremely aggro mk player who I ALWAYS let lead. Then, I supported by keeping stocks and punishing people who tried to punish him, giving a ton of damage, conserving my stocks, and protecting my partner all at the same time. I feel that's when he's at his best.